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Reply #140 on: June 17, 2011, 10:55:34 AM

Shame, I think Ryan Reynods is a quality actor who keeps ending up in shitty movies.

I stand on the side of the fence that dislikes him, as an actor. This might be in large part due to the fact he gets typecast, but once you get your trend going it's fairly hard to break it in casting and in audience interpretations - I'd say Hanks stands out as how to do it correctly, but even he got a lucky break... time will tell, but this movie is definitely not a Reynolds coming out party.

No doubt; I imagine if you showed his picture to a bunch of people you would probably hear him named 'Van Wilder' more often than Ryan Reynolds. I think there is hope for him though.

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Reply #141 on: June 17, 2011, 04:10:14 PM


But the audience rating has dropped almost 10% since this morning.  Ohhhhh, I see.

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Reply #142 on: June 17, 2011, 11:50:06 PM

Shame, I think Ryan Reynods is a quality actor who keeps ending up in shitty movies.

What has he been good in? Serious question.

He pretty much ruined Blade 3. Well...that movie was bad anyway, but he certainly made it worse. I can't think of anything he's been in where he elevated the material in any way.

Edit: Not to hate on him too much, I don't think he's bad, he's just kind of there.
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Reply #143 on: June 18, 2011, 04:27:59 AM

Shame, I think Ryan Reynods is a quality actor who keeps ending up in shitty movies.

What has he been good in? Serious question.

He pretty much ruined Blade 3. Well...that movie was bad anyway, but he certainly made it worse. I can't think of anything he's been in where he elevated the material in any way.

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Reply #144 on: June 18, 2011, 11:52:33 AM

I saw it last night.   It was a little better than the previews made it look but that doesn't say much.   They probably would of done better putting it in the 50/60's setting and not trying to explain so much.  Being so faithful to "Hal is dumb and makes giant green boxing gloves" was retarded too.
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Reply #145 on: June 18, 2011, 02:13:57 PM

Ryan Reynolds quips were the ONLY good thing about Blade 3. The rest of it sucked vampire nuts.

Just got back from seeing the movie. It is not NEARLY as bad as the critics and everyone is making it out to be. It ain't great by any stretch of the imagination, but it ain't bad. It's comfortably in the middle. The scriptwriters are what really hosed the movie though. I think they wrote it with the idea that it wouldn't do well enough for a sequel, so they wanted to shoehorn in as much Green Lantern lore as possible, and they ended up putting too much in without letting it really have the weight it deserved. As a result, the ending felt rushed or at least somewhat anticlimactic. I thought the effects were decent, but they suffered from the chosen design sense.

It started with the design of Oa. In the comics, Oa has always been this shining beacon, a pristine, clean, angular scifi planetary palace. There should have been white rooms with almost no shadows. The Guardians were physically right, but their costumes were absolutely silly - 3 foot tall blue midgets with 20 foot long robes that dangle down from their rock spire thrones? PIKA? Oa looked like it had been chaotically carved out of basalt, making the whole place appear chaotic and dark, not the shining beacon of order, peace and justice for the entire universe. That bled into the costumes which were also too dark - which necessitated the need for glowing lines of power that really didn't fit.

The choice of Parallax as the first villain was really a poor one. Wrapping that story up neatly in one movie, especially a movie that deals with the entire origin plus the whole Lantern Corps history AND Jordan's personal relationships AND the Hector Hammond story. It was too much. They did admirably with what they put in, but the movie couldn't really breath. And now any villain for the sequel (and if you stay through the credits or know anything about Lantern mythology, you know who the villain is) will seem weak in comparison to Parallax. They should have gone for Hector Hammond as the villain in the first, with the Sinestro plotline in the background leading to


at the end. Maybe they even bring in Carol Ferris as Star Sapphire for the second movie where the Guardians reveal the Parallax mystery that leads to the third movie, a great big Yellow Lantern/Green Lantern war with the final Parallax resolution in the third movie.

As it is, IF there is a sequel, it will make Parallax seem even weaker than the ending made it seem.

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Reply #146 on: June 18, 2011, 02:56:59 PM

Shame, I think Ryan Reynods is a quality actor who keeps ending up in shitty movies.

What has he been good in? Serious question.

Personally (and I think I go against the grain here) but I was sold on Buried and the fact that he carried that film solidly for 90 minutes under those conditions means he gets a pass from me for a while.  I also quite liked him in "The Nines" which no-one has seen anyway.

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Reply #147 on: June 18, 2011, 08:32:28 PM

Shame, I think Ryan Reynods is a quality actor who keeps ending up in shitty movies.

What has he been good in? Serious question.

He pretty much ruined Blade 3. Well...that movie was bad anyway, but he certainly made it worse. I can't think of anything he's been in where he elevated the material in any way.

Edit: Not to hate on him too much, I don't think he's bad, he's just kind of there.

