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Topic: Duke Nukem Forever?!? (Read 99865 times)
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MuffinMan
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Yea, I stopped during the second part, too. Turned that post-effects option right off, it was giving me a headache. Solid "meh," maybe for $20.
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I'm very mysterious when I'm inside you.
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Sky
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I love my TV an' hug my TV an' call it 'George'.
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Solid "meh," maybe for $20.
"Meh"be should be a new BIIF category. |
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rattran
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Dunno, it's probably a rent it just for nostalgia. But "meh" sums it up succinctly.
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koro
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Two weapons at a time, regenerating health, no Big Boot. Pass.
I was expecting and hoping for an older-school Serious Sam-style shooter with a lot of wild level design, not a bog-standard Halo clone.
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HaemishM
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the Confederate flag underneath the stone in my class ring
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Is the demo you speak of out on PC or the consoles?
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koro
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The one I played was on the PC; my girlfriend got into the early demo thing due to having the Borderlands GOTY. I'm not sure of its status on consoles.
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Azazel
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Another bit of bargain-bin fodder, by the look of things.
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UnSub
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Obviously Gearbox spent more time on boob design, glory hole scenes and poop throwing to focus on core gameplay.
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Modern Angel
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I am shocked, SHOCKED, that this game is an average at best shooter. Shocked.
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Sir T
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Well, the original Duck Nukem was a pretty straight out Doom/Quake clone if you took out the really good humour and Serious Sam attitude.
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Hic sunt dracones.
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MuffinMan
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I'm very mysterious when I'm inside you.
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Soulflame
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For some reason, that image screams LIEFELD to me.  |
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KallDrexx
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I'm bored at work and watched all of that.
Wow that looks terrible.
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tgr
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Just another victim of cyber age discrimination.
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I'm watching the old Duke 3D walkthrough videos, and it looks a fucktonne more awesome. Welp.
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Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.
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Amaron
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I generally like TB's videos but he was being horrible in that one. He clearly doesn't like not shooting things but he didn't have to repeat it like a broken record. |
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tgr
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Just another victim of cyber age discrimination.
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Compare that first impression video of DNF to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekgW6ddkpTc ... it's not exactly very similar, if I have to say so. I'm downgrading this to a buy on sale unless there's a radical change further on. |
Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.
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Azazel
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I generally like TB's videos but he was being horrible in that one. He clearly doesn't like not shooting things but he didn't have to repeat it like a broken record. To be fair though, he did spend the first 20 minutes of gameplay in the new Duke Nukem game not shooting things. |
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UnSub
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TB's got his 5 hour viewpoint version up too.
Watching DNF reminds me of a really bad HL2 clone.
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Malakili
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TB's got his 5 hour viewpoint version up too.
Watching DNF reminds me of a really bad HL2 clone.
I don't know how much was done with Gearbox got a hold of it, but whoever worked on it totally missed the point of what made Duke Nukem 3D awesome by the looks of it. Its like so much emphasis was put on the Duke character that the actual game existed just for the sake of showing it off, rather than using the character to add humor to the game. |
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Azazel
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From what I've read, a lot of that is due to George Broussard (sp) and is why the thing took 12 years to not be released before it was canned. Lots of "add that as well" "and we need some of those" etc.
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tgr
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Just another victim of cyber age discrimination.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q86vWgaLuwEApparently there are places outside your "supposed path to travel" which are deathtraps. I'm getting close to downgrading this to "do not buy". Edit: Oh god, turret sections and turbo boosts on monster trucks. What the christ. Edit edit: And 2 weapons, where the weapons you're "supposed" to use is provided for you.
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« Last Edit: June 11, 2011, 11:32:53 AM by tgr »
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Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.
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waffel
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I love this game, then again I don't take video gaming seriously.
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ffc
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I can't imagine old Duke's level design in a current shooter. I'd run straight through assuming all those secret areas couldn't exist. Then I'd try to hide behind cover. Then I'd expect a rails shooting sequence from a mounted gun on a truck. Then from a helicopter. Then I'd cry. I don't take video gaming seriously.
