Darkfall "Released"

[Lantyssa]

If you decide to risk WAR, remember refer a friend.

[Chinchilla]

Well so far it is going greag.  Loving learning the game and all the little discoveries I am making.  Newb protection isn't over yet.  Now I just gotta start researching for a guild/clan.  I'm  a pretty casual gamer, but I love to get serious once I'm in and do some PvP and such :)!

[Chinchilla]

Has anyone seen the TFK map that they talk about on their recruit post on the forums?  Its supposed to be really good.  Is it?

[Speedy Cerviche]

Never seen it but judgeing by the picture it is their own clan proprietary DF atlas. There's a few public ones around:

http://www.feylines.net/yourmom/ (limited badnwidth for non-members, worth it to get a membership if you're sticking around)
http://darkfallsage.com/ (no map, but lots of data)

There's a few non-updated maps that are partially obsolete but still OK (google "Sinister Map" and "darkfall atlas").

TFK is a very solid clan if you are looking for one, they've been around a long time, have a strong core and support new guys well. My clan is allied with them and lives with them.

[Chinchilla]

Awesome!  Thank u for that info!

[Nightblade]

If anyone is brave curious enough to try this, it's 14.99 on impulse right now.

I was almost bored enough to give it another shot. Almost.

http://www.impulsedriven.com/darkfallus

[UnSub]

Dark Fallus is a heck of a name.

[Chinchilla]

If anyone is brave curious enough to try this, it's 14.99 on impulse right now.

I was almost bored enough to give it another shot. Almost.

http://www.impulsedriven.com/darkfallus

Looks like it went back up to its normal price.  I'm really enjoying Darkfall.  I love the combat system as it really makes ya work and think.  Hell... I like how even though I can do really well killing goblins.  If I don't watch what I'm doing and try the normal old -- run in, auto attack, and just do my thing because these guys are trivial -- I can get killed.  I can't slack off.

[Nightblade]

Dark Fallus is a heck of a name.

Dark Fall (US) 

[WayAbvPar]

I am starting to realize just how far I have to go before I am more than a speedbump. It is daunting, but each small bit of progress gets me closer. Am learning (the hard way) not to get attached to any material goods- at this point it is all about stat gains. Decided to move away from my clan/alliance's main city since the n00b spawns were all like 20 minutes away. Living out of Charybdis atm.

[Chinchilla]

I am starting to realize just how far I have to go before I am more than a speedbump. It is daunting, but each small bit of progress gets me closer. Am learning (the hard way) not to get attached to any material goods- at this point it is all about stat gains. Decided to move away from my clan/alliance's main city since the n00b spawns were all like 20 minutes away. Living out of Charybdis atm.

Is your clan a good clan?  Do they take newbies?  I have been searching for a clan as I have 6 hours of newbie protection time left and I didn't know who I should use as everyone portrays such a good image of wanting to help, but the question is.... how much can they really?!?!?  So I figured I'd ask you.

[WayAbvPar]

I am running with the goons, so unless you have an active SA account you would probably be out of luck. May check with Speedy though.

[Chinchilla]

I am running with the goons, so unless you have an active SA account you would probably be out of luck. May check with Speedy though.

I was hoping to hear from Speedy too.  SA account?  What's that?

[Malakili]

I am running with the goons, so unless you have an active SA account you would probably be out of luck. May check with Speedy though.

I was hoping to hear from Speedy too.  SA account?  What's that?

Something Awful

[Chinchilla]

I am running with the goons, so unless you have an active SA account you would probably be out of luck. May check with Speedy though.

I was hoping to hear from Speedy too.  SA account?  What's that?

Something Awful

I've gone to Something Awful alot to read up on Darkfall and Mortal Online.  I was thinking of making an account as I have found those forums to be useful at times.

How many goons (as I see everyone refer to them as) are there in Darkfall?

Edit: Oh they charge for you to setup an account.  I read some more on MO and DF.  Looks like I made the right choice to go to DF and not MO.  I'll register when I get home because those forums have been pretty useful in the past.

[Chinchilla]

Oh and what's that SA clan name?  I just wanted to take a look at it.  They use Vent and such?  Just trying to find out info so I know where I should go.

[Speedy Cerviche]

Hey guys was out of town. If you can't join the goon clan with WayAbvPar and are looking for a good clan, mine own (Ruff Necks, ork & wolf race only) or our allies (TFK and Necessary Evil take all races) take in newbies and assist them. We use vent and are mature member clans (no kids), active (our alliance population is usually about 40-60 each night), and have multiple holdings.

