Classes

[Mrbloodworth]

Necromancers are rolling death squads that only increase in power as more things die (not joking, i had 9 Things/pets out last night at level 26. 2-3 Frozen hates, and like 4 skull-guys). Theyt are also the hardest clases to play due to squisheyness and the fact that everyone knows kill him, kill the pets. I have found they are more of a support class. But i can hold my own VS. any other class if i am smart, or they are dumb. Other than that, Necromancers love large groups of mobs...love'm.
Please group up while PvPing a Necromancer please 

Best implementation of a necromancer i have played to date. And i have played a lot.

That sounds interesting.  Do you end up using a variety of spells or tactics in battle?  I'm tempted to play one but scared of the "1-2-3 repeat" playstyle.

Depends on what i am doing, and whats around me. So, i guess, yes? Be warned, its not an easy class to play, and in PvP, that goes even more so. Be not afraid to die.

Then again, i did hold the record for most deaths on my old Eq2 server, i think i was like in the top 40. But thats because i will toss myself at something, just to see if i can.

[Nerf]

I grouped with a HoX last night that pulled off a 9k crit using one of talents.

Flame lance or somesuch IIRC.

[Morfiend]

I grouped with a HoX last night that pulled off a 9k crit using one of talents.

Flame lance or somesuch IIRC.

Fire Lance, yeah, its like the HoX one really good ability right now, that pretty much all specs include. The problem being its a 5 combo chain, so its pretty hard to hit someone with it in PVP.

[Dtrain]

I'm not so sure I'm digging on Assassin at this point (mid-20s.) He feels like a class that needs a group to be effective (and so far I'm not seeing a lot of incentive to group.)

I really only feel confident fighting 2 enemies while solo, and even then I get squished pretty hard sometimes. My DPS is high, so they die at about the time I start getting dangerously low on health.

The few times that I have grouped it let us take on more tougher monsters, and I felt that my DPS was winning most of those fights with high direct damage and decent DOTs.

[Nerf]

I'm still enjoying it at 45, soloing can get a bit hairy if you pull more than 2, but duoing with a PoM is just fucking amazing, the squishiness goes away and the raping goes into overdrive.

[Hawkbit]

I've been happy with how my Guardian is playing (even if aspects of the game make me pissy).  I'm entirely sword and board, leveling with my feats mostly centered around doing dps.  As I near the 70-80 mark I'll respec into a pure tank build for guild use and abuse as I can. 

I'm constantly amazed with how much I can handle.  At lvl34, I can handle 3 of the "Ymir Destroyer" elite mobs.  Takes me five minutes to kill them, but my absorption is outstanding.  Also at lvl34, I solo'd the outflow quests under Tarantia.  Often I'd have 4-5 lvl35s on me, but still scrape through.  I can't wait to see full plate. 

I'd wager I level slower than most classes because I can't dps as well, but I'm ok with it.

[Lantyssa]

My Dark Templar hit 20 tonight.  It was a little slow going at first, but now that I have some abilities it's starting to be lots of fun.

[Logik]

I grouped with a HoX last night that pulled off a 9k crit using one of talents.

Flame lance or somesuch IIRC.

Fire Lance, yeah, its like the HoX one really good ability right now, that pretty much all specs include. The problem being its a 5 combo chain, so its pretty hard to hit someone with it in PVP.

Unless I'm mistaken, you only need to hit with the very last swing of the combo for it to connect.

DISCLAIMER: All that follows is my interpretation from several days of being apprenticed into the mid-60s with abilities equivalent to mid-to-upper 40s.  I'm guessing things improve as ability ranks scale.

I'm playing a HoX right now (49) and I can tell you that group PvP is largely a bitch.  I get to blow my big 3 minute cooldown (the lance) by getting CC'd and losing the combo.  After that, I get to run through my stam bar trying to hit some jackass that just keeps running in circles (I think I've managed to hit one person with Body and Spirit Wrack) or gets massively healed (think: bear shaman, ToS, PoM).  All the while, someone's calling targets in vent and I'm stuck tabbing through a million goddamn pets and cyclones--because with all the effects on the screen, it's impossible to see shit.  Eventually, someone takes notice and I get wrecked.

