Memoirs of a Suicide Ganker

[MahrinSkel]

He....flew...threw...Uedama...on autopilot.....with 60 billion in cargo.

And no tank at all.  Okay, I went through Uedama with high-value cargoes on auto quite a lot...in a fully tanked Mastodon, or a pimped out Prowler, or a Fenrir that would take a whole fleet to gank.  I vote for "faked killmail", nobody is rich enough to be *that* casual with 60B.

--Dave

[Amarr HM]

He....flew...threw...Uedama...on autopilot.....with 60 billion in cargo.

And no tank at all.  Okay, I went through Uedama with high-value cargoes on auto quite a lot...in a fully tanked Mastodon, or a pimped out Prowler, or a Fenrir that would take a whole fleet to gank.  I vote for "faked killmail", nobody is rich enough to be *that* casual with 60B.

--Dave

It's quite possible I don't rule it out.

[Thrawn]

So what a good DPS/Alpha to aim for now?  I haven't done any ganking for a while but keep getting more and more tempted to do it.  I currently have a Amarr character I can use to do it for a few points of sec status and was looking at probably either -

or

But I worry about the lock time on the Geddon, and while I don't plan on doing ganking with Daala in the near future as we might be a tad busy with some place called Delve? I was looking at -


I really don't know if a Brutix will cut it for Daala post Concord buff as I'm only doing about 466dps.

Thoughts? Suggestions?

[Amarr HM]

If you were to use a geddon I would suggest a pulse turrets with tracking enhancers better tracking and more DPS.

[Thrawn]

If you were to use a geddon I would suggest a pulse turrets with tracking enhancers better tracking and more DPS.

Ah, that does seem better.  Can put a signal amp in low as well to improve lock time a bit.  Never flown anything Amarr before, pulse are the shorter range better tracking?

[Amarr HM]

Cool signal amps forgot about them.

[Slayerik]

Ok, going through some old loots I thought I'd offer some deals to mah old f13 friends.

Tempest BPO: ME 50  , PL 20 :  1 bill
Abaddon BPO: ME: 50 , PL 30 : 1.7 bil
Myrmidon BPO: ME 60, PL 40:  400 mil
Ferox BPO: ME 50, PL 35: 225 mil

Someone buys em as a package deal I'll sell em for 3 billion.

Misc researched BPOs:

Coercer
Thrasher
Vexor
Blackbird
Punisher
Itty 3
Heron
Tormentor
Burst
Rifter
Thrasher
Badger
Rifter
Cormy
Itty 4
Stabber
Kestrel
Mammoth
Bestower
Osprey
Maller
Rupture
Merlin
Vigil
Catalyst
Probe
Vigil
Executioner
Badger Mk II
Tristan
Cormy
Kessy x 2
Condor

Full rig BPO set

[WayAbvPar]

What kind of financing do you offer? 

[Slayerik]

Actually, I'm pretty much done with having people owe me. My memory just sucks too bad for it. I even made a fuckin ledger last time....

[Thrawn]

Intersted in a lot of them, just need to get isk together.

[Slayerik]

Calling all non-broke fuckers out there!!! ;)

[Slayerik]

http://f13.7mph.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=6684

I'm outta retirement, bitches! Only took me an hour to scan then pop this noob.


The prices are off, contracts look to be about 50-70 million each. 400-500 million for an hours work, ya gotta love it!

[Nerf]

Does this mean you're going to start paying for your own fucking accounts? 

[Slayerik]

Does this mean you're going to start paying for your own fucking accounts? 

Never again take that tone with me, young noob-iwan..

I paid for enough months of free alts for a ton of my friends, don't be butthurt cause you actually helped a brotha out for once :)

[Nerf]

Don't tell people I helped a brotha out in an open forum, you'll ruin my rep!

[Murgos]

Ok, going through some old loots I thought I'd offer some deals to mah old f13 friends.

snipped stuff

Wish I had some cash.

[Thrawn]

This thread has got me thinking, I wonder how well I could do just sitting in Niajara/Madilmee/whatever on weekends and trying to steal suicide gankers loot.  Just sit 160km off gate cloaked and warp to wrecks.  Would be easy enough just to have another window open while ratting and pop it up if you hear guns firing.

[Slayerik]

This thread has got me thinking, I wonder how well I could do just sitting in Niajara/Madilmee/whatever on weekends and trying to steal suicide gankers loot.  Just sit 160km off gate cloaked and warp to wrecks.  Would be easy enough just to have another window open while ratting and pop it up if you hear guns firing.

They are awful quick to be on the wrecks, it is quite easy as the ganker to have your hauler warp in at 10 and sit there. By the time you even made it to the wreck, it would be clean. Jump into where he is hunting in a Viator or something, and don't move. He will assume you are an AFKer at your waypoint, when the shooting starts,  bump his hauler using your MWD.

Or Just cloak and wait a little above the kill zone.

[Amarr HM]

How about using a Blockade runner with it's newfound ability to cloakwarp? Ok so you mightn't be able to pick up the bigger hauls but you would be unseen and you warp faster than a DST.

[Pax]

Don't sit 160km from the killzone, but off-grid or 200km + and be aligned at half speed?

Though Slayerik is probably right, they're really quick and the delay when initiating and exiting warp is gonna cost valuable time.

[Slayerik]

Of course I am right, I've dealt with these dudes (and even stole some loot with my methods). :)

Trust me, cloak a little above kill zone. When firing starts, haul ass and bump other one if ya can.

