Wii Q&A Thread

[sigil]

Superior is relative.

I've seen enough high def TVs to know that I can personally wait until our current big screen fails. Some people can't, or don't want to. Good for them.

I can see that the Wii's got some issues, but the resolution / no included component cables isn't much of one for me.

We'll still pick one up if for no other reason than the virtual console.


Now, who's got a hands on of Madden 07?

[stray]

I would have never upgraded to HD if my previous TV hadn't burned out. Now that I have one though, I wouldn't go back.

[Jeff Kelly]

I would have never upgraded to HD if my previous TV hadn't burned out. Now that I have one though, I wouldn't go back.

Same for me

[sigil]

I'm sure it will be the same for me, but I've seen HD. it's nice, but I'm not swapping gear for it. I'll upgrade when this  one fails.

[Big Gulp]

I'm sure it will be the same for me, but I've seen HD. it's nice, but I'm not swapping gear for it. I'll upgrade when this  one fails.

Then you don't love beauty.

[schild]

I'm sure it will be the same for me, but I've seen HD. it's nice, but I'm not swapping gear for it. I'll upgrade when this one fails.

Then you don't love beauty.

Hi-def makes gaming more fun.

[sigil]

I call bullshit on all that. Shiny smooth graphics do :not: make a game intrinsically  more fun. If that was the case, the  the PS3's launch library wouldn't be the enormous load of ass that it is.

Nintendo  should have been a little more forthcoming on the component cables for you folks, but it's a non issue for most people who are buying it.



Think about this, someone, somewhere will be using a ps/3 with an RF adapter :P

[stray]

Think about this, someone, somewhere will be using a ps/3 with an RF adapter :P

No doubt the same guy who paid 15k for one. Ironically enough.

[Ezdaar]

Q: When are they getting more in Phoenix?

[HaemishM]

I wrote my first impressions on my blog. Totally positive.

I have not gotten online yet, and am in no hurry. I'll have to buy one of those $40 dongle things for my computer to do so, and I'd rather buy another Wiimote. But my experience was all butter. Zelda is the shiznit, and I should be getting Red Steel and Call of Duty 3 in the Gameznflix shipment today or tomorrow.

To the people who bought a PS3... LOLCOPTER. Enjoy your Hi-Def wallet raping void and your frigid hours-long waits. The Wii is pure fun and much less trouble.

In 3 years when I'm buying the new Hi-Def Nintendo console to go with my Hi-Def TV, I'll think back on the complaints about component cables and get a hearty chuckle.

[stray]

It's about the games people. Sony is no one to scoff at in that respect. Sooner or later.

We should all hug.

[schild]

Funny, given the number of patches the Wii required out of the box, especially if you wanted VC stuff, it took about twice as long to get into a game as it did on the PS3.

[schild]

Q: When are they getting more in Phoenix?

Whereabouts are you in Phoenix. I can probably help. You might have to meet me though. /disfigurednotreallythoughinternet

[tazelbain]

It's a trap!   Don't you watch Dataline?

[Ezdaar]

I'm in Tempe. I was going to hit up the local Targets and Costcos but I doubt they have any left.

It's not super urgent for me but I'd like to have one at some point in the near future. I was under the impression that Nintendo was going to be resupplying pretty quick, if that's not the case I might have to start looking a bit harder.

[dusematic]

lol

[schild]

I'm in Tempe. I was going to hit up the local Targets and Costcos but I doubt they have any left.

It's not super urgent for me but I'd like to have one at some point in the near future. I was under the impression that Nintendo was going to be resupplying pretty quick, if that's not the case I might have to start looking a bit harder.

How do you feel about Black Friday?

[Ezdaar]

Going to be in San Diego. Appreciate the help though. I'll just have to hold out a bit longer I suppose.

[HaemishM]

Funny, given the number of patches the Wii required out of the box, especially if you wanted VC stuff, it took about twice as long to get into a game as it did on the PS3.

I needed no patches for Zelda. I'm not even connected to the Internet with it, and I'm quite sure my experience will be more common than yours when it comes to opening the system.

[Nija]

The wii is the ultimate party system. Played many hours yesterday at a friends house, and people were more interested in it than the football games. They have the sunday ticket package with 3x HDTVs showing football games in different rooms, along with an awesome pool table and a nearly full bar. The Wii drawing more attention than football/etc says a lot in an atmosphere like that.

I only played wii sports and Rampage, but I was holding my 9 month old the entire time. I was able to win 4 player rounds of rampage while holding a baby, walking around the room. That's technology right there.

[voodoolily]

We got up at 5 to get in line at the store that opens at 7, and I was #17 in line for the 18 units they were gettting (we had split up just in case). It didn't rain, and it wasn't windy. We had coffee and genuinely nice people in line with us. We were all excited to get Zelda and go home and play!

