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schild
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Reply #770 on: October 24, 2007, 09:46:57 AM

Mules enhances a diablo style game. Any other style it fails hard. I love organizing guys by their items instead of by their class. It gave them... reason to exist.

Tabula Rasa fails because it's a shitty game and even harder because he needs mule for dyes and it's not even a diablo game.

However, it's nice that they let you add some color to that "brown is real" world.

I still miss the TR design with harps and unicorns and shit.
bhodi
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Reply #771 on: October 24, 2007, 09:52:55 AM

OK, so you're broken.
You're basically saying a band-aid that was created to work around bad game design is itself now part of the design, and is a good thingroflcopter

How about fixing the problem that caused it to crop up in the first place.

Edit: Especially because it's crafting materials, as you say.
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Reply #772 on: October 24, 2007, 09:59:00 AM

There is a point in schild's comment about the inventory-management metagame in a D2 clone, but using alternate characters as storage is indeed a workaround for a bad design.  What schild should be paying for is extra locker storage, not extra character slots where the characters are merely ambulatory storage crates.

Also part of the inventory-management metagame is the limit on it.  There's not much metagame there when your storage in infinite.

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lesion
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Reply #773 on: October 24, 2007, 10:01:03 AM

anyone notice if that partition in the stash inventory window means anything? like global storage or something. I need to test that when I get home.

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Reply #774 on: October 24, 2007, 10:16:35 AM

Wait, are there dyes in HGL?
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Reply #775 on: October 24, 2007, 10:18:16 AM

Wait, are there dyes in HGL?

Dye kits. Its an item you get from preordering the game from specific places. You put the dye kit in a special inventory slot and it gives you that color scheme.
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Reply #776 on: October 24, 2007, 10:26:42 AM

There are dye kits outside the preordered ones.  Not sure if they are loot, crafted or both.  One dye kit placed in its' own slot on your inventory screen affects all the pieces you are wearing.  You won't need to find multiple dyes for each piece of armor.
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Reply #777 on: October 24, 2007, 10:32:20 AM

You can download it now.  I guess you just can't play it yet.  It must be like the Bioshock stuff.

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Reply #778 on: October 24, 2007, 10:44:41 AM

Tabula Rasa fails because it's a shitty game and even harder because he needs mule for dyes and it's not even a diablo game.

Your logic is flawless, I am in awe.
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Reply #779 on: October 24, 2007, 11:05:05 AM

My grammar was shit. I am in awe. Posting early in the morning hurts.
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Reply #780 on: October 24, 2007, 12:38:44 PM

Thanks a lot for invite sam!
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Reply #781 on: October 24, 2007, 12:43:30 PM

Hate to do this but if anyone has ANOTHER spare lying around I'd be obliged. My wife is shooting me dirty looks.
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Reply #782 on: October 24, 2007, 12:48:18 PM

Wouldn't umm.. beta be over now?  If not.. I just got one the other day. I guess my regular application finally got accepted.

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Reply #783 on: October 24, 2007, 12:51:34 PM

US beta ends Friday. I will scoot you an invite Modern.

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Reply #784 on: October 24, 2007, 12:52:56 PM

Thank you sir. modrnangel AT gmail.com

And beta ends Friday with a character wipe only to REOPEN on Monday for a week so people who bought it or preordered can play; those characters are wiped next Friday. It's essentially early access.
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Reply #785 on: October 24, 2007, 12:54:32 PM

Wait, what?  Wipe on Nov 2?

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Reply #786 on: October 24, 2007, 12:55:25 PM

Thank you sir. modrnangel AT gmail.com
PMed it :p

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Reply #787 on: October 24, 2007, 12:58:35 PM

If there's a wipe on november 2nd, i will go apeshit.
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Reply #788 on: October 24, 2007, 01:00:13 PM

Wait, what?  Wipe on Nov 2?

Nope.  Level cap of 22 still in effect until your copy of hgl arrives.  Then your avatar is moved to your permanent account.
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Reply #789 on: October 24, 2007, 01:01:29 PM

Ah, so I can start playing Monday. Hot.
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Reply #790 on: October 24, 2007, 01:03:17 PM

I was pretty sure I had misread that or Modern was typing funny while thinking of bee guns.  I mean, that didn't sound right.

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Reply #791 on: October 24, 2007, 01:06:41 PM

Here's the official propaganda post from fss.