[Amarr HM]

I did this with an alt managed to scoop one can with 300m worth of goods, I used a blockade runner and sat her 180km off gate cloaked, I could have easily got the whole billion (I saw their killmail) worth if I didn't alt-tab to the wrong Eve client (windowed mode crashes my client all the time)...twice when I heard the guns go off. Reason I didn't go for the bump thing was they had at least 3 haulers on the gate.

[Predator Irl]

Blockade runner sitting near their haulers would work because you would burn to the wreck a hell of a lot quicker than regular haulers. The only problem is the blockade runners cargo hold is about 4750m3 when fit for speed over cargo space. Although you could sacrifice some of the speed for a few cargo expanders and still win the race to the wreck.

[Slayerik]

Blockade runner sitting near their haulers would work because you would burn to the wreck a hell of a lot quicker than regular haulers. The only problem is the blockade runners cargo hold is about 4750m3 when fit for speed over cargo space. Although you could sacrifice some of the speed for a few cargo expanders and still win the race to the wreck.

You'd want to be able to hold like 2 GSCs.

[Amarr HM]

Blockade runner sitting near their haulers would work because you would burn to the wreck a hell of a lot quicker than regular haulers. The only problem is the blockade runners cargo hold is about 4750m3 when fit for speed over cargo space. Although you could sacrifice some of the speed for a few cargo expanders and still win the race to the wreck.

You can fit 9-10k m3 on there and still go fast enough to deliver a good bump.

[Thrawn]

So a new question now...how many torp using stealth bombers would it take to pull off ganks?   

[Endie]

So a new question now...how many torp using stealth bombers would it take to pull off ganks?   

You'd presumably want target painters to maximise the effect of the torps, even with sig radius bonuses?

[Slayerik]

I saw a guy use them exclusively in my ganking travels...think it was a manticore.

[Nerf]

--Black ops jabber leak--

(12:59:38 AM) Nongbong Fongrong: wait i looked it up and jihad page on wiki says you *can* be podded after suiciding with criminal flag up
(1:01:12 AM) Cingach: yeah fuck ya'll
(1:01:18 AM) Cingach: night
(1:05:56 AM) Nongbong Fongrong: HUZZAH
(1:06:18 AM) Nongbong Fongrong: jhaded a hulk and all it cost me was 8m isk and .12 sec status
(1:06:52 AM) Nongbong Fongrong: although if someone could come pick this up... anyone have an alt in amarr?
(1:06:57 AM) Nongbong Fongrong: gisti a type dropped :v
(1:07:32 AM) mokita: youre supposed to have an alt ready to grab loot
(1:07:36 AM) mr_adebisi: you didn't efb
(1:07:41 AM) mr_adebisi: go scoop that shit asap
(1:07:46 AM) Nongbong Fongrong: what i can't for 15 minutes can i?
(1:07:59 AM) mr_adebisi: this is why you have an empire alt ready aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
(1:08:01 AM) gabriel_lansten: I think I might have a character there atm
(1:08:02 AM) Nongbong Fongrong: i just wanted to kill a guy
(1:08:05 AM) Nongbong Fongrong: i don't have any alts
(1:08:05 AM) gabriel_lansten: I'll have to check
(1:08:09 AM) Nongbong Fongrong: i said that like an hour ago
(1:08:18 AM) mr_adebisi: spy
(1:10:32 AM) gabriel_lansten: pi ts nongbong
(1:14:14 AM) barwinius: anything happening in insmother area?
(1:20:40 AM) Nongbong Fongrong: ahahahdslkfasdk jfkaj
(1:20:48 AM) Nongbong Fongrong: he ragequit and never came back for his a-type
(1:21:03 AM) nerf_blasters: ?
(1:21:16 AM) Nongbong Fongrong: http://killboard.goonfleet.com/km/351839
(1:21:30 AM) nerf_blasters: ..and you looted it?
(1:21:36 AM) Nongbong Fongrong: yes
(1:21:39 AM) Nongbong Fongrong: 15 minutes later
(1:21:40 AM) nerf_blasters: after 15m of agression?
(1:21:43 AM) nerf_blasters: hahahahahhahahahaa
(1:21:53 AM) Nongbong Fongrong: hahahaha, oh my god
(1:21:58 AM) Nongbong Fongrong: i'm gonna go have a victory smoke

tl;dr guy wants to jihad a macroing hulk for fun, has no alt to scoop, doesn't bother to shipscan target.  Ganks hulk with gistii a-type, a-type drops, 15minutes of aggression timer later, its still in the wreck.

[Fordel]

What's a gitsi-a type worth?

[Amarr HM]

What's a gitsi-a type worth?

250m or so.

[Fordel]

That's a lot of rifters.

[Setanta]

No killsheet for it but last night I was mining with a retriever (alt) and badger (main) in 0.7 when the retriever disintegrates in a puff of smoke. I then watch as a battleship is torched by Concord, I scoop the wrecks and salvage and with the insurance payment completely finance the 6 mill I lost on the retriever with change left over. NFI why he did it other than stupidity as his loss was nuts compared to mine (after recovery I needed to replace 1 Strip Miner I and a survey module - all my T2 stuff was recovered).

Worst suicide gank ever

[Phildo]

Sounds more like a Jihad than a Suicide Gank.  A really, really bad Jihad.

[Slayerik]

http://f13.7mph.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=10895

Outta retirement? And no, they weren't all BPO's...just a few of em.. probably a 300-400 mil score.