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stray
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The issue with Rodriguez quitting the guild was merely a legal issue. It sucks, yeah, but it had nothing to do with them trying to cockblock Miller specifically. There are rules to that sort of thing, and Rodriguez was too stoked/impatient to wait on the project to get rolling. If a similar situation popped up in some kind of labor union, you'd get a similar outcome.
Besides, unions are probably the most benevolent element in hollywood. I know there are bad guys in that industry, but they're not it.
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The length of a feature film is deceptive. There's a lot crammed in that two hours, and a lot of depth and subtlety in the storywriting when it's done right.
You can cram a lot in, but you're still limited to one doing one major story arc per movie for a lack of a better way of putting it. I'd rather have Geoff Johns doing his work on Green Lantern and JSA among other things, and able to write mutiple story arcs in the time it would take him to do one movie. |
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stu
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Cim
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I like that cup!
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I thought "V for Vendetta" worked very well as an adaptation and as a film of our time. If it had been a straight take and been about Thatcherist England, it would have been outdated and off-target.
I don't doubt that Hollywood is a bitch of a place for writers (see: the current strike) but in most cases Moore is just being a stubborn bastard.
For the record, I didn't think LXG was that bad a movie (no, it wasn't a great film); if they had done a straight take of the first run of the comic, it would have been a very boring movie.
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Llava
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For the record, I didn't think LXG was that bad a movie (no, it wasn't a great film); if they had done a straight take of the first run of the comic, it would have been a very boring movie.
I'm going to do you a favor and ignore that whole bit. Your post had way more credibility before this. Yes, it really was that bad a movie. Go back and watch it again. |
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For the record, I didn't think LXG was that bad a movie (no, it wasn't a great film); if they had done a straight take of the first run of the comic, it would have been a very boring movie.
I'm going to do you a favor and ignore that whole bit. Your post had way more credibility before this. Yes, it really was that bad a movie. Go back and watch it again. I've seen LXG at least twice. It is hilariously bad, but it wasn't eye-gougingly bad. That honour in 2006 was reserved for Van Helsing. |
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Llava
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No.
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Lantyssa
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I've seen LXG at least twice. It is hilariously bad, but it wasn't eye-gougingly bad. That honour in 2006 was reserved for Van Helsing.
There is nothing eye-gouging about Kate Whatsherface in tight pants and frilly shirts. Mind-numbing and drool inducing 'entertainment' perhaps. LXG was, however, eye-gougingly bad. I wanted my money back even though I saw it when a friend rented it through NetFlix. |
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Llava
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Yes.
(Van Helsing was silly and melodramatic and it set that context in the first 5 seconds of the film. It's not the movie's fault that it wasn't what you wanted it to be.)
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That the saints may enjoy their beatitude and the grace of God more abundantly they are permitted to see the punishment of the damned in hell. -Saint Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica
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HaemishM
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No, Van Helsing was just shit. Kate's ass in leather could not save that movie, and I should have turned it off after Dracula first appeared with that accent. It was shitty shit shit shit.
LXG was bad, but it wasn't anywhere near that bad. It was a bad version of the comic story, it was a cheesy fest of silliness, and it had Tom Fucking Sawyer, but it wasn't Van Helsing.
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stray
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OK, knocking Tom Sawyer is Alan Moore's schtick. Fuck him. I'm glad they rubbed that in his face.
That being said, the movie was really bad. No argument there. But it wasn't because of Tom Sawyer!
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HaemishM
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Tom Sawyer was an American icon, that was written into a collection of British pulp characters, who shouldn't even have been the age he was at that time. It was a character shoehorned into something he had no business being in because some asshead producer thought American audiences wouldn't identify with non-American characters. The concept was ludicrous on its face.
And yet I liked the movie.
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Guillermo del Toro is awesome.
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Del Toro has another movie due for release called The Orphanage. It's being compared to The Others, so it should be a solid thriller/horror flick. Still, I'm definitely higher on Del Toro working on projects with more of an action flavor.
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Del Toro has another movie due for release called The Orphanage. It's being compared to The Others, so it should be a solid thriller/horror flick. Still, I'm definitely higher on Del Toro working on projects with more of an action flavor.
It's already in release. I got it at my theater last week, but haven't watched it yet. |
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stu
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Doh!
BTW, LXG was bad, but Van Helsing was so awful I couldn't sit through the whole thing. With Van Helsing, I wanted gore, cursing, and T & A the way Coppola did it in his Dracula flick. That one had Keanu and it still managed to be awsome (Garry Oldman FTW).
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shiznitz
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Bram Stoker's Dracula was the last time Winona looked smoking hot, hotter than Kate at her best.
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Llava
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Well, all I can say is that Roger Ebert agrees with me. Van Helsing may not have delivered what you wanted, but it delivered what it promised. Yes, it was fucking silly. It was supposed to be.
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That the saints may enjoy their beatitude and the grace of God more abundantly they are permitted to see the punishment of the damned in hell. -Saint Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica
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Well, all I can say is that Roger Ebert agrees with me. Van Helsing may not have delivered what you wanted, but it delivered what it promised. Yes, it was fucking silly. It was supposed to be.
Van Helsing was promoted as the next great action franchise, ala Indiana Jones. It was a long way from delivering what was promised. |
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Llava
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Not at all what I pulled from those commercials, but that's a matter of interpretation. By "what it promised" I'm referring to the first couple minutes of the movie indicating what you should expect.
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That the saints may enjoy their beatitude and the grace of God more abundantly they are permitted to see the punishment of the damned in hell. -Saint Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica
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Velorath
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Not at all what I pulled from those commercials, but that's a matter of interpretation. By "what it promised" I'm referring to the first couple minutes of the movie indicating what you should expect.
By which point people had already paid their money. |
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Llava
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Yes, fine, fair enough. I honestly don't really care to continue to defend a movie I found passably entertaining. Hate it all you want.
LXG was worse. That's all.
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That the saints may enjoy their beatitude and the grace of God more abundantly they are permitted to see the punishment of the damned in hell. -Saint Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica
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Velorath
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Yes, fine, fair enough. I honestly don't really care to continue to defend a movie I found passably entertaining. Hate it all you want.
LXG was worse. That's all.
LXG was worse in the respect that its existance actively discourages people who have never read the comic to actually give it a try. |
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