[LC]

There's a few non-updated maps that are partially obsolete but still OK (google "Sinister Map" and "darkfall atlas").

Sinister Map isn't updated because I don't play anymore. If anyone here wants to update it, I will give you access to the admin page.

[WayAbvPar]

I didn't know that was you! Can you take a quick snapshot of the YourMoms map for one last update?   If I had the time, I would totally update it for you.

Reds is the goon clan, btw.

[Speedy Cerviche]

I wouldn't update anything right now, this chronically delayed x-pac contains a major PvE overhaul so a lot of mob spawns will be re-done.

[LC]

I didn't know that was you! Can you take a quick snapshot of the YourMoms map for one last update?   If I had the time, I would totally update it for you.

Reds is the goon clan, btw.

Yourmom copied their data from my map originally. As far as I know, there's no way to rip them off easily. It would have to be copied manually. I don't have time or care enough about df to do it. The offer for admin access is still open though if anyone else wants to.

[Chinchilla]

Hey Speedy - are they pretty active in PvP as well?

I've been contacted by multiple clans for membership, but wasn't sure who to go with so I didn't commit anywhere.  The one that made lotsa promises for good mob spawns / mining / other stuff was Vigilantes.  I spoke to one of the members some last night, but never did anything solid on joining as I was hoping to hear more from 1st hand experience.

I will take a look at those clans you suggested Speedy.

My newb protection is gone and I got my first taste of PvP yesterday :).  It was a RUSH and fun!  Some bastard (Marlboro man) did the trade/guild invite trick on me and I wasn't paying attention as I was fishing for Wisdom gain and I joined.  He got to loot my whole 20 fish and fishing pole.  Then because I was annoyed of what happened I went on a killing spree of killing all the members of that clan while I waited for my 45 min timer.  Got some newb loot and little gold from those other ppl.  Never was able to kill Marlboro as his character is currently better developed.

[Speedy Cerviche]

Hey Speedy - are they pretty active in PvP as well?

I've been contacted by multiple clans for membership, but wasn't sure who to go with so I didn't commit anywhere.  The one that made lotsa promises for good mob spawns / mining / other stuff was Vigilantes.  I spoke to one of the members some last night, but never did anything solid on joining as I was hoping to hear more from 1st hand experience.

I will take a look at those clans you suggested Speedy.

My newb protection is gone and I got my first taste of PvP yesterday :).  It was a RUSH and fun!  Some bastard (Marlboro man) did the trade/guild invite trick on me and I wasn't paying attention as I was fishing for Wisdom gain and I joined.  He got to loot my whole 20 fish and fishing pole.  Then because I was annoyed of what happened I went on a killing spree of killing all the members of that clan while I waited for my 45 min timer.  Got some newb loot and little gold from those other ppl.  Never was able to kill Marlboro as his character is currently better developed.

We're pretty active PvP wise usually have a raid party or two running around the world most nights plus our capital city is getting the reputation as a PvP hotspot since it is decently populated most of the day so it attracts enemy raiders.

Vigilante is a well established clan with a sizeable vet core and are pretty active, they have holdings all over the map so you would have decent PvE spawns, they don't have the best reputation but not the worst either. A couple of months ago they tried to siege one of our hamlets at 3am saturday which was a dick move (we won anyways), I also see that in their new recruit sub clan "Migilantes" they have recently added a few characters of lesser repute. One of their hamlets, Vellenyth is about 50 feet outside a Maharim NPC town and there's usually a non-stop clusterfuck there, kind of the gaza strip of darkfall (not very fun pvp IMO unless you are a fan of playing cat and mouse NPC zap tower tag), like Britain cemetrary was back in early UO.

Not familiar with this Marlboro Man guy but seems like he is a scrubby griefer wannabee who hangs around human land. These guys are usually a joke and once you join a proper clan you won't have to worry about them again but it is unfortunate they can use some loopholes in the game's weak alignment system to harass newbies. My clan maintains a presence in ork land and we've cleared most of these guys out but there aren't similar clans who are capable of "policing" the other racial areas.

Anyways PvP is quite a rush in DF I was surpised, really gets the adrenaline pumping something I have not experienced in video games besides in a few league matches for some action games, certainly not in other MMOs (besides maybe UO) or casual FPS play. Combat is intense and the potential loss (or gain!) of gear adds some nice stakes to battles.

[WayAbvPar]

My only PvP kill to date is on some dude who attacked me in town. The towers went to work on him, and then he turned back to blue JUST as I loosed my first arrow. I said fuck it and killed him anyway. Towers killed me and he and his buddy split my shit loot. It was still kind of satisfying.

