Transformers reinvented. Again.

[geldonyetich2]

Aaigh, they've gone all cute and animeish!

[SurfD]

Is that a FEMALE Decepticon just over top of Optimus' left shoulder?

[Lakov_Sanite]

Is that a FEMALE Decepticon just over top of Optimus' left shoulder?

Looks like black arachnia(sp) to me, extra eyes and all.

Edited to add not only does this seem to fuck with any kind of continuity the franchise had but also...it looks like complete and utter shit and was that optimus' voice?! jesus christ at least get someone who sounds like they've gone through puberty. 

This cartoon makes the live action movie seem like high art.

[stu]

Seems like Teen Titan with rounded robot skins.

A part of me was hoping for a serious, moody Transformers resembling the old Spawn animated series. That's not Cartoon Network territory, but it would have worked with the war the two sides were having. Heck, the original series had some serious undertones if I remember correctly- it's been twenty years since I watched it at 7AM every morning.

[Ironwood]

Didn't we do this thread ?

[Samwise]

Over here.

[geldonyetich2]

No wonder I couldn't find it, it was buried in a thread about the movie.

[HaemishM]

That looks like something an Asian man shit out after a bout with bad sushi.

[Nebu]

Looks a lot like a robot version of this:

[Mrbloodworth]

To much Fish eye lens.

[Phildo]

Who is driving?  Oh my god,  is driving, how can that be?

[Simond]

Complaining about Transformers becoming too anime is amusing, by the way. 

[Mrbloodworth]

Complaining about Transformers becoming too anime is amusing, by the way. 

Why is that?

[Phildo]

Complaining about Transformers becoming too anime is amusing, by the way. 

Why is that?

Giant fighting robots?

[geldonyetich2]

More likely this:

The Transformers is an American animated television series depicting a war between giant robots who could transform into vehicles, animals, and other objects. Written and recorded in America, and produced for American audiences, the series was animated in Japan and South Korea, and was based upon the line of transforming toys originally created by Japanese toy manufacturer Takara, which were developed into the Transformers line by American company Hasbro.

[Mrbloodworth]

Complaining about Transformers becoming too anime is amusing, by the way. 

Why is that?

Giant fighting robots?

Ok. Point? Giant fighting robots are the sole realm of anime?

You guys know there is a difference between cartoon and anime ....right?

Or is all animated anything now anime?

More likely this:

The Transformers is an American animated television series depicting a war between giant robots who could transform into vehicles, animals, and other objects. Written and recorded in America, and produced for American audiences, the series was animated in Japan and South Korea, and was based upon the line of transforming toys originally created by Japanese toy manufacturer Takara, which were developed into the Transformers line by American company Hasbro.

Irrelevant, as the original style of the show was not anime.

Unless someone wants to tell me that everything animated is now considerd anime.

anime is a style.

VS

[Lantyssa]

anime is a style.

No, it's animation.  From Japan.

(You can maybe quibble about being Anime from Japan for Japan.  It's still just Japanese cartoons though.  There is no style as it covers everything.)

[Mrbloodworth]

anime is a style.

No, it's animation.  From Japan.

(You can maybe quibble about being Anime from Japan for Japan.  It's still just Japanese cartoons though.  There is no style as it covers everything.)

English, main dictionary sources define anime as "a Japanese style of motion-picture animation" or "a style of animation developed in Japan".

It most definitely is a style. A Technique even (Falling under the category of Limited animation), if you will. But not all things animated are anime, regardless of there use of the word in japan. Regardless, most sane people would not agree with you, even more so if they are artists. This whole "Everything animated is animie" Concept only came about when it started becoming pop culture in the western world. You dont need to take my word for it, ask any art professer... Its a style, and a sub genre of Animation.

Sorry.

I even lifted this from wikipedia, since its being used as an authoritative source for this thread. 

Animation technique

    Main article: Animation

The basics of anime is based on traditional animation. While anime is considered separate from cartoons, anime still uses multiple still images in rapid succession to produce the animated visual effect. Like all animation, the production processes of storyboarding, voice acting, character design, cel production, etc. still apply. With improvements in computer technology, computer animation increased the efficiency of the whole production process.

Anime is often considered a form of limited animation. That means that stylistically, even in bigger productions the conventions of limited animation are used to fool the eye into thinking there is more movement than there is.[1] Many of the techniques used a comprised with cost-cutting measures while working under a set budget.

Anime scenes place emphasis on achieving three-dimensional views. Backgrounds depict the scenes' atmosphere.[1] For example, anime often puts emphasis on changing seasons, as can be seen in numerous anime, such as Tenchi Muyo. Sometimes actual settings have been duplicated into an anime. The backgrounds for the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya are based on various locations within the suburb of Nishinomiya, Hyogo, Japan.[22]

Camera angles, camera movement, and lighting play an important role in scenes. Directors often have the discretion of determining viewing angles for scenes, particularly regarding backgrounds. In addition, camera angles show perspective. [23] Directors can also choose camera effects within cinematography, such as panning, zooming, facial closeup, and panoramic.[24] Lighting effects are used in conjunction with camera effects. For additional three-dimensional effects, various shades of lighting are used.[citation needed]

I will even direct you to this.

[Hoax]

 

Google seyz:  Bloodworth WRONG!@!!

http://brianscache.com/unseen/



Anyways, this thread was bad, next thing you know I was on /m/ @ work and going anywhere near 4chan while at work is a bad bad bad idea.  Let me be clear, the point is while "anime" is used to mean overly sleek stylized robots to teh intrawebs there are plenty of anime that use bulkier more realistic looking rides.  So basically, those transformers look ghey, somebody obviously told them to do it in that fugly style.  That doesn't mean all anime looks like that.

