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Reply #70 on: March 11, 2008, 04:42:48 AM

Well the truly scary part is that anyone who's played any fair amount of MMO's knows that minimum specs are NOT playable specs in most cases.

Think those minimum specs include heavy traffic areas like vendors, banks, quest hubs or POI's? Hell no. Those are probably out on your lonesome in the middle of butt fuck Egypt in non combat I would guess. No hard facts on this of course, but I'm working off past history.

Don't get me wrong, I'm hoping AoC is successful, as long as it's crafted well and deserves to be rewarded. It takes a few steps off the beaten path design wise and that should be encouraged at all times in the MMO scene. But those system specs, coupled with the fact that the combat is very twitch based and thus requires quick response time and fluid gameplay, scare the hell out of me. They're already working with a very niche IP imo and they just slashed their customer base considerably when they dropped those numbers.

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Reply #71 on: March 11, 2008, 06:31:23 AM

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Reply #72 on: March 11, 2008, 08:06:59 AM

Yeah, those system requirements probably just shitcanned any chance I had at playing AOC this year. Even if I could, it would probably look like refried monkey ass.

The lessons of Vanguard are apparently really hard to learn.

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Reply #73 on: March 11, 2008, 08:23:22 AM

Yeah, those system requirements probably just shitcanned any chance I had at playing AOC this year. Even if I could, it would probably look like refried monkey ass.

The lessons of Vanguard are apparently really hard to learn.

A lot of vanguards issues were coding issues. Some, made the minimum specs a down right lie, you need more horsepower to overcome bad code/graphic programing choices.

I guess it really all depends on how well AOC's fall back features are.

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Reply #74 on: March 11, 2008, 08:47:35 AM

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Minimum Specifications:

OS: Windows Vista/XP
Processor: 3GHz Pentium IV
RAM: 1GB RAM
Video Card: Shader Model 2.0 and 128MB RAM: NVIDIA GeForce 5800 or ATI 9800


Ummm, yeah.


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Reply #75 on: March 11, 2008, 08:51:22 AM

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Minimum Specifications:

OS: Windows Vista/XP
Processor: 3GHz Pentium IV
RAM: 1GB RAM
Video Card: Shader Model 2.0 and 128MB RAM: NVIDIA GeForce 5800 or ATI 9800

Those don't seem unreasonable for anyone that plays PC games regularly.  Especially for a game that isn't likely to be released for another 6+ months.

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Reply #76 on: March 11, 2008, 09:08:51 AM

It will certainly come down to how well it plays on a min spec machine, its not looking good for them though is it.

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Reply #77 on: March 11, 2008, 09:28:17 AM

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OS: Windows Vista/XP
Processor: 3GHz Pentium IV
RAM: 1GB RAM
Video Card: Shader Model 2.0 and 128MB RAM: NVIDIA GeForce 5800 or ATI 9800

Those don't seem unreasonable for anyone that plays PC games regularly.  Especially for a game that isn't likely to be released for another 6+ months.

Not to go back to the elephant in the room, but WoW runs on nearly anything with a graphics card. No way in hell are they busting 100k subscriptions if everyone needs cutting edge machines to play the game.

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Reply #78 on: March 11, 2008, 10:06:41 AM

Those don't seem unreasonable for anyone that plays PC games regularly.  Especially for a game that isn't likely to be released for another 6+ months.
Given they're the "yeah, right" minimum specs i think there's certain unfounded amount of optimism about them.
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Reply #79 on: March 11, 2008, 05:56:43 PM

So... how do those specs fit in with AoC ever launching on the Xbox360?

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Reply #80 on: March 11, 2008, 06:00:31 PM

Those specs are roughly what I had in a computer 5 years ago (except the graphics card, kind of expected though). They're completely fair and there's no reason it wouldn't run on a 360.

Edit: The only "issue" is the 35GB install.
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Reply #81 on: March 11, 2008, 06:12:11 PM

Those specs are roughly what I had in a computer 5 years ago (except the graphics card, kind of expected though). They're completely fair and there's no reason it wouldn't run on a 360.

Edit: The only "issue" is the 35GB install.

I obviously missed where it said it was a 35GB install. That's kind of insane.

I wish the NDA would drop. C'mon, open beta!  awesome, for real

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Reply #82 on: March 11, 2008, 06:15:38 PM

A bunch of people were just put into the general beta now that the tech beta is over.

I may have been one of those people.
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Reply #83 on: March 11, 2008, 06:21:18 PM

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Reply #84 on: March 11, 2008, 06:23:34 PM

Guys.

There's no cancel button on this install.

What happens if I didn't have 70GB free?
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Reply #85 on: March 11, 2008, 06:25:25 PM

Guys.

There's no cancel button on this install.

What happens if I didn't have 70GB free?

Get a second hard drive and plug it in before your HD fills up!



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Reply #86 on: March 11, 2008, 06:26:22 PM

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Reply #87 on: March 11, 2008, 06:26:48 PM

Guys.

There's no cancel button on this install.

What happens if I didn't have 70GB free?

Get a second hard drive and plug it in before your HD fills up!

I can't! I'm already using drive letters C through Z!
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Reply #88 on: March 11, 2008, 06:43:26 PM

Ohshit Funcom. It's gonna delete your windows directories to make room!!!