Okay, I'm sure that sounds a little vitriolic, but the point I'm driving at is this: life as a paper-tiger melee in a game dominated by crowd control and healing largely blows.  I'm sure many melee classes can say the same thing--especially assassins, since they can't re-stealth if anyone in the group is currently in combat  .  On the upside, it looks like this latest patch fixed the cyclone/totem spam, so at least things are a little less cheesy.

[Velorath]

I have a love/hate thing going with my Ranger.  After throwing some cash into redoing my feats a couple times, I've settled on a X-bow heavy spec with a stance that adds a good sized chance to knock back the enemy with each shot (though I hear it only rarely knocks back in PVP).  I can take around two or three mobs of even level at a time, but I can't say it's a really fun class to play.

Part of the problem (and I'm sure this is probably true for most of the classes) is that new combos and abilities really seem to dry up in 20-40 level range.

[schild]

Depends on the class. My assassin got more vicious, but my ranger gets less abilities.

[Falconeer]

Playing a Tempest of Set. Currently level 19, just left Tortage.

This far it has felt like a punishment for something I did in a former life. Not necessarily hard, but very very monotone. The utility spells have no real purpose unless you urge to make things complicated. Will update if they give me a break.

I don't know what to say. I am a lev 51 Tempest of Set and I never felt any kind of monotnoy other than in the first 10 - 15 levels. The class gets new tricks as it grows, and you can get more of it with feats. Totems, stuns, roots, aoe, damage shields, procs. Even pets later on. I really don't know what were you looking for but I'd say you are playing the class wrong. Plus we can use crossbows, shields, polearms meaning we can dish out a good melee beating too. It's the most interesting hybrid spellcasting class I've ever played in a MMORPG. Ever.

Did I mention that you have to be a smart healer now, using positioning and hoping your party keeps the formation tight? And I am talking about PVP here. Gone are the days when you just stood somewhere behind the lines clicking names on the group window and spamming heals on the dying ones.

[lac]

Demonologists can one shot mobs?
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[schild]

Playing a Tempest of Set. Currently level 19, just left Tortage.

This far it has felt like a punishment for something I did in a former life. Not necessarily hard, but very very monotone. The utility spells have no real purpose unless you urge to make things complicated. Will update if they give me a break.

I don't know what to say. I am a lev 51 Tempest of Set and I never felt any kind of monotnoy other than in the first 10 - 15 levels.

He says he's level 19. You say it's boring for the first 10 to 15 levels. Are you sure it wasn't the first 20 levels. In other words, it's entirely reasonable that your post only confirmed his feelings. In fact, it did. ^_^

[Falconeer]

Uh oh.

Erm... well... right... then keep on! Things will get better 

[Tarami]

Erm... well... right... then keep on! Things will get better 

I will then, but I was hoping for some elegance also in the early game.

I kind of like the concept for healing however. But I liked clicking green bars too. I did it for years.

[KallDrexx]

Demonologists can one shot mobs?
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More proof
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xFB8hM0FzoI

[Numtini]

I think a lot of that is that if you play a melee class, you need to learn how the shield thing and combos work so they want to give you some time before they drop too much on you. You don't get that with a caster, it's the same old click the smite button as every other game.

It's probably also a remnant of the "play solo until 20 and then start characters at 20" thing that seems to have been dropped.

[Miasma]

Demonologists can one shot mobs?
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More proof
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xFB8hM0FzoI

That was the exploit they took the servers down for four hours to fix a couple days ago.

[apocrypha]

You guys made me buy this game! 

Got a level 12 assassin now, enjoying her (yes, I made a girly... I decided if I was going to look at a bum for many hours it might as well not be a big hairy male one...) a lot, once I worked out how to use stealth - I've been 1-shotting some mobs a couple of levels lower than me which is cool :p

She does feel a bit squishy sometimes though but I'm putting that down to my own inexperience - sometimes I take on 2 mobs my level and omgbbq them... sometimes they omgbbq me 

Enjoying the class and the game though :)

[Special J]

17th Herald of Xotli here.

If find I've been ignoring Flame Breath and doing nearly all my damage through combos; it just seems ineffective next my 2H-sword.  Was loading up on all these mana items until I realized I hardly use any mana.

They're pretty squishy but I can handle multiple mobs if I unload my biggest combo right away.  Ranged casters supporting a couple melees give me trouble though.

