Hellgate London Alpha

[Yegolev]

I didn't know TR was very looty.  I thought it was battlegroundy and MOG-item-progressiony?

[MrHat]

So wait, 24th of October huh? That's tomorrow.

[lesion]

The thing is the icon only lit up when i hit a station and turned in the quest, not when i completed it.  So you would have to be lucky to zone into a station with a completed quest right as you get the quest icon.

I misread your post, my bad. sounds like a bug!

[Salamok]

Thanks for actually posting, as opposed to the 9 other people that didn't bother. Pfft.

you mean guest?  I still have another invite that is good if anyone needs it just post here.

[Typhon]

Dear Signe 
   
Thank you for ordering on EA Store (US). The date when the product that you Pre-Ordered will be released has been changed. 
The product listed below will now be available on October 24, 2007     
 
Product Name: Hellgate London (PC Downloadable)_MASTER     
 
If you have further questions regarding your order, please visit http://www.eastore.com and click on the Customer Service link located near the top of the page.   
   
Please note: This e-mail message was sent from a notification-only address that cannot accept incoming e-mail. Please visit support.ea.com to submit any further questions.   
     
Sincerely,   
     
EA Store (US) Customer Se

HAHA!  THEY'LL SHOW YOU WHO'S NOT FUCKING READY!!!

I bet what really happened here is this.  Someone at EA is typing this email up, giggling like an idiot, they are just getting through the "Se" in "Service", when their manager sees what's going on and tries to stop them, they abandon finishing the "Service" and quick click the "Send"!... and a legend is born!

[rattran]

I'm running an 8800gts c2d6420 4gig ram and vista x64. Everything is turned all the way up except weather (off) and dx10 smoke (off) Both together dropped my fps from ~60 to ~30. I haven't bothered to see which was the culprit. The smoke was pretty, but fuck rain. If I wanted weather, I wouldn't be sitting on my ass in front of the box playing games.

I'm digging the game, dunno if I'll subscribe, but it's worth the $50 to me. Maybe it'll stop me having to dig out all those d2 discs every 9 months or so to get a loot fix.

[Trippy]

I didn't know TR was very looty.  I thought it was battlegroundy and MOG-item-progressiony?

TR is very looty. Late in the Beta they increased drop rates by literally an order of magnitude (apparently the Bane gained an appreciation for paint mixes, among other things) and in fact it's too looty now given that they didn't increase the amount of storage.



Yes I have a mule character just to store all my paint recipes.

[angry.bob]

So the game is coming out in the morning? Huh?

[Modern Angel]

So the game is coming out in the morning? Huh?

Preload, I bet.

Alright, I just got a gun that shoots fucking bees. Do you understand me? A gun. That shoots. Bees. Heat seeking bees.

[Modern Angel]

Yeah, double checked. Preload.

[Ratman_tf]

Because the people that like it aren't on some crusade to make those that don't like it, like it.  It's not for everyone.  If you really liked D2, and especially D1 (the loot, the randomness, the quick gratification), you'll like this.  If you got tired of D2 and aren't interested in going back, you won't.

I've spend the last few days playing the original Diablo due to a network crash at work.

That game is fucking fun to dust off and play since I don't remember when. It has some kind of feel that even D2 seems to lack.

[Venkman]

Late in the Beta they increased drop rates by literally an order of magnitude (apparently the Bane gained an appreciation for paint mixes, among other things) and in fact it's too looty now given that they didn't increase the amount of storage.

Didn't they eventually stack the paint? I wiped my drive a month and a half ago and couldn't be bothered to reinstall TR, so been at least that long.

[Trippy]

You can't really see from the screenshot but the paint is stacked. The problem is that each "color" has three variations, Dark, Normal, and Bright, which is why you see 3 of each (except for Azure, the Bane are apparently hording that for themselves) on the screenshot.

[schild]

So the game is coming out in the morning? Huh?

Preload, I bet.

Alright, I just got a gun that shoots fucking bees. Do you understand me? A gun. That shoots. Bees. Heat seeking bees.

I
HAVE
WANTED
A
GUN
THAT
SHOOTS
BEES
SINCE
1997
I
AM
NOT
KIDDING
EXCITEMENT
FROTH
ADVENTURE
HELLGATE
LONDON
NEEDS
ME

[Venkman]

You can't really see from the screenshot but the paint is stacked. The problem is that each "color" has three variations, Dark, Normal, and Bright, which is why you see 3 of each (except for Azure, the Bane are apparently hording that for themselves) on the screenshot.

Jeezus that's retarded. Like the most important thing to do in TR is coordinate your color palette. I hope they spent no more time on developing it than what was there when I arrived in February.

[squirrel]

Hrm. I wasn't in the beta, so my first exposure was the demo. I was way underwhelmed, for all the reasons listed here. One day later I get a beta key (yesterday) and so I uninstall the demo and install the beta. For some reason it's a way better game. Partially because I can chat, and partially because of the ability to try all the classes, but that's not the only reason. The beta performs WAY better on my machine than the demo did:

1.) In the Demo I had severe mouselag in the interface, not in the actual game, but in the options, inventory screens, quest screens. Basically anytime a 2D overlay was on the screen my mouse went fucking nuts. In the Beta I have 0 issues with this.

