Tabu..wait... Richard Garriott back from the dead

[HRose]

Alan Dunkin posted the link on Q23. They are taking applications for beta. (direct link)

I wonder why so much silence these last months. They've been VERY quiet.

[Nonentity]

Alan Dunkin posted the link on Q23. They are taking applications for beta.

I wonder why so much silence these last months. They've been VERY quiet.

I don't know. I shook Richard Garriot's hand at last E3, and he was very enthusiastic about me trying it out (I didn't - but I did the year previous).

Then it just kinda disappeared.

On another note, I still have the cool PlayNC bag from E3 though, the one with all the heroes from their games assaulting some unknown foe in the distance.

[sinij]

How about direct link to beta application? Middle-man parasitic sites (playtr) 4tl.

[Edit: It seems playtr is studio in charge, web design 4tl]

[Nonentity]

How about direct link to beta application? Middle-man parasitic sites (playtr) 4tl.

[Edit: It seems playtr is studio in charge, web design 4tl]

plaync.com, playtr.com - it's all the same.

But playcoh.com is a fansite! Go figure.

[WayAbvPar]

Thanks for the heads up. I am curious enough to beta test this.

[LC]

Is it still a carebear fps?

[Nonentity]

Is it still a carebear fps?

I heard you can break into other people's space apartments if you stack lazer rifles on the ground.

True story.

[Trippy]

Thanks for the link HRose.

[Venkman]

Is it still a carebear fps?

Far as I know, yes.

Thanks for the link Hrose. This one has excited me, in both forms. I still am not sure it'll launch, but I want to see what they've done since E3. Even then it was very compelling (PvE of course). I found the control system very passable. Better than Planetside, not as fast as an FPS, but good for someone who sucks at FPS :)

It helped I was being escorted through an adventure by a Destination rep (I think they were doing that at random or based on a specific computer), using the integrated VoIP. But really, I really want to see more development of none-purely-stat-based turn-taking dice-roll engines. There's always a place for those, and CoH does a good job of hiding it most times. But I'd rather see someone attempt to hybrid an FPS down to dice rather than an RPG up to twitch for a change.

[geldonyetich]

Well, I've applied.

Last I heard, it was no more a FPS than Neocron.  In other words, put crosshair over target, pull the trigger, and stats determine what happens.  I think that you always hit, but your stats determine damage, or somesuch.

Also last I heard, Tabula Rasa has taken an alien battlefield spin.  In other words, you spend all your time running around battlefields with friends fighting back armies of aliens.

I applied.

[CmdrSlack]

Wow, my video card sucks too much to meet their beta minimum specs.  Time to see how cheap AGP graphics cards are these days.

[LK]

I think I'd kill to do a 40-man raid in an online MMO FPS.  That sounds hawt.

[sinij]

Is it still a carebear fps?

Far as I know, yes.

Why? Can someone please explain to me how PvE FPS is a good thing? Its like co-op chess, where you can only move but not take.

[Signe]

I have to agree with Sinij here.  Oh my God.

[damijin]

Is it still a carebear fps?

Far as I know, yes.

Why? Can someone please explain to me how PvE FPS is a good thing? Its like co-op chess, where you can only move but not take.

It's not a good idea. And it's not even a PvE FPS. It's a PvE Fake-FPS with hefty quantities of dice rolls to ensure alienation of both the FPS crowd and everyone else who was traumatized by myg0t in Counter-Strike and have been afraid of guns in video games ever since. I'm going to cry if this game actually finds a sizable audience, because it just screams against all reason and common sense.

It ends up being a lot like an aborted mermaid fetus. It's interesting, but it does raise questions. Like, if the bottom half is fish, shouldn't it lay eggs?

[Venkman]

I have to agree with Sinij here.  Oh my God.

Oh my God that it's PvE FPS? Or Oh my God you had to agree with Sinij? :)

In any case, it actually worked pretty well I thought. It's not as obvious as Planetside in the "not really an FPS game" feel. It's probably closest to Neocron, but I only played that in beta and that was long ago.

Damijin is right, I think, in that this will alienate the FPS crowd. However I think they did that already by not integrating PvP anyway. This is more for the "tired of the same old purely-time-based UI of WoW" crowd (even though I don't think it's purely-time-based). They want something different. The actual FPS crowd is well-fed by the games that continually come for them. Who'd drop Gears of War or BF2142 for a generic-IP pseudo-FPS from a no-name company founded by that-wierd-guy who lives in a castle that-made-some-game-I heard-about-but-never-played 20 years ago anyway?

