Star Trek Online - "Boldly going where Everyone has gone before"

[Mrbloodworth]

mpogd

Really was hoping for a more "world" game, than a liner EQ (ETC) clone...

[Modern Angel]

Surprise = none.

Close in two years, people wonder why, dev team says they learned some valuable lessons about making a new game and the experience will serve them well on the next one, team cranks out another diku... fucking yawn.

[Jobu]

LFM Engineers, Borg raid, err... armada.

[Driakos]

When they say, "everyone gets their own ship" they mean it.  You won't be cruising around with your friends on one ship.  You'll be a pack of ships.  I would rather have a guild own the ship, with someone appointed captain, and other members in various roles, than the "tank" ship, the "healer" ship, etc.  Run missions on increasingly larger NPC ships, until you can save up enough on your own (or communally) to purchase a ship.

[Hoax]

This sounds so generic Diku it hurts.  I vote we never speak of this game again.  Also this reviewer probably isn't even that bad of a fanboi considering it is Star Trek.

[Viin]

Surprise = none.

Close in two years, people wonder why, dev team says they learned some valuable lessons about making a new game and the experience will serve them well on the next one, team cranks out another diku... fucking yawn.

You forget, it's not the dev's who pay their own paychecks.

[Driakos]

Make. Something. Different.

Remember that episode where Kirk, Bones, Spock, Sulu, and Scotty, flew their pack of ships to lower Neutral Zone, and camped some Romulans? Scotty forgot to repair, so the group broke up early. One of my favorites.

[Numtini]

This is going to flop. Hard.

[SnakeCharmer]

Make. Something. Different.

Won't be anything different for a good long while, if ever.

[Soln]

This is going to flop. Hard.

It won't be what people hope for, but I bet it will get by.  People eat and watch and play the same crap all the time.  Makes life more certain. 


I presume there's no PvP?

[Driakos]

I presume there's no PvP?

The article said they plan on having various forms of consensual PvP.

[Nevermore]

I presume there's no PvP?

The article said they plan on having various forms of consensual PvP.

Nerf Romulans.

[Kaa]

I presume there's no PvP?

The interview said there'll be FFA servers (though I've seen companies change their mind about things like this before). Otherwise it's all "consensual", aka duelling.

Kaa

[HaemishM]

Oh, for fuck's sake. That sounds so goddamn uniteresting I think my uvula just dropped out of my anus.

Why? Why make another shitty diku with Klingon skins? So we can all get together in one big player city alpha class starship and yif each other to death in our Ponfar Sadie Hawkins Geek Dance?

Surely SOMEONE at Perpetual can think beyond MAGE shuttles and TANK shuttles. I mean, goddamnit, there are more interesting game designs on the inside of my fucking colon. Based on Perpetual's vidoes for Gods and Heroes, I can't imagine their Star Trek game is going to look anymore inspiring. It's a goddamn crime just how much money they are flushing down the Diku toilet on this one. It'll probably limp into profitability, maybe hovering between 100-200k subs.

The only good thing about their design is that they chose to set it 25 years after the last shittastic Trek movie. No crew of the Enterprise to fuck up the 4th wall.

[Mrbloodworth]

Like i said, this IP had potential for a more "Worldly" (Sandbox?) game, and war (PvP).

Its a shame, and no player ship interiors (Other than hubs, and "Boarding" instances)..ill never understand why...there is already a nice precedent. (SWG:JTL).

[Falwell]

This one screams shameless IP cash in with retread content.

[BigBlack]

I have a modest (but serious) proposal.

Puzzle Pirates is all 2D graphics, right?

I say we do a reskin of Puzzle Pirates to make it Star Trek.

Really, wouldn't all the game mechanics correspond nicely to Star Trek if you think about it?  The ocean is space, the cities are spaceports, islands are planets, battles with cannons = photon torpedoes, etc. etc.  The different job stations on a PP ship correspond nicely to the stations on the bridge in ST.

We then put our reskinned Star Trek Puzzle Pirates up against whatever this half-baked Star Trek Online comes up with in a few years.

I'd bet that ours will not only be more fun, it'll better evoke the feeling of Star Trek than STO will.

[Soln]

Like Stargate, this would've been an awesome franchise for squad instanced combat.  Every planetary away mission could be a new zone.  Oh wells.