I have never gotten in line for anything, but as far as being communist Russia goes, it was pretty painless.

btw, Sauced figured out the problem with the Language Select screen - it was early and not enough sleep and a cord just hadn't gotten plugged in. Oopsie! But we had a lot of fun setting up our Miis and making a Mii to resemble each of our out-of-town friends. Now we can see Danno and Christy walking around as little cartoons on our teevee! Yay!

My forearm is really sore today - I'm thinking of picking up some wrist weights to make this actually like exercise.

[Xanthippe]

Picked up my preorder yesterday morning at 8am.  Got home, set it up (including making Miis for each of us and setting them to "travel mode" whatever the fuck that is), and the kids have dominated it since.   They are now at school, so I'm going to go play with it.

Noticed the online thing - other than ordering new games (got Donkey Kong, Sim City and Super Mario 64) - is not working.  Looking forward to it working.

I like the Wii-mote - although it seems sensitive, I'm sure I'll get used to it sooner rather than later.

[Roac]

schild:  You don't need to patch to play.  Out of the box, toss in a game and play.  I think it fusses at you about patching if you try to get online, but the whole thing is quick over broadband and automated. 

Haemish:  When you get them, play Red Steel first.  It got a 5.5 on Gamespot for good reason.  It's still cool just because the Wiimote is cool, but I think if play CoD3 and go back to RS, you'll lose interest.  Let us know how CoD3 plays though.

[schild]

schild: You don't need to patch to play. Out of the box, toss in a game and play. I think it fusses at you about patching if you try to get online, but the whole thing is quick over broadband and automated.

Wanted to play SimCity out of the box. Didn't really want to play stuff that should be 480p without the Component cables. Still don't. I thought it would be automated. Turns out you have to press buttons at the beginning and end. I only realized this after I sat outside for 30 minutes with one of my roommates to find that nothing had happened.

See, it's not that I'm knocking the system. The system (short of friend codes and the complete lack of anything remotely resembling a "Connect24" service) is fine. It's a Ninty system. It gets the job done. I'm knocking the process compared to the PS3. The PS3 update was faster, more automated, and altogether cleaner. Adding friends is easier. Doing almost anything on the PS3 is easy. It's odd, I thought of the 3 systems, the PS3 would be the most annoying to work with. Turns out it's the least annoying. I'd say the 360 is the most annoying simply because of the massive number of menus. They're all easy to navigate - but each has its annoyances. We're talking base-level decisions that should have resulted in delaying the systems.

Everything that doesn't involve just putting a game in and playing on a Wii (or making a Mii) is just half-baked to me. Nintendo doesn't understand online services. I hope they get this shit straightened out by the time SSBB comes out.

Don't worry, I have lots of complaints for the PS3. And they're completely different than the ones for the Wii. IMO, neither Nintendo or Sony were ready to put out a new system and Microsoft managed - SOMEHOW - to get it absolutely right. 110% right in fact compared to these two units. The 360 launch had shipment issues, and a mediocre launch lineup, but everything they promised within 3 months of the launch was delivered and working perfectly. They've even gotten Live patches out when they said they would.

Sony on the other hand has said nothing about the 1080i issue. Nintendo kept friend codes and has not delivered on Connect24. These are not minor issues. Unfortunately, I can get over the 1080i thing because my set does 720p as well. The friend code shit and half-baked online service with the Wii I can not get over so easily though.

[Tige]

Got Wii, extra controller, nunchuck and Zelda yesterday morning, local Best Buy had 63.  Showed up approximately 3 hours early and had no problems.  If I had waited 15 minutes later there would have been.

Got home plugged into our 54' HD DLP.  Thought I'd make sure everything worked before I got around to the Mii stuff, updating and the like.  Still haven't done it, hell haven't even properly set up the wii motes yet.  Just synched the new one and set location of sensor bar. 

Wii Sports is simple but absolute fun, watching two players box is hilarious, they bob, weave and duck punches.  Golf is a tad bit aggravating from time to time on the finesse shots but not a game killer.  Tennis is probably my favorite.

Zelda sans HD is fine.  I'll pick up the cables in the future I'm sure but no rush.  Proof that more polygons does not mean more fun.

I'll pick up a couple more titles, cables and stuff in the next week or two.  Out of the box there are no outside the box must haves before you can play.

I'm hoping either nintendo or 3rd parties come up with some wieghted controllers and nunchucks.



 

[schild]

It's the same damn game we've all been playing for the last 15-odd years. Hey, guess what? You get to go into dungeons...and find items...and put together pieces of heart to make new heart containers. I haven't gotten very far into it, but I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that Triforce is in the mix at some point.

There's a difference between tradition and ossification, and Nintendo's been content to let this series stay the same for too damn long. What's more, in a lot of ways it's actually getting to be pretty annoying.

Gamespot getting their shit together? That was their response to fanbois complaining about anything less than a 9.8.

[HaemishM]

There are a few third-party guys coming up with peripherals you place your Wiimote in, like a driving wheel and such. Those things will be totally unnecessary, but probably add to the games.

