Funny picture thread

[Teleku]

Well, the slogan is true.  Graphic Designers actually make a lot of money.

[HaemishM]

Not until they are established enough to be a name in their market. Until then, it's a long time dry humping whatever work you can find and a constant resizing of some idiot client's logo.

[Teleku]

I don't know, maybe its changed now.  But most of the people I know who majored in graphic design where able to get good paying jobs right out of college working for web design and/or tech companies.  It was practically a tech degree at my school.

[Merusk]

Not until they are established enough to be a name in their market. Until then, it's a long time dry humping whatever work you can find and a constant resizing of some idiot client's logo.

My firm made over 9 mil doing that last year alone and it's not even our specialty.  That's nothing to sneeze at.

[HaemishM]

I don't know, maybe its changed now.  But most of the people I know who majored in graphic design where able to get good paying jobs right out of college working for web design and/or tech companies.  It was practically a tech degree at my school.

And when was that? Because unless you are in a big market AND an established name, graphic design (not interior design) is grunt work being done by fewer people (more with less). The advertising field in particular over the last 6 years has shit the bed, with big name firms shuttering up and lots of designers getting laid off and turning to freelance work.

[Chimpy]

So glad my major was not listed (and surprised a bit too).

[rk47]

[Merusk]

I don't know, maybe its changed now.  But most of the people I know who majored in graphic design where able to get good paying jobs right out of college working for web design and/or tech companies.  It was practically a tech degree at my school.

And when was that? Because unless you are in a big market AND an established name, graphic design (not interior design) is grunt work being done by fewer people (more with less). The advertising field in particular over the last 6 years has shit the bed, with big name firms shuttering up and lots of designers getting laid off and turning to freelance work.

Uh.. that's ALL firms over the last 6 years. The recession hit late and has only begun to recover on the other side in the last few years. There's several major rebrandings in the works and being turned out now that GDs and Design firms in general have been able to make money off of.  That said, you're right, you need to work for a firm or at least with local businesses.  Dunkin' Donuts, Breuger's Bagels and P&G aren't going to Joe's Graphic & Web Design shack for their Graphic Design needs.

[Teleku]

This was about 10 to 8'ish years ago.  I have no doubt that the recession made it harder (like for everbody since then), but I'm still willing to bet it shouldn't be hard for a grad to pull a job (as long as they are willing to relocate to major tech centers that is).  Web is still going strong, and programmers still cant draw.  You can get a well paying job at a small to medium sized web firm, which will have steady work doing everything thats not Dunkin' Donuts.  And I imagine the major ones are large enough they still need to hire lots of people to do grunt work.  I also remember at least two people from my university with graphic design degrees who got jobs at game companies.  

This is all going from personal experience obviously, but it seems like a very solid degree from everything I've seen.  There will always be a need for people who can draw commercially on electronic mediums.  Programmers and buisness majors will continue to be unable to draw worth shit.

[Merusk]

The relocation is the thing that probably gets people.  We have an advantage that there's a few major corporate HQ here, and use to have another in that CVG was a hub for years. However, we were denied work several times because we didn't have an office presence in NYC, Chicago or LA.  Big clients want you to be at their beck and call, able to pop-in to the execs office at a moment's notice.  Sucks but it's the rules of the design industry, from Graphics to Architecture. You're the bitch.

[Teleku]

Ah, true.  I've pretty much studied, lived, and worked in the middle of major tech areas my entire life.  I often forget Google isn't just down the street for the majority of Americans.

Though maybe after two years in west Africa my world view will become more balanced.  

[taolurker]

Not the work or degree thread, and as funny as an image of text is, not something we should discuss for pages.

[HaemishM]

Ah, true.  I've pretty much studied, lived, and worked in the middle of major tech areas my entire life.  I often forget Google isn't just down the street for the majority of Americans.

Note I said "in the bigger markets." If you aren't in LA, Chicago, NY or one of the major centers of a particular industry, you are an utter bitch to whatever work you can find in graphic design. And guess what, if you aren't an utter rockstar with a CV as long as your arm, you aren't getting relocation package money.

[Sky]

http://imgur.com/gallery/iJD8f

[Rendakor]

Great read Sky. Gonna be lurking /b/ all night for an ending now.

