*Official* 2007 College Football Thread

[Abagadro]

Heh, Hawaii, this is what a real defense and running back looks like.

[Abagadro]

I'm going to have to stop watching this game because I'm getting truly sick of "Glory Glory Hallelujah." Who's the idiot that made that a school song?

[Abagadro]

Way to grind the game to a 10 minute halt with a challenge up 35 points Richt.

[Montague]

Anyone catch Urban Legend's comments after the game?

"We thought we had some answers early in the season," said Meyer, "and some of those young guys didn't live up to the standards we've set. Our goal is to be the New England Patriots of college football."

"Well, for those guys who just put in their time and didn't make any real contributions, it's time for you to go. It won't be hard to say goodbye to some of those guys who just went through the motions. Now for those kids who actually bought into the program, and who made some sacrifices and contributions -- you know, like Bubba Caldwell....he's a graduate of UF and had a great career -- you'll really miss those guys. But just because you're a senior doesn't mean you have any value."

Way to throw your kids under the bus there, Meyer.

[cmlancas]

The ironic thing is that UF fans/boosters probably ate that shit up without a second glance. All they listened to was "New England Patriots of College Football" and went 

[SnakeCharmer]

Anyone catch Urban Legend's comments after the game?

"We thought we had some answers early in the season," said Meyer, "and some of those young guys didn't live up to the standards we've set. Our goal is to be the New England Patriots of college football."

"Well, for those guys who just put in their time and didn't make any real contributions, it's time for you to go. It won't be hard to say goodbye to some of those guys who just went through the motions. Now for those kids who actually bought into the program, and who made some sacrifices and contributions -- you know, like Bubba Caldwell....he's a graduate of UF and had a great career -- you'll really miss those guys. But just because you're a senior doesn't mean you have any value."

Way to throw your kids under the bus there, Meyer.

Wow.

What an ass.

[Paelos]

Personally, I loved watching Georgia curbstomp the Hawaii team into the ground. That was the only way Georgia could win this bowl game in the public perception. If it was close, we lost. If we lost, we get laughed at all next season, but oh no. We beat the ever loving shit out of them.

So what does that leave us in the BCS bowls? Oh yeah, MASSIVE routs. These committees should be ashamed at letting teams like Illinois and Hawaii take the field. I also fully expect VA Tech to turn Kansas into Jello, and OU to make West Virginia it's jailhouse bitch.

By the way, the SEC is 6-2 and the Big Ten is 3-4 for all you fans out there. Should LSU win, I don't think there will be much argument about dominance this season with 7 bowl victories out of 9 including the title. Oh, and I'm glad Florida lost. I hate Florida even if they are in my conference. Screw those guys.

[SnakeCharmer]

For about 2 minutes I kinda felt sorry for Colt Brennan.  Then everytime one of UGA's defenders knocked his jock off, I giggled a little bit.

That kid took some serious hits in that game. 

[Paelos]

For about 2 minutes I kinda felt sorry for Colt Brennan.  Then everytime one of UGA's defenders knocked his jock off, I giggled a little bit.

That kid took some serious hits in that game. 

That play where Marcus Howard came free from the edge and just lit up Brennan, then recovered the fumble in the end zone. I'll never forget that hit. That was the defining play of the Sugar Bowl 2008 for me. It brought back memories of David Pollack.

What strides Boise State made last year to establish the WAC as possibly deserving in a BCS Bowl, this year has totally undone them as a conference. The WAC has the lowest winning % of any conference that had more than one bowl game. Boise State was an 11 point favorite and got embarrased by East Carolina. Nevada actually got shut out by New Mexico in the only blanking so far of the bowl season. Hawaii, well you all saw how that went down. Actually, Fresno State was the only team that won a game for the conference against GA Tech.

This system sucks. The BCS is taking on the chin from all the sports writers now. We need more ridiculous routs in the coming games.

[WayAbvPar]

These committees should be ashamed at letting teams like Illinois and Hawaii take the field.

Amen. I am neither a USC nor a UGA fan, but anything that exposes the BCS as the giant clusterfuck it is makes me happy.

[Hoax]

Personally, I loved watching Georgia curbstomp the Hawaii team into the ground. That was the only way Georgia could win this bowl game in the public perception. If it was close, we lost. If we lost, we get laughed at all next season, but oh no. We beat the ever loving shit out of them.