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Reply #89 on: March 11, 2008, 06:43:50 PM

I think it deleted 3 other MMOGs.

Good thing I don't remember what they were.
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Reply #90 on: March 11, 2008, 07:42:46 PM

Did you get the game to actually patch properly?
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Reply #91 on: March 11, 2008, 07:47:13 PM

Watching In Treatment, can't be bothered to play an MMOG.
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Reply #92 on: March 11, 2008, 08:09:59 PM

Patching up to the new version is working, I think. The patcher window disappeared but the process is running.

I'm pretty sure an install process is not covered by NDA. Especially when you CAN'T SEE WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON.
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Reply #93 on: March 11, 2008, 08:54:04 PM

Seriously, to the people crying about the minimal specs......get a fuckin job. My daughters PC is over the minimal. Is 1 GB of RAM too much for you?

Anyways, I am totally for Wow's approach of 3 years ago...but...You cant expect a game coming out in 08 to be playable on a Pent 3.

The 35gb install.....hopefully they are....ah fuck it...thats just stupid.




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Reply #94 on: March 11, 2008, 08:57:59 PM

Correction. Download was 35GB. Install was like 24.5 or something after the patch.
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Reply #95 on: March 11, 2008, 09:05:47 PM

 ACK! you're not joking are you?
Are we staring at a 4 DVD release? This is dwarving Vanguard's famed 20 GB install size.

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Reply #96 on: March 11, 2008, 09:09:30 PM

ACK! you're not joking are you?
Are we staring at a 4 DVD release? This is dwarving Vanguard's famed 20 GB install size.

Look at the screenshot a few posts up. Look how much was left on the install.

ANYWAY.

Disc space is cheap. I joked about the vanguard size. But who cares.
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Reply #97 on: March 11, 2008, 09:19:52 PM

Correction. Download was 35GB. Install was like 24.5 or something after the patch.

maybe i'm stupid , but how is it that the install size is smaller than the download? isn't it the other way around usually?

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Reply #98 on: March 11, 2008, 09:22:18 PM

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Reply #99 on: March 11, 2008, 09:45:20 PM

I hear 3 gig of that are nipples that won't be present in the American distribution, so its really only 17.1 gig.

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Reply #100 on: March 11, 2008, 11:45:11 PM

I'm not saying if I downloaded it or not, but IF I had, the original download would been around 18 gigs, not 35.  If I had installed, it would've told me to have 35 gigs free, but not use all of it.  If I had done those things of course, which I havn't.  awesome, for real
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Reply #101 on: March 12, 2008, 12:13:09 AM

A bunch of people were just put into the general beta now that the tech beta is over.

I may have been one of those people.

Tech beta is over? I obviously haven't been paying attention.

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Reply #102 on: March 12, 2008, 12:19:00 AM

AOC system requirements:

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Minimum Specifications:

OS: Windows Vista/XP
Processor: 3GHz Pentium IV
RAM: 1GB RAM
Video Card: Shader Model 2.0 and 128MB RAM: NVIDIA GeForce 5800 or ATI 9800

Recommended Specifications:

Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz (E6600) or better
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 7950GX2 or better
RAM: 2GB or more

So much for those "Similar to Oblivion" system requirements. Their minimum is Oblivion's recommended.

I hate to say it, but those steep requirements may have just insured that AoC bombs.

Are you sure Oblivion recommended a 9800 pro? I remember selling mine off because it was such a dog in Oblivion, even with most of the extra frills turned off. I'd say recommended cards there would be the 5900 and x800 class cards which were a generation after the 9800 pro.

Edit. Just looked it up and I'm right. Straight off the Bethsoft Oblivion page.

Recommended:

    * 3 Ghz Intel Pentium 4 or equivalent processor
    * 1 GB System RAM
    * ATI X800 series, NVIDIA GeForce 6800 series, or higher video card

Minimum System Requirements:

    * Windows XP, Windows 2000, Windows XP 64-bit
    * 512MB System RAM
    * 2 Ghz Intel Pentium 4 or equivalent processor
    * 128MB Direct3D compatible video card
    * and DirectX 9.0 compatible driver;
    * 8x DVD-ROM drive
    * 4.6 GB free hard disk space
    * DirectX 9.0c (included)
    * DirectX 8.1 compatible sound card
    * Keyboard, Mouse

Supported Video Card Chipsets:

    * ATI X1900 series
    * ATI X1800 series
    * ATI X1600 series
    * ATI X1300 series
    * ATI X850 series
    * ATI x800 series
    * ATI x700 series
    * ATI x600 series
    * ATI Radeon 9800 series
    * ATI Radeon 9700 series
    * ATI Radeon 9600 series
    * ATI Radeon 9500 series
    * NVIDIA GeForce 7800 series
    * NVIDIA GeForce 6800 series
    * NVIDIA GeForce 6600 series
    * NVIDIA GeForce 6200 series
    * NVIDIA GeForce FX series

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Reply #103 on: March 12, 2008, 01:01:13 AM

Seriously, to the people crying about the minimal specs......get a fuckin job.

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Reply #104 on: March 12, 2008, 04:16:20 AM

My wife is in the beta (wait.. I am not married) and what I saw over her shoulder says Vanguard and Conan should never appear in the same sentence, post, thread, forum, internet.

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