Battlestar Galactica (spoilers/speculation)

[Kitsune]

I'd be surprised if that six survived.  She took two square in the chest at point-blank, and it looked like the second shot while she was down hit right under her ribcage, at an angle that should've nailed her heart.  On the other hand, I don't recall seeing any blood, so either they were censoring the hell out of the scene and not showing the bloodspray that should've been covering everyone, or she had some kind of body armor under her thin top.

[Fordel]

On the next episode previews here, they have a camera angle of someone on a operating table with that oxygen mask being put on them, I assumed that was the Six that got shot.

[Lantyssa]

I don't think they're worried about the accuracy of bullet placement.  It's about drama!  Adama was hit squarely in the chest, too.  There was some blood, but not a lot.

Are the Eights modeled on Assassins?  They seems to like shooting people at close range.  Not very good ones I suppose, since they keep doing it with rooms full of people.  And their victims survive.

[Lantyssa]

Some news on a blog about casting for Caprica.

[Ookii]

Oh look it's the chick from Rome, she's kinda hot for being old.

I'd love to see the bookmark lists of the sites you visit everyday.

[Lantyssa]

I'd love to see the bookmark lists of the sites you visit everyday.

several webcomics
giveawayoftheday
abcnews
f13

365gay - occasionally
pam's houseblend - when I want to see bloggers write about news that pisses me off
livejournal - to watch a couple of community journals and wallow in emo

Plus a couple of websites I maintain so I should make sure they're working periodically.

It's not an exciting list.

[Tebonas]

You make websites that only work periodically?

Hows the market for that? 

[Ookii]

I was trying to be a jackass because the link is to 'Gay Geek', I'd thought there would be a lot of gay niche tech sites and whatnot.

[Lantyssa]

I'm sure there are plenty of niche sites.  There are gay and girl gaming sites I visit rarely, but I get enough gay culture from friends that I don't need to have my entire online life be coloured by the gay experience.  I'd rather get involved in other niche sites.  Like f13.

You make websites that only work periodically?

Hows the market for that? 

It's great!  Job security.  They have to call me to make it work.

[Kitsune]

Given that I've never had the thought of, 'Gee, I'd better see what boys who like vaginas think about this game!', I consider it unlikely that a common thought among the gay boys is, 'Gee, I'd better see what boys who like cock think about this game!'  Unless they're the crazed gay fanboys who go around covered in rainbow necklaces and bracelets and have half a dozen pink triangles on their car.  I could totally see them going for a gay gamer site.

Fortunately, I think that most gamers hold their sexual preference apart from the games they play, and everyone's better off that way.

[Raguel]

still downloading, but wow, that bad, eh? 

[Merusk]

I think only two folks here actually watch it on the night and time it airs.  I was busy last night so that puts it down to one.  I plan on watching it on the dvr later today, after the mowing and weed-pulling is done.

[Raguel]

The q-2-3 crowd hated it, but frankly this is my fave ep this season.

"I need your judgment".

"I'm not asking them".

I take Haemish's point about forced drama vs. real drama. I think it's been apparent ever since they introduced Adm. Caine (Kane? I forget, heh). For the most part the writers stayed away from it this episode, but they are addicted to it and can't help themselves (and trust me, you'll know when they cave )

[Margalis]

To me a lot of the plot was a retread. Odama goes out on his own in a single ship to quest for something nobody else believes in - where have I heard that before?

The confrontation between Lee and the lawyer guy didn't make any sense. My cat is dead - wtf? Seemed really out of character.

[Oban]

The confrontation between Lee and the lawyer guy didn't make any sense. My cat is dead - wtf? Seemed really out of character.

Family and death/loss seemed to be the themes the writers wanted to drill home during this episode.

The lawyer lost his family, the only link he had to them died, he could not accept this loss and it made him remember the past/go suicidal.

Meh, please to be blowing things up next time.