So what does that leave us in the BCS bowls? Oh yeah, MASSIVE routs. These committees should be ashamed at letting teams like Illinois and Hawaii take the field. I also fully expect VA Tech to turn Kansas into Jello, and OU to make West Virginia it's jailhouse bitch.

By the way, the SEC is 6-2 and the Big Ten is 3-4 for all you fans out there. Should LSU win, I don't think there will be much argument about dominance this season with 7 bowl victories out of 9 including the title. Oh, and I'm glad Florida lost. I hate Florida even if they are in my conference. Screw those guys.

No matter what happens the south will be the home of racists and christian whackjobs to me.    The fact that you and Shakecharmer are the official reps around here is fitting.  

In all seriousness though here are my thoughts on the games I watched:

-Cal v Air Force : Tedford needs to be careful, this year instead of just choking in the USC game they were unable to play 60 solid minutes all year.  I put that type of shit squarely on coaches.  California has the talent to do big things, he's got a system that can work, he needs to do a better job keeping the kids focused.  This bowl game sucked because every commercial was for a branch of the armed forces.  That got old in a fucking hurry.

-Fresno State v GT :  BCS mid tier schools should dread facing Fresno, they consistently kill teams like GT year in and year out.  I still think back to that Fresno v USC game where Mr. Bush had to go off in the second half to win it for 'SC as one of my favorite CFB games of all time.

-Indiana v OK State : I wanted to watch this.  Fuck you Comcast.  Fuck you NFL Network.

-USF v What was the name of that train? :  For real though, USF never made a believer out of me, (barely wasn't it?) beating Auburn when they were just a strange shambly zombie team?  The Big East is really a fun conference these days though, compared to when it was just "da U" and a bunch of teams getting run off the field by them.

-Clemson v Auburn : Good game, I wanted Clemson to win but it was an enjoyable game to sit back and watch with a beer in hand.

-Wisconsin v Tenn :  Like I posted neither team played much of a game, either team would have to be considered lucky to win.  Boring nonevent.

-UF v Michigan : Heh fuck you Florida.

-Texas Tech v Virginia : I did not watch this.  I am sorry I missed it.

-Illini v USC : Its too bad, they were bound to lose but this game could have been decent if the WR doesn't cough up that first fumble and USC doesn't get a great bounce on that lateral.  After those two plays Illinois went back to looking like they were scared and USC was happy to run them off the field.

-UGA v Hawaii : No contest.  I really can't believe Hawaii failed to even come out as fired up and gunning as the dawgs.  They have always played with the right attitude and intensity when I've watched them.  They were intimidated and not ready for prime time at all from the kickoff on.  Disappointing.  Really credit to Richt's staff for feeding those kids the right stuff and saying the right things.  They came out smelling blood and looking to spill more of it.  I loved the whole team rush the endzone versus Florida and I loved their attitude versus Hawaii.  I hate to say it but I wish ?UGA had played USC, that could have been a heck of a game.

Upcoming:
Kansas versus Va Tech.  God what a miserable matchup this is.  Mizzou versus Va Tech might have been awesome.  I can't be bothered to care about this game at all.

[Montague]

Personally, I loved watching Georgia curbstomp the Hawaii team into the ground. That was the only way Georgia could win this bowl game in the public perception. If it was close, we lost. If we lost, we get laughed at all next season, but oh no. We beat the ever loving shit out of them.

So what does that leave us in the BCS bowls? Oh yeah, MASSIVE routs. These committees should be ashamed at letting teams like Illinois and Hawaii take the field. I also fully expect VA Tech to turn Kansas into Jello, and OU to make West Virginia it's jailhouse bitch.

By the way, the SEC is 6-2 and the Big Ten is 3-4 for all you fans out there. Should LSU win, I don't think there will be much argument about dominance this season with 7 bowl victories out of 9 including the title. Oh, and I'm glad Florida lost. I hate Florida even if they are in my conference. Screw those guys.

Play your bowl games on the road then we'll talk dominance.

BTW if LSU loses the SEC will be 1-2 vs. the Big 10.  Again. 

My fearless prediction: Kansas beats Va. Tech. You guys make fun of the Big 10 but the ACC is fucking horrible. Boston College just barely beat Michigan State and Sparty sucks out loud.



 

[sigil]

No matter what happens the south will be the home of racists and christian whackjobs to me.    The fact that you and Shakecharmer are the official reps around here is fitting.  