[Mrbloodworth]

Google seyz:  Bloodworth WRONG!@!!

http://brianscache.com/unseen/



Anyways, this thread was bad, next thing you know I was on /m/ @ work and going anywhere near 4chan while at work is a bad bad bad idea.

Uh, using robotech to say im wrong is the amusing part.

Art School says im right.

[Hoax]

When did people around here start thinking that referencing meatspace credentials/friends/anecdotes automagikally proves they can't be wrong on a given subject?  Go give Broughden a handjob and fuck off with that logic.  Art school says you are right?  You went to art school?  You've been inside of one?  Your best buddy's refrigerator repairman's girlfriend works for MoMa?  I care?  Wtf.

[geldonyetich2]

I, for one, can see the irony of this.  The original Transformers cartoon was made in Japan and Korea and stylized to look somewhat western.  This Transformers Animated cartoon is being produced here, in the United States, the characters were likely designed to look that way before they were sent overseas to be animated.

And here's the Spike equivilent we get this time around:


Could have fooled me, Mrs. Strong, she looks like some kind of muppet!

[stray]

"Unanimated anime" had a word for it too: Manga. Which is what the "style" of anime cartoons are all mostly based on.

Now all of the sudden the medium that is largely an adaptation of manga literature is the word to describe the artwork of manga itself? Doesn't make sense.

Anime is just animation -- just like the word itself would suggest

[Mrbloodworth]

I, for one, can see the irony of this.  The original Transformers cartoon was made in Japan and Korea and stylized to look somewhat western.  This Transformers Animated cartoon is being produced here, in the United States, the characters were likely designed to look that way before they were sent overseas to be animated.

I honestly don't care, what i do care about is the use of the term to describe all animation, becouse its incorrect.

As far as the characters being styled in the US to adopt the look of animie (Previously referred to as japanimation) is simply an adoption of a style, just like it was the reverse for the original show.

I understand the word originated from a translation for animation. However in practice Animie (and manga) is a reference to a style of animation in most art circles.

Anime (アニメ, Anime?) pronounced [anime] listen (help·info) in Japanese, but typically pronounced /ˈænɪmeɪ/ or /ˈænɪmə/ in English is an abbreviation of the word "animation". Outside Japan, the term most popularly refers to cartoons originating from Japan; and from the Occidental point of view, not all cartoons are considered anime. Anime is therefore usually considered to be a subset of animation.

You are all quite free to disagree with me, And yes, i went to art school.

[geldonyetich2]

Hurray, more semantic quibbling. 

I think Strong Bad put it best.

[stray]

My family is full of artists. Some rich and famous (as much as one could be these days). I am unfortunately employed in the field from time to time. I'm not so bad myself either.

It also doesn't matter.

[Mrbloodworth]

My family is full of artists. Some rich and famous (as much as one could be these days). I am unfortunately employed in the field from time to time. I'm not so bad myself either.

It also doesn't matter.

Ok, lets keep focusing on the fact i said i went to art school. w00t!


I'm not the ones focusing on it.I only brought it up, becouse this is what animie is classified as when your study different art styles, specifically animation.

[geldonyetich2]

My point (wait - I make points now?) My point was that it doesn't particularly matter what you call it, just look at it - that's heavily Japanese animation inspired, much like the Teen Titans before it.

Of course, this is just a sign of the times.

[stray]

My family is full of artists. Some rich and famous (as much as one could be these days). I am unfortunately employed in the field from time to time. I'm not so bad myself either.

It also doesn't matter.

Ok, lets keep focusing on the fact i said i went to art school. w00t!


I'm not the ones focusing on it.I only brought it up, becouse this is what animie is classified as when your study different art styles, specifically animation.

Well whatever..

I do agree that it isn't a term that shouldn't be applied to everything.

WHATEVER HAPPENED TO CARTOONS?

[Mrbloodworth]

My point (wait - I make points now?) My point was that it doesn't particularly matter what you call it, just look at it - that's heavily Japanese animation inspired, much like the Teen Titans before it.

Of course, this is just a sign of the times.

I agree. Have agreed, and will still agree. Just like i agree that the original cartoon was just that, a western (styled) cartoon. Simply becouse it was shipped off to japan or Korea does not make it anime, anime is a style in my book.

[Hoax]

Uh, using robotech to say im wrong is the amusing part.

Art School says im right.

If you looked at that link, or if you knew dick about Robotech/Battletech/anime you would know that every 'mech design in Battletech (DECIDEDLY WESTERN ROBOTS) was ripped directly from Robotech (JAPANESE ANIMATION AKA ANIME) which I was trying to show proves that while people -myself included- use the word anime as an adjective to describe a loose set of styles (big eyes, small mouths, SD comedy, sweat drops, magical girls, stylish skinny robots, crazy hair, colored hair, moe and countless other things) that its really a bullshit term when used that way and that using it to define a type of giant robot was silly and ignored some great anime series that had very western robots...

Anime as an adjective = an internet thing

[Margalis]

The original Transformers cartoon was made in Japan and Korea and stylized to look somewhat western.

All the characters were designed and initially drawn by US artists. Most animation is actually produced in Japan and Korea, including stuff like The Simpsons. The individual animators are not important, what is important is the art design. The original Transformers, while animated by Asians, was very much a US production.

I've seen some clips of the new one, it looks better in motion. Very similar to Teen Titans.

[stray]

I can't watch Teen Titans, but damn that theme song is really catchy!

[lamaros]

I agree. Have agreed, and will still agree. Just like i agree that the original cartoon was just that, a western (styled) cartoon. Simply becouse it was shipped off to japan or Korea does not make it anime, anime is a style in my book.

Get this retard into the politics forum, stat!

[rk47]

Anime or not, it looks like shit.