Hellgate London Alpha

[Venkman]

Its Massive; Battlefield , Planetside, Neocron, now Hellgate use it..i know there is more.

Anarchy Online.

[WayAbvPar]

Don't you love it when a plan comes together?

Ok, that made me snort water through my nose.

[Signe]

[Falwell]

OK so how many of you (fuck, we, I'm one of em too) hopeless cunts are gonna be at the midnight startup? I'll need someone to shoot the shit with when the servers go thermonuclear. Or on the slight chance they are up and running, people to run around and shoot shit with while I gorge myself on Bombay + Tonics along with leftover Junior Mints.

[Simond]

So with all that I'm not supposed to like this because I can't move while in my inventory screen, it has lag at player choke points and some awkward ui stuff? 

As far as all the ads and EA is out to get me stuff.  It is in the tinfoil hat phase right now, let's see what happens.

Or, to put it another way, it's Diablo 2 with a mediocre 3D engine, targetted in-game ads, and you have to pay $10/month to play the game to its fullest.

Also, on a couple of other boards I read the general consensus is that the game is not really ready for release and could use another 3-6 months in development. Which, if Blizzard North still existed, is what would have happened. Funny how Bill Roper et. al. left Blizzard to 'escape' the Tyrannical Iron Fist of Evil Vivendi Ownership and ended up having their game pushed out too early by EA.

Mythos is supposed to be quite fun nowadays, though. 

[Ironwood]

I think I got confused around page 1.

This game's wank, right ?

[Simond]

It's not even bad, it's just...okay. It's psuedo-D2 with an average 3D engine, a bad UI and an optional-but-not-really $10/m subs fee.

Boring. gg next map MMOG.

[Ironwood]

Ok, but people were positively hinting as GUSHDOM when there was an NDA.  Suddenly that drops and it's wank.

I don't get it.

[Typhon]

Because the people that like it aren't on some crusade to make those that don't like it, like it.  It's not for everyone.  If you really liked D2, and especially D1 (the loot, the randomness, the quick gratification), you'll like this.  If you got tired of D2 and aren't interested in going back, you won't.

All the other shit is just noise.  Stuff to point at because this game type just isn't for you.  Other then the cost of the box, you don't have to pay to play.

I agree that it's a couple months from being polished.  I hope that releasing early won't prevent it from ever reaching polished.

... but you already knew that.  Which leaves me wondering why I bothered to respond.

[Ironwood]

I loved D2. 

[Arrrgh]

How many of you doomsayers are running vista? It runs fine and looks great on my xp box, but it's a slow, crash ridden memory hog on my vista box.

[Modern Angel]

Running Vista but no issues except for the stupid slow mouse.

I think I've done almost a 180 on the game. After years of MMOs there's something refreshing about stripping all the bullshit and getting down to the visceral, primal core of the thing: kill, loot, explode, flash, no groups. It's not deep and it's not innovative but I had fun despite myself. Every fiber of my video game snob core wanted to hate this and I can't. And I can definitely see this being a blast multiplayer with scads of mobs everyhwere.

The clincher was my wife. I got called into work on Sunday. Told her to download HGL and see what she thought of it. Came back three hours later to find her cackling like an insane woman as she flung grenades everywhere.

[Miasma]

I'm running Vista and when I first launched the game my computer (8800gts, 4GB ram, Core 2 duo) came to a screeching halt, it took forever to drag the cursor over to options and turn down some of the settings.  I forget which particular change I made but afterwards everything ran just fine on Vista.

I like the "field" type weapons, launching a grenade that sets a 10' diameter on fire is great.  I think I like the game because it feels like I am cheating with god mode on.

[schild]

The item system is a nice evolution on Diablo 2.

I only played for maybe 10 hours total, but it was crash-free for me (XP Pro SP2, Core 2 Duo, etc etc), and I have a few days of vacation the day it comes out. My inner loot whore FROTHS.

[Modern Angel]

Yes, that. When my gun went from weenie peeshooter to ROCKET LAUNCHER THAT LEAVES FIRE ON THE FLOOR the game became very rad.

There's a vicious nvidia-vista bug that nobody can get a handle on. Some nvdksomething bug that will cause screen flicker and occasional crashes. Nobody has a good solution but I've gotten it. Something to bear in mind when there's a buggy game on Vista but not on XP.

[Tige]

Funny how Bill Roper et. al. left Blizzard to 'escape' the Tyrannical Iron Fist of Evil Vivendi Ownership and ended up having their game pushed out too early by EA.

This is one issue that really needs to just go away because it is just bullshit.  Developers are not some persecuted class of employees working in sweatshops under the whip of evil publishers.  Both sides equally capable of making some stupid decisions and agreements before, during and after a project.  Both sides have no problem in letting their mouth write checks their ass can't cash.

[taolurker]

Vista evilness here, very bad as I'm an Nvidia also.

The bugs though OMG the bugs.. Then the crashes, the lag, and concerns over server stability are my reasons for not liking it.

It could be a really good game, but 3-5 months. I highly doubt the server will stand the load, and I certainly wouldn't pay monthly to crash and burn, let alone to cut a waiting line to connect.

[Salamok]

I loved D2. 

Just download the beta and play it already.  I have gottenlike 3 invite a friend beta passes in the last 24 hours.  I am sure the f13 community as a whole has probably gotten hundreds of these.  If no one else has 1 to pass out I'll be happy to snag 1 back from 1 of the 3 ingrates who may never even download it and give it to you.