[Jamiko]

I played an Assassin and a Barbarian up to 10 or so and they mostly played the same to me, except the Assassin died easier.

What are the big differences between the two later on? Are there some defining skills or abilities to really separate them?

[KallDrexx]

If find I've been ignoring Flame Breath and doing nearly all my damage through combos; it just seems ineffective next my 2H-sword.  Was loading up on all these mana items until I realized I hardly use any mana.

My flame breath has always done more damage than my non-combo attacks, and since it doesn't delay your attacks why not use it while getting combos off.  It's like extra free ae damage.

[Brogarn]

Sadly, I'm still excited about playing yet another character through Tortage. Well, not so much Tortage, but my need to sate my curiosity of how the different classes play. Oh, and what each archetype's role is in the Tortage story line.

Ya I'm an altaholic. But demmit, I'm looking forward to going home and rolling up that Stygian Assassin I've been thinking about playing.  

Then it's a   Shaman...

I think after that, I'll be done. Except for finishing up either my Demonologist or my HoX through Tortage. Unless I decide to try a Necro.

If I pass out, someone please remove the needle from my arm. Thanks.

[Special J]

My flame breath has always done more damage than my non-combo attacks, and since it doesn't delay your attacks why not use it while getting combos off.  It's like extra free ae damage.

Well shit. You learn something new every day.  I thought they would interrupt.

[schild]

I like my Priest of Rhona Mitra. She's pretty great. And I'm player her topless because:

1. It's super hot.
2. Armor doesn't do dick?

[Brogarn]

2. Armor doesn't do dick?

O.o

Tests have been done? I'll be seriously pissed if that's the case...

[schild]

The difference at low level is super nominal. Not worth it when the alternative is titties.

[Montague]

2. Armor doesn't do dick?

O.o

Tests have been done? I'll be seriously pissed if that's the case...

In Tortage the difference of 0.2 defense from armor is about nil. Edit - I really need to pay more attention to the red text when it pops up.

[schild]

But the tit differential is HUGE.

[KallDrexx]

Well shit. You learn something new every day.  I thought they would interrupt.

Well ok you can't attack and cast at the same time but what I means is it will only delay your next attack by it by 0.3 seconds, assuming you put 5 points in possession line (which is recommended anyways).  Either way you barely lose any time and increase your dps by quite a bit, and during battle there isn't too much to spend mana on so it's essentially a free blast every 4 seconds.

[Montague]

But the tit differential is HUGE.

Yes indeed. Speaking of tits, I am peeved that I did not get to bed that Alyssa wench from the Thirsty Dog. She seemed willing but gave me that line that "Come back when you're not hunted by the Red Hand" or some such. I even went so far as to come back to Tortage after killing the leader to collect my just "rewards" but she was still giving me the Red Hand line. Lame.

 

[Engels]

On another note, I got my female toon to sleep with a drunk, then blackmail him by threatening to tell the whole town that his dick was limp. Go Go M rated quest writing!

[Morfiend]

My flame breath has always done more damage than my non-combo attacks, and since it doesn't delay your attacks why not use it while getting combos off.  It's like extra free ae damage.

Well shit. You learn something new every day.  I thought they would interrupt.

You want to put your first 5 feat points in to the Flame Breath casting time reduction, then you go Combo, flame breath, combo flame breath, and pretty much any even level pack of mobs is dead. If you put 5 points in to that feat, your flame breath casting time is .3 second. It makes it much much better.

[Lantyssa]

Yes indeed. Speaking of tits, I am peeved that I did not get to bed that Alyssa wench from the Thirsty Dog. She seemed willing but gave me that line that "Come back when you're not hunted by the Red Hand" or some such. I even went so far as to come back to Tortage after killing the leader to collect my just "rewards" but she was still giving me the Red Hand line. Lame.

I totally want to do her.  And get Sancha's outfit for myself.  Okie, maybe I want to do her, too, in the process of getting her clothes.

I'm such a whore.  (It's okay though, I follow Derketo.)

[Special J]

Well ok you can't attack and cast at the same time but what I means is it will only delay your next attack by it by 0.3 seconds, assuming you put 5 points in possession line (which is recommended anyways).  Either way you barely lose any time and increase your dps by quite a bit, and during battle there isn't too much to spend mana on so it's essentially a free blast every 4 seconds.

I get it now. I better read those talents again.