[Raguel]

Margalis:

yah, the bit with the cat was what I was alluding to. This stuff happened in the last 10 15 min. IMO it was a good episode until it went off the rails when he pulled out the gun. IIRC Bill left after that too.

In any case, your point is still valid: we've seen the military vs. civilian gov't stuff before too. I guess I just hate all the religious babbling and visions stuff so much it clouds my judgment ;)

[Tale]

The lawyer lost his family, the only link he had to them died, he could not accept this loss and it made him remember the past/go suicidal.

I wondered if he was being reintroduced to become the potential fifth cylon. He's so smart, perhaps he suspects it already? He's a superb actor playing the best new character from the last season - perhaps they've had him in mind all along.

Aside from that, I thought it was the worst ever episode of BSG. Lame scenes that achieved very little.

It almost looks like the plot is being determined by the availability of the actors. Mary McDonnell has put in for some time off, so they've jumped her out. Edward James Olmos appears to be taking his holidays next. When was this filmed - Christmas?

[Margalis]

The wierd thing is most of these espisodes have very strong plot points, they just get subsumed by dumber ones.

For example in this episode you have:
The revelation that Tigh fucked a Cylon.
Tigh taking over command of the fleet.

The problem is that both were handled in 2 minutes or less. Tigh fucking a Cylon could be multiple episodes in itself, instead it was treated as almost at throwaway. And then moments later Odama hands the keys over to Tigh?

[Oban]

Well, we already know that Cylons can reproduce.

Chef and plain-jane.
Athena and the Hero.
So why not cyclops and six?

Also, Tigh having control of the battlestar fits in to the whole "the final five will lead you to earth" meme.

[Tale]

Odama

That's twice now. I thought you were doing it because Lee became president. But Adama seems to have gone all Obama in your posts.

[Oban]

To me a lot of the plot was a retread. Hussein goes out on his own in a single ship to quest for something nobody else believes in - where have I heard that before?

The confrontation between Lee and the lawyer guy didn't make any sense. My cat is dead - wtf? Seemed really out of character.

Fixed.

[tazelbain]

>The confrontation between Lee and the lawyer guy didn't make any sense. My cat is dead - wtf? Seemed really out of character.
It was a scam to get Lee to commit to being president.

[Merusk]

>The confrontation between Lee and the lawyer guy didn't make any sense. My cat is dead - wtf? Seemed really out of character.
It was a scam to get Lee to commit to being president.

That makes tons more sense, as he was talking to the damn cat before he left.  i was all  when he said it was his cat in the bag.

[Margalis]

I have Obama on the brain! 

[rattran]

I hate when I get distracted and see the next week teaser bit at the end of the episode.

Wtf? Looks like Xena just told Roslin that she's one of the Final Five. Either misdirection or 

[Raguel]

Actually that bit with Romo: anyone else get flashbacks of Fight Club and that scene with Brad Pitt and the cashier? Well I didn't really get the cat was a Head Cat so that's what I thought at first. 

[Nevermore]

I hate when I get distracted and see the next week teaser bit at the end of the episode.

Wtf? Looks like Xena just told Roslin that she's one of the Final Five. Either misdirection or 

Complete misdirection I bet.  Xena was likely talking to Anders.

[eldaec]

Well, we already know that Cylons can reproduce.

Chef and plain-jane.
Athena and the Hero.
So why not cyclops and six?

Also, Tigh having control of the battlestar fits in to the whole "the final five will lead you to earth" meme.

Cyclops and Six are *both* cylons.

It's been established over and over that Cylons can't reproduce with other Cylons.

[Oban]

But love is a magical thing.

That was the missing ingredient before.

[Venkman]

I think only two folks here actually watch it on the night and time it airs.  I was busy last night so that puts it down to one.  I plan on watching it on the dvr later today, after the mowing and weed-pulling is done.

Time-shifting: the bane of advertisers everywhere

Everyone see the Eve-online commercial?