TR is for the person seeking a massive RPG with a new UI, not the FPS player seeking huge battles. In theory their hope would lie with Huxley, but I have yet to see a Planetside-sized battle in that game either.

[sinij]

I have to agree with Sinij here.  Oh my God.

Oh my God that it's PvE FPS? Or Oh my God you had to agree with Sinij? :)

I'd guess both, now can someone post a graph?

[Strazos]

I think the FPS mechanics could be interesting, especially if they allow the use of the mouse wheel to cycle through abilities. I really think healing could be neat if I simply targeted by pointing at the person I want to heal.

[Sky]

Yeah, PvE FPS? Total fucking garbage. Like System Shock, Deus Ex or Thief.

There are plenty of games for you pwntards to play. I'm more concerned about the 'not-fps' aspects than the lack of pvp.

[garthilk]

Personally I thought this game had died in some corner licking it's wounds. Guess it's healed up a bit.

[sinij]

Yeah, PvE FPS? Total fucking garbage. Like System Shock, Deus Ex or Thief.

You are talking about story-driven single player RPG and we are talking about mmorpgs.

[Lantyssa]

Hellgate London is so going to suck, too.  No one wants PvE FPS games!

And they got rid of faerie unicorns.  Total trash.

[Signe]

What would possess a game that had faerie unicorns to EVER get rid of them?  I would play that game just for that reason!

[Lantyssa]

I would, too.  Only women would like faerie unicorns though, and we don't exist on the internet.

[Furiously]

What would possess a game that had faerie unicorns to EVER get rid of them?  I would play that game just for that reason!

I would, too.  Only women would like faerie unicorns though, and we don't exist on the internet.

My neices love their pretty ponies.

[Soln]

is there a Korean version of this planned or done?  Only asking, cause I'm curious otherwise how this got greenlit.

[Lantyssa]

Really cute, Furiously.

[Evangolis]

My sound card doesn't meet the basic specs, and my CPU is just shy of them.  3gig of RAM recommended?  My Goodness.  Think I'll stick to Minesweeper, it's all my PC appears to be good for.

General comment on the comments here.  We appear to have two modes on publicity:  A) Quit hyping your vaporware! B) OMG, I thought you guys were dead.  Is it possible that not hyping a game between the hiring push and beta start is a reasonable choice?

[WindupAtheist]

My reaction to TR reminds me of my reaction to SWG, in that I want to be a fanboy, but just can't seem to care.

[Hoax]

Someone needs to  -post on this one.  I didn't sign up but only because I fucking hate beta's.

[Nebu]

You know... a pseudo PvE-FPS does have some value in a proof-of-concept sort of way.  If it works with AI, it may be adapted to a PvP engine. 

That aside, I'd never pay to play it. 

[geldonyetich]

If it's FPS PvP with MMO-progression you're looking for, there's another soon-to-be-released NCSoft game that'll meet your needs fine.  There's also Huxley.

Tabula Rasa is a coop pseudo-FPS with PvE alien fighting.  Y'all can tell me that automatically sucks if you want, but bear in mind that definition would include System Shock 2 and Gears of War.  Truly, two formidable robot Jesuses of games.

Tabula Rasa has potential up until I discover it's a buggy pile the match of Horizons or Vanguard.  That has yet to be determined.

[Falconeer]

Geldon, seems to me that you have with Tabula Rasa the same sick relationship I have had with Vanguard.

[Nebu]

Tabula Rasa is a coop pseudo-FPS with PvE alien fighting.  Y'all can tell me that automatically sucks if you want, but bear in mind that definition would include System Shock 2 and Gears of War.  Truly, two formidable robot Jesuses of games.

Yes, except you don't have to share them with thousands of mouth-breathers and all of the other trappings that go along with online multiplayer games.   Still, the lack of PvP makes me cry.

[geldonyetich]

I admit, I'm rooting for Tabula Rasa.  Richard Garriot > Brad McQuaid, in my book.  That's probably because I used to play a ton of games worked on by Lord British back in the C-64 days.  Granted, I liked WarWizard, too.

Apples and Oranges, really.  Tabula Rasa is not another EverQuest/WoW, it never had the goal of being another EverQuest/WoW... and that's why it has a chance.

(Granted, I admit it's a bit of a stretch putting "Tabula Rasa" and "Goal" in the same sentence seeing how they pulled at least one major redesigns through the development of the game.  Rainbow Unicorns -> Alien Battlefields.  Go fig.)