[schild]

Here's me caring about Vista:

It's your fault. Not theirs.

Adopting a Windows OS before SP1 is a choice. You chose... poorly.

[Modern Angel]

I would LOVE to have a beta invite if anyone has a spare.

[lesion]

1 to pass out

[Salamok]

It's not even bad, it's just...okay. It's psuedo-D2 with an average 3D engine, a bad UI and an optional-but-not-really $10/m subs fee.

Boring. gg next map MMOG.

I still wouldn't call this a MMOG, If it had a storyline you could follow and got rid of the annoyingly long quest conversations this game would blow d2 away.  Both of these could be implemented already and just not available to beta.

Oh yea a game manual (may be one on the beta forums but I avoid those) and some right mouse=repeat last action would be nice as well.

[Ixxit]

I would LOVE to have a beta invite if anyone has a spare.

PM me your email address, and I'll send you one.  I used the code for my pre order box, so I have a spare.

[Salamok]

Yes, that. When my gun went from weenie peeshooter to ROCKET LAUNCHER THAT LEAVES FIRE ON THE FLOOR the game became very rad.

There's a vicious nvidia-vista bug that nobody can get a handle on. Some nvdksomething bug that will cause screen flicker and occasional crashes. Nobody has a good solution but I've gotten it. Something to bear in mind when there's a buggy game on Vista but not on XP.

....

I would LOVE to have a beta invite if anyone has a spare.

are you in beta already or not?

[murdoc]

I've got three beta invites, if anyone wants one just PM me and I'll send you the link. Don't even need to forward you the email.

[Modern Angel]

Not in beta but will be. :D I have the demo. I got a rocket launcher

[Yegolev]

Funny how Bill Roper et. al. left Blizzard to 'escape' the Tyrannical Iron Fist of Evil Vivendi Ownership and ended up having their game pushed out too early by EA.

I was under the impression that they had always stuck to the Halloween date, maybe they would have announced a delay if EA wasn't involved, but I get the feeling that's not the case.

Mythos is supposed to be quite fun nowadays, though. 

Oh, it is, and the rifles work now.  It's a huge improvement from last time I played, I guess two or three months ago?

Ironwood, have you tried Fate or Mythos?  Curious.  If this HGL shit doesn't pan out, might give Mythos a shot, but it's more Fate 2 than Diablo 3.

[Modern Angel]

I'm patiently awaiting Mythos to get back to me with an invite, too. I need loots!

[Signe]

Do you even need a code to be in the beta now?  They just send me an email with a link and said if I didn't need it to pass it along to a friend.  There was no code or anything, just a link to an account creation page, which I assume anyone can access.

[Ixxit]

After years of MMOs there's something refreshing about stripping all the bullshit and getting down to the visceral, primal core of the thing: kill, loot, explode, flash, no groups. It's not deep and it's not innovative but I had fun despite myself.

This is exactly the appeal of the game for me.  Quite simply, I don't have the time or even the inclination to play a full fledged mmorpg anymore.

The game runs well on my system (Athlon 3800 dual core, 7600 Gt, 2 gigs fo ram), has great atmosphere, cool Loot and most importantly  slavering DEMONS.

Only played about 6 hours a couple of weeks ago, to save the  surprise for retail, and had no crashes or weirdness with the client.  I did find the physics (especially in melee) to be a little wonkey though (like there was some kind of invisible barrier around your targets).

[murdoc]

Do you even need a code to be in the beta now?  They just send me an email with a link and said if I didn't need it to pass it along to a friend.  There was no code or anything, just a link to an account creation page, which I assume anyone can access.

There's a key in the link, at least the ones I have have a key.

[Ironwood]

Ironwood, have you tried Fate or Mythos?  Curious.  If this HGL shit doesn't pan out, might give Mythos a shot, but it's more Fate 2 than Diablo 3.

Nope.  Bear in mind a couple of things :

1 - Not hardcore.  Wife, work, mortgage, demanding if perfect child.
2 - UK.  This cuts out more beta's, demo's and other silliness that you would think.  Sure, it's rampantly unfair, but also true.
3 - I like to moan about stuff without much reason.  Actually investigating is to much like hard work and would reduce the enjoyment of barracking you lot.

[Signe]

Do you even need a code to be in the beta now?  They just send me an email with a link and said if I didn't need it to pass it along to a friend.  There was no code or anything, just a link to an account creation page, which I assume anyone can access.

There's a key in the link, at least the ones I have have a key.

You're right.  My brain has da funk this morning.  Sorry.  I'll forward it to Ironwood if Ironwood wants me to.

[Salamok]

Do you even need a code to be in the beta now?  They just send me an email with a link and said if I didn't need it to pass it along to a friend.  There was no code or anything, just a link to an account creation page, which I assume anyone can access.

There's a key in the link, at least the ones I have have a key.

You're right.  My brain has da funk this morning.  Sorry.  I'll forward it to Ironwood if Ironwood wants me to.

I already PM'd him one.

[murdoc]

Do you even need a code to be in the beta now?  They just send me an email with a link and said if I didn't need it to pass it along to a friend.  There was no code or anything, just a link to an account creation page, which I assume anyone can access.

There's a key in the link, at least the ones I have have a key.

You're right.  My brain has da funk this morning.  Sorry.  I'll forward it to Ironwood if Ironwood wants me to.

Yegolev wanted one and I don't have access to the PC they're sitting on to PM him the link if you're really looking to hand one out