Howdy folks. Just want to give you all a heads-up with a few Beta updates. First, the US Beta will be ending this Friday at 10:00AM PST. This will include a full character wipe. Yeah, I know some of you didn't get to play as long as others, but the final game will be out in the US just a few days later.

That said, some time just before launch (don't have a specific time/date yet), we'll actually be opening the Beta server back up for about a week. "This makes no sense, Kaiser!" Well, maybe not at first, but not everyone will be able to get the game on launch day for various reasons. This way, if you're in the Beta and are still waiting for your game to arrive, you'll still be able to play Hellgate. Also, the characters you create during this time will transfer over into your retail account. Once this happens, any caps/restrictions will be lifted. Yay! The characters will still have the Beta caps on them (such as level caps and such), but you can at least get started with your characters.

Hmm, what else. Oh yeah. You might see a new server environment pop up. This is mostly for testing the Patch 0 features internally, though some of you might be able to see it. There's no guarantee you'll see it, but if you do, at least you'll know what's going on. Also, this is important: if you do see it and get access to it, any characters used on this server will be duplicates, so any changes that occur to your character will not be reflected on the "normal" servers, and vice versa.

Lastly, we'll be starting a European Beta sometime soon. This will be short and to the point, mainly as a last check on our servers. We'll be sending out invites to a select group of Europeans. If this includes you, please, try it out. Though the game will be the same as the current US Beta, one, we need you all to help us ensure the Euro servers are perfect, and two, you can get your European account name before everyone else. Worth it, right? ^_^

Thanks everyone!



I was pretty sure I had misread that or Modern was typing funny while thinking of bee guns.  I mean, that didn't sound right.



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Reply #792 on: October 24, 2007, 01:19:10 PM

With the problems they have had so far there is at least a 50% chance of that beta character->live character transfer having major problems.

That's still pretty good though, I thought I wouldn't be able to play at all while my box gets shipped here.
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Reply #793 on: October 24, 2007, 01:25:15 PM

You can start playing then and keep your character for the full game, but well, I wouldn't. The full game has cinematics, voiceacting and of course the solid gold jesus patch "zero" which makes some rather large changes including fixing the currently entirely broken engineer class, diversifying the acts, and so on.
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Reply #794 on: October 24, 2007, 01:51:10 PM

The transfer they did from the alpha server to the beta server didn't have any problems iirc.

I see this as a great way to get your names reserved.
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Reply #795 on: October 24, 2007, 02:08:51 PM

Well, color me surprised.  I went to log into the test center server, it downloaded a huge patch. More effects, more colorful, faster load times. Looks like there was a magic patch after all.
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Reply #796 on: October 24, 2007, 02:11:51 PM

I ONLY held faith in Flagship because of the blizzard network and graphics programmers they stole. To be fair, I think every signle Blizzard game including WoW has had a magic patch at launch or around launch. ESPECIALLY Blizzard North's Diablo 1 and 2.
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Reply #797 on: October 24, 2007, 02:25:20 PM

Yeah, I misspoke. Multitasking. Wipe on Friday, servers come back up and it's treated like a preview where your toons get transferred over.
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Reply #798 on: October 24, 2007, 02:26:11 PM

I'm not going to PLAY until Magic Patch is live BUT I'm going to log in Monday and reserve as many names as it'll let me.
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Reply #799 on: October 24, 2007, 02:27:00 PM

WoW had an amazing closed beta. No magic patch there.
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Reply #800 on: October 24, 2007, 02:40:53 PM

WoW had an amazing closed beta. No magic patch there.

The entire beta until the day of launch, I had horrible tearing (on new drivers). On launch day they magically went away with the first patch. That's a fucking magic patch, IMO. I don't care how small the population affected was. Also, none of the text boxes lined up.



Look at the map lining up and the text. Least of my problems.
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Reply #801 on: October 24, 2007, 02:43:33 PM

I'm not going to PLAY until Magic Patch is live BUT I'm going to log in Monday and reserve as many names as it'll let me.

If you subscribe, that would be 24.  You can have Signe, by the way.

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Reply #802 on: October 24, 2007, 02:44:37 PM

I was going to log on and take all your names.
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Reply #803 on: October 24, 2007, 02:44:58 PM

Signe, You're not playing? :(
Signe
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Reply #804 on: October 24, 2007, 02:46:17 PM

Of course I am.  It just would be nice to see someone besides me with that name.  I've NEVER had a problem getting it, even years after something launches.  It's insulting.

PS  I've actually just finished the early download.

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