[Arthur_Parker]

Is the old AC2 lead dev Citan still working on this?

[Morat20]

Like Stargate, this would've been an awesome franchise for squad instanced combat.  Every planetary away mission could be a new zone.  Oh wells.

I got the impression the SG-1 game was looking something like that, in fact, but frankly all I've heard is pretty mcuh early-design hand-waving about all the coolness, and some basic artwork.

I'm hoping it'll be that twitchy RPG PvP-fest that schlid so desperately needs, because it's an IP that works for it really well.

Which means it'll probably be all PvE with some PvP thrown in at the last minute.

[schild]

So, I was right. Word.

[SnakeCharmer]

Like Stargate, this would've been an awesome franchise for squad instanced combat.  Every planetary away mission could be a new zone.  Oh wells.

I got the impression the SG-1 game was looking something like that, in fact, but frankly all I've heard is pretty mcuh early-design hand-waving about all the coolness, and some basic artwork.

I'm hoping it'll be that twitchy RPG PvP-fest that schlid so desperately needs, because it's an IP that works for it really well.

Which means it'll probably be all PvE with some PvP thrown in at the last minute.

It's an exercise in frustration reading those forums.  CME has been tossing out concept art and advertising it as screenshots, which has for whatever reason, gotten under my skin to no end - I guess mostly because the foozles that make up their forums don't know any better.  Example:

"That's not a screenshot, it's concept art"
"If it's actual artwork to be used in the game, it's a screenshot!"
"No it's not.  It's concept art.  You don't call architectural blueprints a building, do you?"
"But it's a screenshot of concept art!"

I really hate their forums, but for whatever reason, I'm drawn to them like a moth to a flame.

They've advertised a mid/late '08 launch, but Schild seems to think MAYBE '09 to '10.

[Drogo]

It doesn't matter when it launches, 08. 09, 10... it will be a failure.

[tazelbain]

That is some funny shit.  Some people are eager to follow in steps of Auto Assault. Shame though, I really liked Star Trek.

[SnakeCharmer]

It doesn't matter when it launches, 08. 09, 10... it will be a failure.

Maybe.  Maybe not.  What little information they've given about the game seems fun.  Sidestepping the idea/exection of said idea thing, if they pull it off the way they say they are designing it, it could be fun.  They don't seem to have alot of developers with MMO experience, which may or may not be a good thing.  Alot of their guys seem to have quite a bit of single player FPS type experience. 

[tazelbain]

It's like Bonzi Kitten.

[WindupAtheist]

Starships = player cities would have been awesome, if only those player city starships could fly around and pew pew.  At first I thought that's what they meant and got exicted.  Then I realized not.  Oh well.

[Tannhauser]

I'm gonna start a tribble mine!

[Darniaq]

I don't think anyone's surprised. This whole project was started as a press release, then a staffing up, then the design began. Something like 18 months elapsed between PR and design. So that a major IP that may enjoy some sort of renaissance soon (at least in the hopes of Paramount) devolves into Wookiees Klingons in Space is both predictable and, personally, maybe not all that bad an idea.

The formula works. It provides short and long term goals. Add in Classes to clearly define roles. Add in space flight mechanics and what you may get is something just unique enough to be marketable that way but approachable enough for anyone who's ever liked WoW.

Innovation is for risk-takers, and risk-takers don't generally get massive 40-year-old licenses to play with.

[naum]

I'm only playing if the ship elevators make that nifty open/close sound…

[Triforcer]

Will there be any hairdressing ships and dancing ships that other ships need to watch dance to restore their shields? 

[BigBlack]

Innovation is for risk-takers, and risk-takers don't generally get massive 40-year-old licenses to play with.

But that worked out so well the last time!

[Darniaq]

Heh. SWG: F13's very own Godwin's Law :)

I'm only playing if the ship elevators make that nifty open/close sound…

"Well, get the lights to blink in order!"

[WindupAtheist]

Will there be any hairdressing ships and dancing ships that other ships need to watch dance to restore their shields? 

I LOL'd.

[CharlieMopps]

They are taking a bad game... sticking the name "Star trek" on it... and hoping it makes money. Good luck with that. Why the hell can't they make a decent mmo anymore? Do they only hire retards to develop these things anymore?