Star Trek Online: Here We Go Again!

[01101010]

I'm in this boat too. Now I'm worried that during WWIII not owning a PS3 is proof of disloyalty, or at the very least a case for being stripped of all my possessions and being placed in some kind of slave caste.

Another measure of my poverty. I don't own a PS3 and probably won't. Slave caste is closer to the truth than I care to think about at this point.

[Nebu]

Another measure of my poverty. I don't own a PS3 and probably won't. Slave caste is closer to the truth than I care to think about at this point.

I don't own a PS3 or X360 and have a 27" crt for a television.  I'm fairly certain that's enough to get me a ban from this site.  Come to think of it, I think they keep me around for free medical advice. 

[Rasix]

We need a certain amount of old people for street cred.   You do own a PS2 if I remember correctly; that also gets you in the door.

[Murgos]

Yes, it's fun, at least for now. I'm currently Commander 3 (level 23 out of 45 total) and I am the most casual player alive.

You aren't as casual as you think.  I know a guy who plays what he considers a crap load, usually every day and maybe 6 days a week, has owned the game since day 1 and is a Lt. 10.

I'm just saying that hard core MMO'ers can't play 'casual' even when they think they are being totally chillax.

e: The point of my question before and asking for 'Yes or No' was because of all the responses NO ONE has had an unqualified yes.  I didn't ask if it was perfect, just regular old fun and no one feels comfortable with, "Yeah, it's fun".

[Stormwaltz]

I'm currently Commander 3 (level 23 out of 45 total) and I am the most casual player alive

Ah, but you're not, good sir. I'm a mere Lieutenant Commander 2.

Of course, I did take the weekend off from games to sleep and watch Gundam 00...

[Jayce]

Another measure of my poverty. I don't own a PS3 and probably won't. Slave caste is closer to the truth than I care to think about at this point.

I don't own a PS3 or X360 and have a 27" crt for a television.  I'm fairly certain that's enough to get me a ban from this site.  Come to think of it, I think they keep me around for free medical advice. 

Casting my lot in here.  The last console I owned was an xBox (vanilla) and I only recently updated from my 19" TV I bought 10 years ago (to a 30", so really not the biggest thing around even still).

[Jherad]

The point of my question before and asking for 'Yes or No' was because of all the responses NO ONE has had an unqualified yes.  I didn't ask if it was perfect, just regular old fun and no one feels comfortable with, "Yeah, it's fun".

For me, right now, yeah it's fun.

We're talking about a MMO though, in a forum of cynics. 'Right now' doesn't mean much, as I don't know if people are satisfied with 'for maybe a month or two' as a qualifier. Given that some people here enjoy games that make my lips curl, 'Fun' probably doesn't either.

I'm having fun, thus the game is fun. I'll almost certainly be done soon. Much could be vastly improved.

No PS3 here either, and I haven't used my 360 in a good while (since I bought a new PC). Then again, I don't watch TV. At all.

[Shatter]

I have a few friends who started playing at head start (what 2 weeks?) and they had fun.  Those same friends have since all cancelled and are done with it.  *shrugs* 

[Surlyboi]

I started playing at head star, I'm still playing. It's fun when the servers stay up and when you're playing the storyline missions. The rest? Not so unpalatable that I'll stop playing any time in the next couple of weeks or so.

[LC]

For all the times you all make fun of me for recommending movies and single-player games, all I have to do is come into this forum and lick the hypocrisy.

It tastes like Strawberry.

Kindly point me to where I recommended this game for YOU, Mister "I hate every game that is not a roguelike in some fashion and haven't played MMOs in 12 years".

That's not entirely true. I played the megami tensei mmo with schild not long ago.

[Modern Angel]

Here, unqualified yes. It's fun. Yes.

[UnSub]

It's fun enough. It's casual and highly instanced, so if that's your thing, you'll have fun.

[GenVec]

How's the PVP at Tier 3 or 4? I'm in T2 right now and really need some incentive to keep grinding the same battlegrounds with my Klingon.

[Surlyboi]

T4, T5 PVP is highly slanted in Klingon favor. They've got carriers that throw bunches of fighters out at you. Now, it would be cool if it was only one or two of them at a time instead of, ALL of them.

[Furiously]

What seems really odd to me is that they made the iconic ships the t4 ships and then made totally ugly ships the next rank up.

[Surlyboi]

Actually, I like the T5 fed ships.

While the Galaxy, Defiant and Intrepid classes may have all represented the different Next Gen shows, they were all sort of long in the tooth by the end of those series' runs and certainly by the era the game takes place in. Besides, Tier 5 has the Sovereign class, which was an Enterprise I liked a helluva lot more than I liked the Galaxy.

[Mrbloodworth]

Ground combat feels like a broken version of Tabula Rasa, something you fight through between space battles.

