I See What You Did There. A Vanguard Review.

[Tmon]

Heck just have two damage pools, one for pvp one for pve.   Then you could have a damage spell do 200  damage when cast at a mob and 100 damage when cast at a player.  Heal spells would heal both pools at the same time but would heal 200 points against the pve pool and only 100  in the pvp pool.

[Murgos]

HAY GUYS!  I gots an ideas.  Why not make mobs and players have equivalent hit points and attack ability at a given level and then you don't have to dork around with pvp/pve damage tables.

OH NOS!  You men players will be fighting mobs higher level then themselves when in a groups!!!  How can this be?  Dev Rule #1 "Make player feel inferior" must be obeyed!!!

[Sky]

Murgos, that breaks rule #1 of mmo: start relatively powerful (rat pwner), end incredibly gimpy (raid peon).

Friggin mmo. You guys crack me up.

[shiznitz]

Newest wrinkle: Sigil has banned a bunch of people for having too much money. Brad always said he wanted to fight RMT, but is this the best way to do it this early in the game?

http://forums.station.sony.com/vg/posts/list.m?topic_id=2815

http://forums.tentonhammer.com/showthread.php?t=7708

There are reports of RMT email spam and /tells in game but I haven't seen them myself yet.

To put the amounts in perspective, the nicest housing plots are 50g, I believe, so if some players already have 20g you can see how Sigil might be alarmed.

[Miasma]

I sure as hell hope they have more evidence than just the amount of gold on the characters, something like logs of large amounts of coin being traded between people who have never met before.  The hard-core crafter community who earned all that money is one of the last communities you would want to piss off en masse.

I've stopped playing, turns out I did only like it because of my guild.  But they were on the PvP server and I just can't stand PvP, I don't like getting killed while crafting and I take no joy in kills I make, lose-lose.  After I had some fun burning through a half dozen of the newbie areas on a PvE server I quit because I had to spend an hour grinding out the last bit of level six on my gnome due to lack of quests.  The future was no brighter.

[HaemishM]

Since coin-banking only recently was added, and you could lose every cent you had on a PVP server, I can see many people emailing themselves all their money on a level 1 alt. That should be obvious to anyone who has paid attention to the community in the game.

Oh wait, this is McQuaid. The community doesn't exist.

[shiznitz]

Brad posted

I can't get into specifics, but we are well over 100,000 and growing steadily every day.

in thread at Ten Ton Hammer that was speculating about sales/subscribers. What the "100,000" actually is remains unclear and we will likely never know given SOE's tight lips.

[Engels]

I have this image of Brad behind an executive desk with a huge WW2 poster stating "Loose Lips Sink Ships MMOs"

[shiznitz]

Brad posted

I can't get into specifics, but we are well over 100,000 and growing steadily every day.

in thread at Ten Ton Hammer that was speculating about sales/subscribers. What the "100,000" actually is remains unclear and we will likely never know given SOE's tight lips.

Clarifying, the 100,000 is box sales/digital downloads according to Nino on the FoH forums. I am link lazy, sorry.

[Nebu]

I have this image of Brad behind an executive desk with a huge WW2 poster stating "Loose Lips Sink Ships MMOs"

The sign I see is more like:

"MMOG's: When one full-time job isn't enough."

[schild]

Funny, because these are what he actually has on his wall:

[schild]

These can be seen in various cubicles around the office.

[Sky]

The one at my desk:

[Margalis]

Interesting that nearly all the people on this board that liked Vanguard have now either already quit or cooled to it. If what we are seeing here is any indication those 100k box sales are going to end up as 30k subs...

People realize that potential doesn't mean squat in the present tense.

[Engels]

I was luke warm to it, but am still playing, mostly because the girlfriend, of all people, really is enjoying it. I'm mostly in it for the crafting. They did do a nice job on various weapon types and styles, with different types per ore level. It is grindy tho. Not quite mind crushing at my level, but if EQ's anything to go buy, what I call a grind at level 18 smith will look like a skip and a hop by level 40-50.

[Surlyboi]

[Rithrin]

Although a lot of people have probably already up and quit, the last patch seems to have a lot of people happy. Less memory leak, the client runs better, FPS is higher, and XP is a good amount faster. In fact, it got me to give it another try over the weekend. If the patches continue like this, it'll help. Whether or not its too late is another issue.

[Nebu]

I can hardly wait until there are lots of level 45+ people all clammoring to get into the same 5 dungeons.  Won't that be fun?!?

[Trippy]

camp check!

[Sky]

I like when people up and quit. So much better than just quitting. I knew a guy once who down and quit. Never heard from him again. Sometimes I just up, but don't quit.

[Xanthippe]

Coming to the thread late, only read first and last pages.

Brilliant review.  Told me everything I need to know without wasting my time. 

Thank you.

[jpark]

Well I still can't load this game.

After reviewing subsequent posts in this thread - I think I will dump it my garbage and consider this the moment I save myself opportunity cost by "playing" this crap.