Bethesda gets Fallout

[trias_e]

Fallout is a far, far, far better Oblivion than Oblivion was.  I have tried it post-Fallout and Lo, It T'was Crap.

Oblivion is damn fun as long as you mod the crap out of it in whichever way you see fit.

[Jain Zar]

VATS makes Fallout 3 possibly the first 1st person action RPG to actually feel fun and natural.

Stuff like Ultima Underworld and the King's Field games were merely the test runs.

Fallout 3 is to 1st person RPGs what Resident Evil 4 was to Survival Horror.

What we always really wanted in the first dang place out of it.

Its been a long ass time before a game has inspired me to play it so heavily.  So fuck NMA, fuck RPG Codex, and fuck every other tinfoil hat wearing Fallout douchebag. 

Those shitheads were nearly as bad as the Final Fantasy fanbase in their retardation.  And they have been proven wrong.

[schild]

VATS makes Fallout 3 possibly the first 1st person action RPG to actually feel fun and natural.

Fallout 3 is to 1st person RPGs what Resident Evil 4 was to Survival Horror.

Look, I like Fallout 3 and such for what it is. An interesting world worth exploring with a host of half-finished ideas, bugs, and mediocre homage-ish dialog - but what the fuck are you talking about?

Natural? What the fuck is natural about VATS?

Next time I go and buy something at a store, I'm going to pause the world, take out my wallet, point at the register, and unpause the world so the money knows where to go. What are you smoking.

As for the second quoted bit?

Really? Comeon now. Just comeon. The actual combat is shit and VATS is just a band-aid for the combat being total shit. It's passable and incredibly easy, but F3:FPS/RPG as RE4:Survival Horror?

lol

no.

[justdave]

Just out of curiosity, what it the considered eqiuvalent of FPS/RPG vs. RE4:Shit Writing? Honest question.

[Jain Zar]

VATS makes Fallout 3 possibly the first 1st person action RPG to actually feel fun and natural.

Fallout 3 is to 1st person RPGs what Resident Evil 4 was to Survival Horror.

Look, I like Fallout 3 and such for what it is. An interesting world worth exploring with a host of half-finished ideas, bugs, and mediocre homage-ish dialog - but what the fuck are you talking about?

Natural? What the fuck is natural about VATS?

Next time I go and buy something at a store, I'm going to pause the world, take out my wallet, point at the register, and unpause the world so the money knows where to go. What are you smoking.

As for the second quoted bit?

Really? Comeon now. Just comeon. The actual combat is shit and VATS is just a band-aid for the combat being total shit. It's passable and incredibly easy, but F3:FPS/RPG as RE4:Survival Horror?

lol

no.

Hit and run tactics against guys shooting the fuck out of you is fun and tense.  Setting up kill points with landmines because you are out of stimpacks and 3 super mutants want to make you hurt badly  is fun.
Dodging behind a desk while a super ant is trying to spit death acid that will kill you in one hit while you desperately try to hack a computer and get the fuck out of dodge before it zeroes in on you is fun.
Kneeling behind a corner and using VATS to blow the head off a raider with one shot is fun.
Capping a mole rat with a big green stick in RT mode is fun, especially when they go splat.
Shooting them in the head in VATS as they jump at you and their body flies by you dead is fun.

What's not to love?

[NowhereMan]

Welp I've bought it now on the grounds that my PC can run Oblivion. Turns out that when they say my card is unsupported (9700 Pro, I know ancient as fuck now) they mean it. They haven't actually put it Shader 2.0 compatible shader files (all shader 2.0b) so I am presently playing with a rough fan made fix that involves deactivating heads and am waiting for an actual fan made shader file. I'd upgrade my card but there doesn't seem to be much point spending £50 on a crappy AGP card now only to replace it again when I upgrade next (which should hopefully be in the next 6 months or so).

[Falconeer]

Box is finally here, annnnnddd.....:

""Emulator detected!"
SecuROM™ has determined you are trying to start the protected application from a virtual drive. Please refer to the following procedure to remedy:"

Following procedure not working. Game not starting. Nervous breakdown incoming.
Ooo-wee! And I still buy original? Why dammit why!

[Venkman]

Earlier in this thread someone noted you can bypass the Launcher default program by going directly to another EXE. I can't remember which EXE it was, but ever since I read that, I've been doing that. At the time it was simply becaue I wanted to stop seeing the unskippable annoying opening movies. But I'm wondering now if you tried this same direct-launch approach it would work for you.

Basically, look for an EXE that isn't the one the Launcher app is pointing too and try that.

This will also remove the requirement of having the CD in the drive.

[Rishathra]

It's Fallout3.exe.  Same directory.

It only works if you have launched the game at least once through the launchpad, though.

[Falconeer]

Update:

The quoted error message appears as you put the dvd in your drive and prevents you from INSTALLING the game. That's why I had to download an (illegal, I guess) image from the net and launch the installation from it.
Once installed I was able to start the game from said .exe.

So yeah, I have the original, had to wait days to get it and finally to make it run I had work around it the 'net scoundrels' help. Nice.

About the game, after 2 hours: vault sucks. As soon as you leave it... woot! And what's the deal with hair? A broad selection of pathetic haircuts? Bleh!

[Yegolev]

Hair isn't so important when your guy's headgear looks like like Hunter S. Thompson.

[DeathInABottle]

Agreed, the haircuts suck, but the facial hair options are .  The muttonstache looks amazing underneath my Abe Lincoln stovepipe hat.

[Murgos]

It's odd that they don't have good hair, a guy named Ren modded in amazing hair for Oblivion, it should have been a no brainer for them copy it.