[KallDrexx]

[Lantyssa]

Scary territory when Adobe Reader solves problems...

[Phildo]

Installing Adobe Reader is now a meme in my office.

[calapine]

Well written, but I have a hard time believing it's true. Shame.

[Merusk]

Things on 4chan are as true as Penthouse forum letters.

[Khaldun]

Actually some of it is pretty believable. Back in the dark ages thirty years ago or so I was working an office job for a consumer products company part-time while I was working on my doctoral degree, and I basically ended up being asked to do all the computer-related stuff in the Windows 3.1 office I was in because none of them had the faintest idea how to make them run. (One of the things they had was a system that read Scantron tests and dumped the answers into a database, and the market researchers in my office were roughly as clueless about all aspects of that system as a Neanderthal would be about driving an M-1 tank.) So after a while I started realizing that the inter-office network there was behaving really weirdly--it would just shut down for no reason, and there were lots of other odd behaviors. So eventually I caught up with the one IT guy they had, who was responsible for maintaining everything there. (I think there were about 50-75 employees or so total--sales, market research, distribution, a small product research lab, etc., but not everybody had their own desktop or needed access to the inter-office network.)  We talked off and on over the next few weeks, and he had me come to his office one day. He was just turning off the network or fouling it up occasionally on purpose so that he could "fix" it and make a big show of working hard. Most days he was just bored.

[Ingmar]

Dangerous game to play. Most places will want a post-mortem on the outage and after the 2nd one will start to question if they could replace you with someone who could build a stable network.

[Khaldun]

This was back in the early 1990s. All you had to say was "The Windows 3.1 ultrastacker conflicted with the sysop prioritization grid, and the resulting upload matrix caused the warp coils to emit tetryonic interference. It's happening at most offices in the last few weeks." This was a small branch of a big multinational in a medium-sized US city, and in some ways computers were just the thing that the home office had given you a budget for and that in some cases you still had your secretary use for stuff that was essentially duplicating a typewriter. There were only three or four people on staff who regularly used interoffice email. Before I got there, the market researchers had just been entering the Scantron results of their studies by hand into paperwork forms, since they didn't know how to calibrate the reader and software that had been bought for them by HQ.

But yeah, my guess would be that as few as three or four years later he stopped being able to get away with it.

[rk47]

[climbjtree]

Sad to say, I recognize that guy from a totally different documentary about doll fetishists. Dammit.

[apocrypha]

His lips are saying something completely different from the subtitle. Looks like "Falafels inside" to me.

[calapine]

Even more interesting, why would a channel called The Learning Channel^[1]show this?


^[1]I i know sooooooo much about the US simply by watching The Daily Show regulary!

[Merusk]

They dropped the learning channn thing years ago and are now the trashy reality tv channel.  They weren't making enough money so they changed it like how the history channel is the bullshit conspiracy channel and sci fy is the b movie and wrestling channel.  Once money execs are involved it always happens. Education isn't hit and doesn't sell.  It's only for nerds and foreigners

[Margalis]

I always laugh at the 30 Rock line "I remember when Bravo used to air operas."

I think after "Queer Eye" was a hit at Bravo most other cable channels realized the money was in trash programming.

Sadly SyFy has pretty much abandoned the SyFy movie of the week thing. They used to have a new trashy movie every Saturday. Now they just show old genre movies. I guess shooting $2 million movies in Bulgaria wasn't as profitable as they hoped.

[rk47]

[Sky]

There should be a rule that once you've completely gutted a channel's programming and changed direction, you have to lose the name. Learning Channel, MTV, etc

[Lantyssa]

 

[kaid]

There should be a rule that once you've completely gutted a channel's programming and changed direction, you have to lose the name. Learning Channel, MTV, etc

This show is brought to you by Fetal Alcohol Syndrome and sadness.

[Cyrrex]

That horrible example of humanity is making a KILLING off of her 15 minutes.  My wife has that on sometimes, and there seems to be nothing I can do about it. 

[satael]

Reality tv is cheap to make and gets a large enough audience so the channels are happy to churn out whatever seems to be stupid/outrageous enough to get the public's audience for a moment. The sad thing is that it will only die out once tv finally gives way as the medium to internet when it comes to human stupidity (though that might have already happened).