It's kind of the same thing as the west coast being filled with fops who  drink wine coolers and think sports are too damaging to their hair and manicures to really be involved in such fancy, then  .

I've watched far more round football than the oval kind this year, yet even i know that if it wasn't for SC you could miss every game west of texas  and not miss a whole hell of a lot.

[SnakeCharmer]

No matter what happens the south will be the home of racists and christian whackjobs to me.    The fact that you and Shakecharmer are the official reps around here is fitting.  

So that pretty much makes you just as much a bigot as you think I am?

Nice to see you swimming in the hypocrisy.

[sigil]

Notice how the two 'Bama boys instantly rise up to the troll bait.

Even knowing it's troll bait, at that.

[Paelos]

Play your bowl games on the road then we'll talk dominance.

That's one of the dumbest things I've heard this week. The SEC would love to play more bowl games in further stadiums. WE JUST DON'T GET INVITED. Look at the Rose Bowl for example. And we can't play bowl games in the north because yall are buried in snow.

[sigil]

No one wants to play the Planters "Freeze your nuts off" Bowl in New York on  the second day of January.

I side with Paelos on this one.

[Montague]

No one wants to play the Planters "Freeze your nuts off" Bowl in New York on  the second day of January.

I side with Paelos on this one.

Oh I know, all the bowls are set up down south. I'm just pointing out that the Big 10 does not have the luxury of playing any virtual home games in the postseason.

By the way, the SEC's record vs. the Big 10 on a "neutral field" in the last 10 years as of this very second?

14-14.

[Paelos]

By the way, the SEC's record vs. the Big 10 on a "neutral field" in the last 10 years as of this very second?

14-14.

Dude, I'm not saying the Big Ten has never been good ever, or that the SEC has been completely dominant all the time. I'm saying THIS year the SEC is outperforming everyone so far, and that I feel the SEC is on the whole much tougher and competative than most other conferences. I'd also like to see the BCS quit screwing up the matchups between the SEC and other conferences.

[cmlancas]

Glory glory to Old Georgia, G-E-O-R-G-I-A.

 

[Montague]

By the way, the SEC's record vs. the Big 10 on a "neutral field" in the last 10 years as of this very second?

14-14.

Dude, I'm not saying the Big Ten has never been good ever, or that the SEC has been completely dominant all the time. I'm saying THIS year the SEC is outperforming everyone so far, and that I feel the SEC is on the whole much tougher and competative than most other conferences. I'd also like to see the BCS quit screwing up the matchups between the SEC and other conferences.

Yeah I know, I'm just tired of the Big 10 bashing. Not from you guys here so much, just the media in general.

What's funny though is that when it's convenient to prop other teams up, then the Big 10 is relevant. USC waxes Illinois last night, which I dont think surprised anybody here considering Illinois was 2-9 last year and while they have some talent they're young as hell. Now USC is the second coming and Herbstreit and Musburger are slurping at Petey's privates when before it was how abysmal the Big 10 was. Of course that's the SC modus operandi. Beat the #2 or #3 Big 10 team at home in the cushy Rose Bowl and then whine that they should be national champs. Give me a fucking break. Quit losing two games a year and you can be natty champs, instead of crying that "We're playing the best football right now!" year after year.

Problem is that our top-line coaches, while good, don't buy into the beauty contest paradigm. Tressel will throw his second stringers in against the MAC teams in the second quarter. A former player stated on a message board once that Tressel will intentionally call plays that the team couldnt execute well in practice once he gets a big lead. If he would operate more like the Stoops/Meyer/Carroll school where you keep hammering the same plays until they stop it and keep your starters in till you hit 50 maybe the media would be all up about us too. Carr and Paterno are the same way. We'll see about Richrod, he doesn't seem to have the same compunctions.

  


 

[Paelos]

That's all well and good, but USC has no leg to stand on. They lost to Stanford. They can whine all they want, but they lost to a team that didn't even make it to a bowl game.

Georgia, same story. We also lost the SEC. I don't think that's national caliber, but they had a damn good year.

[Abagadro]

Did Illinois beat someone significant this year?

[WayAbvPar]

Ohio State.

[Abagadro]

Oh ya. OSU must really suck then if Illinois is such an insignificant win for USC. I guess since it was in Illinois' home stadium its somewhat understandable though since road games are so tough.