Then I'd jump off a bridge. |
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Malakili
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I love this game, then again I don't take video gaming seriously.
What does taking gaming seriously have to do with anything. Crap it crap. |
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UnSub
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From what I've read, a lot of that is due to George Broussard (sp) and is why the thing took 12 years to not be released before it was canned. Lots of "add that as well" "and we need some of those" etc.
I don't get the "this is all 3DRealms / Broussard's fault" since it is being released by Gearbox. Gearbox didn't have to release the game, go on the road to promote the game, stand next to strippers, put out promotional videos about how new and fresh an FPS with "puzzles and driving and machine guns" (about 1:40) was going to be. If the game was bad, Gearbox has had since August of last year to fix it. Still not ready for release? Don't release it. At the end of the day 3DRealms didn't release Duke Nukem Forever because they wanted it to be the best game ever and it never got there. Gearbox pushed a title they must have been iffy about straight out the door. Not a personal criticism against Azazel, but I've seen a lot of comments about "don't blame Gearbox for DNF" and I have to wonder why not blame Gearbox since they are perfectly happy to accept that $60 from you to play the game. |
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Malakili
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The real crime gearbox has committed is putting an end to the longest running joke on the internet.
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Rendakor
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Honestly they're better off releasing it as-is then getting caught in the DNF delay cycle.
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"i can't be a star citizen. they won't even give me a star green card"
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Azazel
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At the end of the day 3DRealms didn't release Duke Nukem Forever because they wanted it to be the best game ever and it never got there. Gearbox pushed a title they must have been iffy about straight out the door.
Not a personal criticism against Azazel, but I've seen a lot of comments about "don't blame Gearbox for DNF" and I have to wonder why not blame Gearbox since they are perfectly happy to accept that $60 from you to play the game.
Calm down, Jimmy. I'm talking specifically about all of the "extras" and fan service stuff that's in the game. Fully-functioning pinball machines, driving-a-remote-controlled car, drinking beer from a working vending machine, etc etc etc. Everything I've read has said that Broussard would say "add THAT" whenever he saw a new shiny in another game. On the same note, Gearbox bought it, told them to finish it and got the thing out the door. While adding another couple of years to the dev cycle would have been delicious in it's own way, the game would have been even worse off in 2 more years, and cost them a fair whack of cash as a poor investment. From my perspective, DNF is another game that could have been better, but will probably be worth while for me to pick up out of the bargain bin in 6-12 months just like so many other games. boo hoo. Overpriced overhyped new release fails to live up to expectations set up by marketing hype machine? NO! Tell me it dinnae happen! |
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tgr
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Do you honestly believe that the problem DNF has in its current edition is, it wasn't given enough time? I'm not convinced they would've made the game better by spending 2 more years, as I wasn't expecting driving when I thought of duke, I was thinking of starting out like I did in Duke3D, by shooting shit in the face, and keep shooting shit in the face, not be told "go here", "wait here", "use these two weapons here", "leave your car here because it suddenly ran out of petrol". |
Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.
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Azazel
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You fell into the sarchasm, my friend. 2 more years would have been  for very different reasons then quality. |
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Wasted
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Despite the general feeling of meh this game is generating, and the fact that it is Gearbox, the only reason I haven't bought this yet is because of the regional pricing markup in Steam. If I could have paid the same price as everyone else I think I would have wasted my money by now and been disappointed.
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Rendakor
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Despite the general feeling of meh this game is generating, and the fact that it is Gearbox, the only reason I haven't bought this yet is because of the regional pricing markup in Steam. If I could have paid the same price as everyone else I think I would have wasted my money by now and been disappointed.
That would be difficult to do since it isn't actually out yet. |
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Wasted
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Despite the general feeling of meh this game is generating, and the fact that it is Gearbox, the only reason I haven't bought this yet is because of the regional pricing markup in Steam. If I could have paid the same price as everyone else I think I would have wasted my money by now and been disappointed.
That would be difficult to do since it isn't actually out yet. It got released early in Aus for some reason, maybe they are charging us $80 for that privilege  |
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jakonovski
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Sounds like the Duke boat sailed, stolen by Bulletstorm.
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