About the only thing I can credit STO's ground combat with is being an accurate depiction of the incredibly stupid infantry tactics seen in the TV series. "Let's crouch on opposite ends of the room without taking cover and exchange pistol fire for five minutes."

That's actually a really good point. Even the retarded jog/trot from the shows is emulated here. It certainly does fit the IP, so is a faithful brand extension  

Yes, but that 5 minutes is not them taking fire (hits) the whole time.

[Surlyboi]

We gots shield, mang!

[Ghambit]

After I heard about Klingon carriers I was much compelled to start playing one.  But man, the odds are so stacked against them most of the game - which is kinda cool I guess.
Honestly, if I had a good group of hardcore gamers with tac. skills and good teamplay I'd definitely start an intimate Klingon fleet.  It's definitely a fun part of the game, even w/o PvE.

[Draegan]

How does the Klingon gameplay work?  Do you just show up in instances and fighting people PVE'ing?  Or is it all battlegrounds?

[GenVec]

It's all battlegrounds, all the time.

The only saving virtue is that if the feds don't have their shit together you steamroll them... every time. Thank Kahless for cloaking.

[UnSub]

Does PvP still give buckets load more XP and loot than PvE?

[Ghambit]

Buddy keys are now active  
Let the begging begin....

(i will give mine out, but only if you join the fleet)
Btw, why come there no Bat Country?

[Xurtan]

Does PvP still give buckets load more XP and loot than PvE?

No idea on loot, but XP sure seems faster from PvP than anything else.

[Evildrider]

Buddy keys are now active  
Let the begging begin....

(i will give mine out, but only if you join the fleet)
Btw, why come there no Bat Country?

/beg   

[Surlyboi]

I've got a couple to drop too, PM me if Ghambit runs out.

[Stormwaltz]

The requirement to be grouped when starting a fleet prevents my usual gang of casual players from coming together. We can't get enough people on at the same time.

Is there a Fleet13 I could join?

EDIT: Note to Cryptic, fix that absurd requirement plz. K, thx.

[Rishathra]

I also have a few keys if anyone wants them.

[Ghambit]

The requirement to be grouped when starting a fleet prevents my usual gang of casual players from coming together. We can't get enough people on at the same time.

Is there a Fleet13 I could join?

EDIT: Note to Cryptic, fix that absurd requirement plz. K, thx.

No, but you and your friends can join mine if you'd like.  It's small and casual.  Just vent and a usergroup.  Hit up "The Founders."

and wtf, they only give out one buddy key?

[01101010]

and wtf, they only give out one buddy key?

 

what are the limits on the buddy part?

[Daeven]

My thoughts so far:

I'm having fun. But I'm and oooold time Star Fleet Battles player (back in the Dark Ages of Regan and Glam Hair Rock) so, take my enjoyment with the appropriate grain of 'yeah, but he's a crazy fuck'.  It's the best implementation of the online portion of Star Fleet Command 2 since that game exploded.

The 'plot' missions peg the tone of TOS.

The random stuff is diverse enough that it hasn't struck me as repetitive (yet)

Wishes:
PVP is amusing, but it could definitely use another layer of meaning. The game seems set up for Realm vs Realm, but apparently Mythic has a patent on the concept.  It would be nice if the space and ground "arenas" meant something more than experience.

The Gorn Hegemony are now Klingons? *grump* Where's my Gorn MCC? Damn you!  - it would be nice if there were more 'races' / ship types that the two current ones. The first time you eat Romulan enveloping Plasma torp is… memorable.

The UI needs better filtering parameters. And more explanations as to how things work. Associating new Bridge crew with positions and how to level them, and how to take advantage of their new skills through the appropriate consoles is… well, not explained at all really.

And how come I can't filter by 'class-type' doodads in the Exchange?

And what the hell does the feat +0.1 Ship Weapon Accuracy during character generation mean anyway?? Blergh.

Finally, Gold Farmer Spammers Must Die.

Summary: I'm having fun and I can see it holding my attention for a few months at least. But it definitely needs some tweaking.

[Stormwaltz]

Cryptic considers making a bold step backwards in STO's accessibility and casual-friendliness.

And I laughed when you guys said that they wanted STO to fail.

The only reason I try PvP and raid content in STO is because if I get ganked or die horribly, I just wait a few seconds to respawn.

[Daeven]

Well. That would shitcan the game for me anyway.

[GenVec]

While I hate to be the lone dissenting voice, giving a "no-respawn pvp" option might be just what the game needs. The fights are going to be a hell of a lot more gripping if you don't spawn back in five seconds after you die.

[UnSub]

Seriously, if they didn't get the penalty in before the end of beta, it should stay out.

The no-respawn PvP option sounds acceptable though.