I thought he was hilarious in Blade 3 and the best part of the movie.
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Reply #148 on: June 19, 2011, 06:47:30 AM

The choice of Parallax as the first villain was really a poor one. Wrapping that story up neatly in one movie,

I didn't read the comics but is it really wrapped up?  I thought:

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Reply #149 on: June 19, 2011, 06:54:52 AM

The major problem is that current DC events have really screwed with the Green Lantern lore while a lot of fans wanted Hal Jordan back and no longer associated with Zero Hour, so Parallax has been retconned (badly, imo) into something different.

I read in some nerd book one time that a lore-relevant reason for the Green Lanterns not being immune to the colour yellow was because the Oa Guardians needed to remind the Lanterns that their powers weren't infinite so as not to be corrupted by it. Now, the Green Lantern mythos resembles some giant Magic: The Gathering tournament played out by characters in spandex.

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Reply #150 on: June 19, 2011, 10:15:20 AM

The choice of Parallax as the first villain was really a poor one. Wrapping that story up neatly in one movie,

I didn't read the comics but is it really wrapped up?  I thought:



Not necessarily.


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Reply #151 on: June 19, 2011, 09:19:36 PM

Once again DC proved they can't make any good comic book movie except for Batman series.

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Reply #152 on: June 24, 2011, 04:46:37 AM

I thought it was pretty good, the best thing about something being slated by the critics is that it lowers your expectations.  So you can enjoy something quite average.
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Reply #153 on: June 24, 2011, 07:52:30 AM

Shame, I think Ryan Reynods is a quality actor who keeps ending up in shitty movies.

What has he been good in? Serious question.

Personally (and I think I go against the grain here) but I was sold on Buried and the fact that he carried that film solidly for 90 minutes under those conditions means he gets a pass from me for a while.  I also quite liked him in "The Nines" which no-one has seen anyway.

Buried was awesome. 
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Reply #154 on: June 25, 2011, 12:40:14 AM

He was the only good thing in buried, the script was terrible, worst film I've seen for quite a while.
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Reply #155 on: October 22, 2011, 06:58:50 PM

Just came out on PPV this week and watched it tonight at home.
I honestly dont know what all the negativity was about. IMHO as a comic book movie it was easily better than Thor and every Hulk ever made and half the Batman movies.
Overall I would give it a thumbs up and would have paid to see it in the theatre.

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Reply #156 on: October 24, 2011, 08:52:44 AM

I liked Green Lantern movie, but I think you are fucking nuts in your comparisons to other better movies.

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Reply #157 on: October 24, 2011, 09:00:34 AM

I liked Green Lantern movie, but I think you are fucking nuts in your comparisons to other better movies.

Which ones were better? Thor, Hulks (only the Norton one was even decent), or the Kilmer/Clooney Batman's?
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Reply #158 on: October 24, 2011, 09:41:22 AM

Thor was better. When you said the Batman movies, I thought you were talking about the recent ones. I try not to acknowledge the Joel Schumaker Batman's as Batman movies, though I did like the Kilmer one for as shitty as it was. I thought the writing in both Hulk films hung together a little better than Green Lantern.

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Reply #159 on: October 24, 2011, 09:59:44 AM

Thor was better. When you said the Batman movies, I thought you were talking about the recent ones. I try not to acknowledge the Joel Schumaker Batman's as Batman movies, though I did like the Kilmer one for as shitty as it was. I thought the writing in both Hulk films hung together a little better than Green Lantern.

We will have to agree to disagree on Thor. I liked everything that occured in Misgard (especially Odin), hated everything that happened on Earth (He-Man and his men at arms).
Writing? Are you forgetting the 2003 Thor with Nick Nolte and the Hulk dogs?  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

And no definitely was not talking about the recent Batmans, when I said "half the batmans" I meant the bad-neon colored-Arnold half.  why so serious?
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Reply #160 on: October 24, 2011, 12:02:39 PM

The 2003 Hulk with Nick Nolte was better written as a whole. It fell apart a bit at the end, but it didn't have nearly the plot holes or choppiness that Green Lantern did. It suffered from being a bit slow and long and not having enough HULK SMASH, but Green Lantern felt too short with some needed exposition left on the cutting room floor.

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Reply #161 on: October 26, 2011, 07:42:14 PM

I read the green lantern comics growing up, so i was looking forward to this. I also tend to like most of the superhero movies. Out of the ones i've seen this year i would say it comes in last. The x-men: first class, then thor, then captain america, then green lantern. I didn't mind watching it, but it wasn't what i expected. Maybe i just don't think Green Lantern is as cool now as when i was a kid, or maybe the story was just meh. Right now i think Marvel is probably kicking DC in the teeth. If it wasn't for the Batman reboot it would be even more lopsided.
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Reply #162 on: October 27, 2011, 08:59:57 AM

In fairness though, Batman Reboot SHITS over everything else.

And I liked everything else.

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