[rattran]

Microsoft has confirmed that Fallout 3 will be the first title to offer DLC through the newly announced Games for Windows LIVE Marketplace.

Pete Hines, vice president of public relations and marketing for Bethesda Softworks commented:
"Games for Windows LIVE helps us expand the Fallout 3 universe and bring the full experience directly to gamers. Through the Marketplace we now have a no-nonsense way to deliver updates and great downloadable content. It's really a complete package, and a great fit for Fallout 3."

They'll make you pay for better hair.

[Bunk]

It's odd that they don't have good hair, a guy named Ren modded in amazing hair for Oblivion, it should have been a no brainer for them copy it.

I would expect that you will see that mod converted over sooner rather than later - it was by far the most popular appearance mod in Oblivion.

[Velorath]

Operation Anchorage is now available for purchase on XBL and Games for Windows Live for $10 worth of Microsoft points.

Edit: already mentioned in the other thread.

[schild]

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd, necro.

Obsidian gets Fallout 3-2. Bethesda has tapped them (due to the Black Isle devs) to make Fallout: New Vegas.

Sorta excited! Maybe it'll be a complete game!

[NiX]

Why do you do this to yourself?

[Yegolev]

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd, necro.

Obsidian gets Fallout 3-2. Bethesda has tapped them (due to the Black Isle devs) to make Fallout: New Vegas.

Sorta excited! Maybe it'll be a complete game!

I'm guessing a particularly large piece of hail got to your skull and you somehow forgot about it.

[Bunk]

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd, necro.

Obsidian gets Fallout 3-2. Bethesda has tapped them (due to the Black Isle devs) to make Fallout: New Vegas.

Sorta excited! Maybe it'll be a complete game!

Or will wait wait with baited breath for four years to see if Team-gizka finishes it?

[Sky]

Or will wait wait with baited breath for four years to see if Team-gizka finishes it?

I'd say TG is at least a year away from release. Two years would not surprise me. I would not be suprised if it's never released. Srsly, fuck those guys, they are sooooo slow. I'm a believer in When It's Done, but they've shown how that can be bad, too. For what they're adding, it's DNF territory imo.

Anyway. Obsidian, lol. Going out on a limb to say it'll be a more complex game with a great story that's buggy as fuck and unfinished.

[NowhereMan]

One thing I've had hammered into me while thinking about doing a PhD is one of the worst fucking things you can do is try to get something you're doing perfect because the result will always be never finishing it. Seriously if they've caught all or the vast majority of CTDs and game breaking bugs and implemented almost all the missing content they should release the fucking thing by now and let someone else who hasn't been working on it for the last 4 years polish up the last little bits if they want to.

[Ingmar]

This may be heresy, but I thought NWN2 was a solid game (and didn't feel unfinished.) Lucas is to blame for the release state of KOTOR2. I have nothing but optimism for Fallout New Vegas!

[Yegolev]

Keep hope alive!

[gryeyes]

This may be heresy, but I thought NWN2 was a solid game

The first expansion was a huge improvement and showed forward progress at least.

[Bunk]

I hope you meant to say the 2nd expansion. The first one was technically fine - but a level 20+ campaign in that system was just dumb. The 2nd one took the game in a whole new direction however.

[Sky]

I've been considering some kind of NWN2 Diamond style purchase, don't think they've got all the content available on the cheap yet? My gaming budget is beyond nil now. 

[gryeyes]

I hope you meant to say the 2nd expansion. The first one was technically fine - but a level 20+ campaign in that system was just dumb. The 2nd one took the game in a whole new direction however.

No i meant Mask of the Betrayer. Second expansion was fun but its an entirely new game.

[Lantyssa]

This may be heresy, but I thought NWN2 was a solid game (and didn't feel unfinished.) Lucas is to blame for the release state of KOTOR2. I have nothing but optimism for Fallout New Vegas!

You managed to make it through the story?  Maybe it's because I hate rails and the first chapter had enough for a train yard.

If they pull it off I'll be happy.  I'm not holding my breath though, and I'll be waiting a few months after release for follow-up reviews.

[Velorath]

Bethesda also announced a release date of May 5 for the Broken Steel DLC and some details on what it contains.  Possible spoilers for anyone who hasn't finished the game yet.

[apocrypha]

Bethesda also announced a release date of May 5 for the Broken Steel DLC and some details on what it contains.  Possible spoilers for anyone who hasn't finished the game yet.

If that's 360/PC only again I'll firebomb Bethesda's offices.

[Hawkbit]

They better release all the DLC packs in one retail expansion.  Or let me add them to my retail base game to Steam and download them from there. 

Otherwise, I'm out.  I'm not reinstalling GFWL for anything and I'm definitely not buying Microsoft points. 

[Azazel]

Bethesda also announced a release date of May 5 for the Broken Steel DLC and some details on what it contains.  Possible spoilers for anyone who hasn't finished the game yet.

If that's 360/PC only again I'll firebomb Bethesda's offices.

Might be they have a GTA-thing going with MS?

[MisterNoisy]

Bethesda also announced a release date of May 5 for the Broken Steel DLC and some details on what it contains.  Possible spoilers for anyone who hasn't finished the game yet.

If that's 360/PC only again I'll firebomb Bethesda's offices.

I hope that BethSoft's insurance is paid up then, since they've already said as much.

[Tebonas]

Buying a multiplatform RPG on a console from a company that in the past was known to make their games highly modable was dumb to begin with.

They introduced Dogmeat reincarnation. You are not allowed to touch them.