AFK swimming my life away today. They really do need to mitigate the grind a bit. It is really pretty punitive.

[Speedy Cerviche]

Looking back I'd have to say the first 1-3 months are probably the most overwhelming because you want to get stuff like weapon mastery, advanced archery skills, greater magic then elemental magic, a fairly big list of skills that can make you decently competitive. Stuff like getting weapon skill from 50 to 75 can take a few days but feels like forever, same for getting witchcraft from 50 to 75, especially when you are new to the game and aren't the most efficient PvEer yet.

If you are joining a clan asap (which you should), focus on archery and magic. Archery goes up quickly and is effective in PvE and you can add damage in PvP while stay safe, and also aim to get sacrifice spell in spellchanting school (along with the essential lesser magic spells, up to launch to get into player cities). With archery and sacrifice you can make solid contributions to clan pvp while hanging back and avoid the heavy hitters with 100 melee mastery. Listen to you commanders and help add damage to focus targets or targets caught in wall of force, and keep an eye out for partymates in trouble who needs heals (solid cross healing with sacrifice is the main difference between good PvP units and a rabble), learn to do this decently well and you will be appreciated by any good clan.

[WayAbvPar]

My biggest problem is affording reagents. I have been rolled a couple times while I was out gathering, so I have just about dick for regs to level my Spell Chanting and Witchcraft. Finally got archery over 75 so could start on Sharpshooter and Spirited Archer (I can already see the difference there, so that is helpful). Next step is to get my wisdom to 40 so I can craft some gear and not have to raid the clan bank or use inferior shit all the time. 2.3 points to go there, which will probably go quickly when I do some more fishing and then cook the metric fuckton of fish I have in the bank.

[Speedy Cerviche]

Shoot at casting mobs that drop regs, push up to 90 archery and you could pickup "mage killer" +20% dmg vs mobs with a staff equipped. Build up a nice stock up regs and gold then start training magery.

You can get by with crummy armour if you are just using archery and casting (you get archery penalty over 50 encumberence, over 10 is a magery penalty), you only need heavy armour for melee.

[Chinchilla]

Ok I must say - Fuck Migilantes. I have spoken to this one guy That I was told to contact and it had been two days now and he hasn't told me whether yes or no. Annoying ass dude. Don't feel like waiting forever for just a simple clan invite. Gonna check out the clan u guys talked about as they sound fun w/ the PvP action and such.

[Chinchilla]

Which of those 2 would u say is the better one?  TFK or Necessary Evil?  When I looked at the clan info Necessary has 1 holding. What does that mean?  They have a town?

[Speedy Cerviche]

They have one but it's basically abandoned (and it's considered one of the worst cities in the game), both TFK and Necessary Evil live in the Ruff Neck holdings (3). It's beneficial to have your alliance's holdings under one clan tag so you can portal between them. I would say TFK at this point is a more organized clan with stronger leadership, though both are active and full of nice people.

[Chinchilla]

I will contact TFK then tonight or tomorrow night (working late here at work) to see about recruitment.

[DarkSign]

I'm thinking of trying this...but am still on the fence? I've read bits and pieces of this thread, but am still not sure.

Thoughts?

[Chinchilla]

Its hard for me to say to be honest.  I really enjoyed it, but I also really enjoyed Ultima Online back in the day.  Some players have become fairly (for lack of a better term) CareBearish.  Now not saying that to be non-carebear you need to like grinding and such.  Not saying that.  What I'm talking about is if you can take maybe being killed multiple times in 1 night.  Like on Sunday night I got killed 3 times.  I had a fairly OK chance of escaping, but it would have been tough as my character is fairly newbie and my computer lags like a MOFO.  If I wasn't so newbie and laggy PC (new one coming soooooonnnn!!!) I could have put up a nice fight against those guys.

I ended up actually getting some pretty decent gear from 1 of the PK guys who contacted me after killing me.  He was very nice and gave me some of the gear he got off of other people he had killed.

This game reminds me tremendously of UO.  I honestly love the free for all PvP, the crafting mechanics I am enjoying so far even though I hear it will take alot of resources to work the skills up (this reminds me of UO as well), I love the combat mechanics where you have to aim and such... not just hit auto attack.  And various other things that I can't get into right now as I need to go home :).  Work is over!

[DarkSign]

Hey, I played UO pre-Trammel and loved the beginning of SB when it was semi-UOish.  Actual aiming sounds like a win. Grinding simply has to be done in any current MMO...so I supposed I'll resign myself to that.

[Ghambit]

Wtf, is this game "good" now or something??  I've been ignoring this thread for months and months... here I come back and there's all this koombaya shit now.