[Montague]

Oh ya. OSU must really suck then if Illinois is such an insignificant win for USC. I guess since it was in Illinois' home stadium its somewhat understandable though since road games are so tough.

Pick one or the other. Either the Big 10 sucks or it doesn't. Don't badmouth the Big 10 in one breath and then trumpet a big win over the #3 team as evidence that your flavor of the month team should be national champs.

Edit - West Va. just got a 60 yard TD run by their big white fullback. Now up 20-6, and Slaton isnt even playing. Guess I was wrong about the 'neers.

[Abagadro]

Either the Big 10 sucks or it doesn't. Don't badmouth the Big 10 in one breath and then trumpet a big win over the #3 team as evidence that your flavor of the month team should be national champs.

Pick one. Either the Big 10 is a good conference or it isn't.  Don't badmouth Illinois (the #2 Big 10 team BTW) in one breath and then trumpet the team they beat on their own field as your homer team that should be national champs.



Also, I never said USC should be national champs. Just highlighting how stupid your excuses are.

[SnakeCharmer]

WOW.

Who saw the WVU / OU score at halftime coming?

20-6.

[Abagadro]

10 rushing yards at half for OU. Incredible D so far by WVU.

[Montague]

Either the Big 10 sucks or it doesn't. Don't badmouth the Big 10 in one breath and then trumpet a big win over the #3 team as evidence that your flavor of the month team should be national champs.

Pick one. Either the Big 10 is a good conference or it isn't.  Don't badmouth Illinois (the #2 Big 10 team BTW) in one breath and then trumpet the team they beat on their own field as your homer team that should be national champs.



Also, I never said USC should be national champs. Just highlighting how stupid your excuses are.

I was referring to the media who are anointing USC national champions, not you. And what the fuck am I excusing? Illinois got waxed, they didn't belong there, I admit it. What's to excuse?

As for Illinois being number two in the Big 10, tell me they are better than Michigan with a healthy Henne and Hart. Though they may be the #2 team in the Big 10 if OSU lays a huge egg against LSU.  

[Abagadro]

They finished second in the conference. That makes them the #2 team in the conference.  Michigan did play an inspired game against Florida though.

And from the media I have been reading, no one is anointing USC #1 so much as pointing out how lousy the BSC system is and that the bowls this year intentionally set up mismatched games for the express purpose of protecting the title game from being called into question.  A winner of a USC/Georgia  game would have a better claim than the winner of any of the games that were actually set up.  They set up games that looked like blowouts on paper (2 of which have had just that), so people like you rooting for OSU or LSU could delegitemize the results of those.

[Triforcer]

I'd just like to point out that the "who is playing the best football RIGHT NOW!111!?" standard is incredibly dumb.  By that logic, if my team has the universally acclaimed 22 best players EVAR but they are all injured in game 1 and my team finishes 0-12, then if they get healthy by bowl season THEY should be in the national championship.  Or, if an MLB team starts 0-72 but then wins 90 games in a row and misses the playoffs by one game, they should be let in.

I could go on, but lets just say: no fucking sport has that as the standard.

[Abagadro]

I could go on, but lets just say: no fucking sport has that as the standard.

Every other sport has that. It's called a playoff system.  The team that is playing the best at the time of the playoffs tends to win them. Sure there are thresholds for getting into the playoffs, but it is decided on the field to a far greater degree than the clusterfuck that is the BCS.

[Montague]

They finished second in the conference. That makes them the #2 team in the conference.  Michigan did play an inspired game against Florida though.

And from the media I have been reading, no one is anointing USC #1 so much as pointing out how lousy the BSC system is and that the bowls this year intentionally set up mismatched games for the express purpose of protecting the title game from being called into question.  A winner of a USC/Georgia  game would have a better claim than the winner of any of the games that were actually set up.  They set up games that looked like blowouts on paper (2 of which have had just that), so people like you rooting for OSU or LSU could delegitemize the results of those.

Its not just the BCS, its the bowls. From what I've read, the Rose Bowl had to ask permission from the Sugar Bowl to invite Georgia and were denied.

[Abagadro]

I agree. That's because of how the BCS has its invitation system set with with rotating choices and bowls getting priority when they lose a conference champ to the title game.  Of course the sugar is going to grab a local team because it generally means more $$$.  But the system is borked and allows that kind of nonsense to happen.