2.) In the Demo I had to turn all graphic effects to medium to avoid severe stuttering whenever there was particle effects. In the Beta I can run almost all of them at High and get really decent performance.

3.) In the Demo playing as a Marksman I was an absolute god. I never had to retreat or even worry about getting hurt, it was way too easy. So far in the beta as both a Marksman and an Evoker I've had to use health pots, retreat and generally be more aware.

Not saying there's any "Magic Internal Build" but I will say they released a total shite demo.

As for the Bee Gun - didn't Half-Life have a bee gun that shot homing bees?

[Samwise]

As for the Bee Gun - didn't Half-Life have a bee gun that shot homing bees?

It doesn't count unless it's in a game with shitty level design.

[schild]

As for the Bee Gun - didn't Half-Life have a bee gun that shot homing bees?

It doesn't count unless it's in a game with shitty level design.

I want to upgrade it to hornets.

[Samwise]

I want them to put snarks back into Half-Life.  The bug bomb thing was not as cool.

[schild]

oh god the bug bomb

i'd forgotten about it

just terrible

[Modern Angel]

Technically my gun in HG:L was a gun that shot wasps but I'm not going to quibble. I've been going on drunken rants for ten years about how the DOD just needs to make a gun that shoots bees and a robot that shoots tanks from its face and the world would be swell. Fuck, I went on a thirty minute speech about my bee gun just a month ago.

So when I got the wasp gun (which are actually bees and I don't give a fuck) much celebration was to be had.

Seconding the beta playing better. Way, WAY better. The DX10 client is absolutely shit though

[Tige]

I am so disappointed that marksman did not get bee grenades.  So disappointed.

[Signe]

Dear Signe 
   
Thank you for ordering on EA Store (US). The date when the product that you Pre-Ordered will be released has been changed. 
The product listed below will now be available on October 24, 2007     
 
Product Name: Hellgate London (PC Downloadable)_MASTER     
 
If you have further questions regarding your order, please visit http://www.eastore.com and click on the Customer Service link located near the top of the page.   
   
Please note: This e-mail message was sent from a notification-only address that cannot accept incoming e-mail. Please visit support.ea.com to submit any further questions.   
     
Sincerely,   
     
EA Store (US) Customer Se

HAHA!  THEY'LL SHOW YOU WHO'S NOT FUCKING READY!!!

The Kaiser said, "This is actually an error and not true in any way. Sorry! :P."  Beta ends with a wipe this Friday, though.  Unless that's an error and not true in any way.   

[Miasma]

Here's a situation I never really understood in this game and didn't want to post on their forums.

1) Your weapon does 100 fire damage.
2) You attach a mod which says "+10% electric damage"

Does that weapon now do 10 electric damage or is there zero increased damage because it wasn't doing electric damage to begin with?  I couldn't figure it out because there was no battle spam saying how much damage I did, the overall item ranking does indeed go up with the mod though...

Some skills also do the same thing, does the aura which gives +75% thorn damage do nothing if you aren't wearing armour with thorns?

[schild]

I can understand a weapon doing 10% more damage of electricity.

But armor doing 75% more of zero, well, you get it.

[Modern Angel]

Do you mean I can shoot electric bees with fireball eyes? Because ohgodohgodohgod

[schild]

Do you mean I can shoot electric bees with fireball eyes? Because ohgodohgodohgod

Don't even take it there. I'll get steamy.

[Tige]

Do you mean I can shoot electric bees with fireball eyes? Because ohgodohgodohgod

It's on test center now.

[schild]

That doesn't look ANYTHING like what we meant. In fact, what the fuck is that?

[Modern Angel]

That is not a bee made out of electricity flying out of a rifle with fire shooting out of its eyes.

[Tige]

That doesn't look ANYTHING like what we meant. In fact, what the fuck is that?

That is not a bee made out of electricity flying out of a rifle with fire shooting out of its eyes.

It's fireball eyes shooting bees! 

What it really is is me being home with my under the weather puppy bored off my ass.

The fire helm is one of the halloween trinkets.

[Yegolev]

Yes I have a mule character just to store all my paint recipes.

This is the single line that makes me want to play Tabular Raser.  Even if it means funding Garriott's backyard Ninja Warrior course replica.

[bhodi]

Yes I have a mule character just to store all my paint recipes.

This is the single line that makes me want to play Tabular Raser.  Even if it means funding Garriott's backyard Ninja Warrior course replica.

No! Goddammit! NO! BAD YEG! A game that constricts storage space so much that you have to have a second character to store your crafting crap in is a failed game. At no point should there be any need for a 'mule character'; the very fact people are creating them should be an indicator of a failure in the design.

[schild]

I'm paying for Hellgate because I'll need 24 mules. This is not their fault.

[bhodi]

What? It IS their fault! We are by nature pack rats and hoarders; people buy gigantic homes only so they can fill them with stuff. Online is no different.

There should be nigh-unlimited storage space per character back in town. Creation of mules should be highly discouraged, not only because it simplifies gameplay, streamlines the design, but also because it uses LESS storage space (you don't have extra character metadata cluttering up the database).