I liked the episode, but agree it was a lot of advancement-of-plots in a very short amount of time. Adama going from Capt Bligh to solo-hero could have been a subplot over two episodes. Lee going from nobody to President happened way too quick. Romo should have been in two or three episodes leading up to that, at least. I love that character. Giving Tigh command should have happen more than the mere few minutes from the time he and Adama were duking it out.

Who said something about vacation time? It probably wouldn't have occurred to me had someone not mentioned that, but the way the plots are being hamfisted these days, I am getting that distinct impression.

As to Roslin being one of the final five according to Deanna: yea, I think that was a teaser-misdirect too.

[HaemishM]

The confrontation between Lee and the lawyer guy didn't make any sense. My cat is dead - wtf? Seemed really out of character.

There is no "in character" anymore. None of these characters even has their own character anymore, they are ciphers for the writers/creators/producers political and philosophical ideas. This episode was EPIC FAIL BAD. It was fucking retarded.

Tigh was fucking a Cylon captive in the holding cell, got her pregnant, and he and the Admiral fight about it. Then Adama gets all weepy about Roslin and decides to leave the ship AND GIVE IT TO THE GUY FUCKING THE CYLON PRISONER? WHAT... THE... FUCK? That makes so fucking sense in any universe. He's essentially committing suicide on "faith?" And giving over the whole human race to a guy that might have raped a prisoner? WHAT? Oh, and he released the Cylon assassin AGAIN despite her having potentially fucked up the entire alliance between the Cylon rebels and humans?

The whole Lee is president thing was SO telegraphed from the very beginning, and it also made NO FUCKING SENSE. If there is actually a Vice-President that is legally named as VP, the military refusing to recognize his authority IS A FUCKING COUP. And no one even bothers to mention that. Adama has essentially usurped legal civil authority and should have been court-martialed. But no, we want Lee to be president because he's shown such good judgement in the past. And their use of Roman with the dead cat just completely fucking ruined what I thought was a good character.

They had been improving, but this episode was just loads of fail.

[Margalis]

Well, we already know that Cylons can reproduce.

Yes, but the revelation that your XO has been fucking a Cylon prisoner is somewhat major no?

Yeah Haemish, the characters now simply act in service of the plot. You can almost see the writer's fingers moving them around.

[Abagadro]

I agree. Bad episode.

I was under the impression that Athena was still in the brig, just that Adama let her have her daughter back.

[Venkman]

Yea. They were pretty clear about that. Athena's in lockup with her kid.

Oh, and he released the Cylon assassin AGAIN despite her having potentially fucked up the entire alliance between the Cylon rebels and humans?

Something just occurred to me: does anyone on the Basestar actually know Athena killed the Six? If I recall, she shot, the hybrid was plugged back in, they jumped out, all at the same time. No resurrection ship to rez the Six and therefore it's possible only the Galactica crew know what's up. Could be a setup for a future confrontation down the road. Or it could be a bygones-be-bygones thing telegraphed off of Lee's little speech with Romo.

[Riggswolfe]

A few points:

Romo with a gun: Complete setup and test of Lee. Remember, Romo is all about theatrical tricks to lead people where he wants them to go. I'm still on the fence about the cat, it did get shown, but only from Romo's point of view so maybe that part was "the Sixth Sense: Cat Edition". Or maybe foreshadowing Romo as one of the final five, which I'd greatly enjoy tbh.

Adama: Adama was clearly losing it in this episode in more ways than one. The writers have one hell of a job on their hands to get the civies and the military to respect him again. All this stuff with Adama felt like the writers were catering to the Adama/Roslin shippers.

Lee: Lee could be an interesting President. My prediction? Roslin is too sick when she gets back to resume her duties so Lee becomes the permanent President. Adama takes back his Admiral rank upon their return and we have episodes dealing with the fact that the Adamas have taken charge of both military and civilian life. Expect to see Zarek leading some kind of Fifth Column against them.

No one talked about that moment between Natalie and Doc Cottle. What did you think that was all about? Also, in the timeline, would the resurrection hub have still been up? Were they close enough for her to come back?