[Margalis]

That complaint seems pretty silly to me. People expect a Zelda game. Of course you get heart container pieces and such. It certainly isn't the same game as the SNES Zeldas, but I would expect it to be similar to the N64 ones. It's a sequel. Can't you say the same thing about Dead or Alive, Mortal Combat, Doom, Unreal Tournament, every realistic WW2 shooter, etc etc?

I think that complaint can have some merits like Sonic 3 being a longer, more boring version of Sonic 2. When you just redesign some levels and call it a new game that is pretty weak, but I can think of many franchises where that applies much more than Zelda. Smackdown vs. Raw this year is basically the same as last year with messed up commentary, fewer CAW options, a ton of deleted moves, glitches, deleted match types - by that logic it deserves a 5.

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Anyway Wii sports is awesome, looking forward to playing it with 4 people. It *is* a great have friends over sort of game.

[Rasix]

It's the same damn game we've all been playing for the last 15-odd years. Hey, guess what? You get to go into dungeons...and find items...and put together pieces of heart to make new heart containers. I haven't gotten very far into it, but I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that Triforce is in the mix at some point.

There's a difference between tradition and ossification, and Nintendo's been content to let this series stay the same for too damn long. What's more, in a lot of ways it's actually getting to be pretty annoying.

Gamespot getting their shit together? That was their response to fanbois complaining about anything less than a 9.8.

Gamespot gave Deus Ex an 8.2.  Some of their reviews for what are considered great games are less than outstanding (I'm not calling Zelda a great one, never played it).

If you read the review, they actually liked the game but expected something revolutionary out of a Zelda game.  Dumbasses.  They're complaints about some of the "revolutionary" Wii features seems pretty justified and common sensical.

The review specifically said water dungeon.  So.. uhh.. I may be skipping this one. 

[Litigator]

See, it's not that I'm knocking the system. The system (short of friend codes and the complete lack of anything remotely resembling a "Connect24" service) is fine. It's a Ninty system. It gets the job done. I'm knocking the process compared to the PS3. The PS3 update was faster, more automated, and altogether cleaner. Adding friends is easier. Doing almost anything on the PS3 is easy. It's odd, I thought of the 3 systems, the PS3 would be the most annoying to work with. Turns out it's the least annoying. I'd say the 360 is the most annoying simply because of the massive number of menus. They're all easy to navigate - but each has its annoyances. We're talking base-level decisions that should have resulted in delaying the systems.

Everything that doesn't involve just putting a game in and playing on a Wii (or making a Mii) is just half-baked to me. Nintendo doesn't understand online services. I hope they get this shit straightened out by the time SSBB comes out.

Dude, you've been bagging on Nintendo since we lived in the SCC. I know you hated OoT, which everybody else thinks is one of the greatest games ever, because we had that argument back when we couldn't wait to see how awesome the Matrix sequel was going to be. I'm surprised you even bought it.

I don't know how you can quote the Gamespot crankiness about the Zelda series's "ossification" when you think the whole thing should still be in 2D, though. Frankly, Gamespot may be right. Ocarina is as old now as Link to the Past was when Ocarina came out, and it's time for another radical revamp. But, in defense of Twilight Princess, it's built as a Gamecube title, and when they actually do a real, ground-up Wii Zelda, it will probably answer all those issues and do some innovative stuff with the controller. It sounds like that's happening with Mario.

What I want to know is when they will give us a new "Wave Race?"

[Sairon]

Actually, the real review complained about diffrent things, at least the video review. The wiimote was just a very unresponsive button, just forced on. And they found it cheap that there was no voice acting, and that it was still the same sample based sound track. They did mention that it wasn't very original as well though. Sure enough, a Zelda game should be a Zelda game, but there's a thin line between sticking true to the formula and just doing what EA does, add a few months of development and slap a new label on it.

[Margalis]

No voice acting is a huge plus in my book. Real voices get old fast even when they are good.

[stray]

Gosh. It's almost gotten to the point where I can't stand games without voice acting. I don't even care if it's great or not. Just so long as it's not foreign (unless that's the character's schtick, of course). I want a multimedia experience. I'm not fucking playing Zork.

[Margalis]

I don't like voice acting, in part because I can read a lot faster than voice acting can act. REALLY REALLY good voice acting is ok I guess, but otherwise I just don't care at all.

Now if your game has a lot of CGI cut-scenes doing them without any voice acting would be a bit odd, but for something like Zelda I don't really care at all. I can't imagine Link actually speaking with a real voice, I'm sure people would immediately complain that he didn't sound like they thought he would...

I've never understood the knock on Nintendo for making "unoriginal" sequels. Nintendo makes plenty of original games and when they stray from formula people complain. In addition they don't pump out a new version every year.

Look at how many Resident Evil games there have been compared to Zelda games in the same time period. (Not counting portable versions)

OOT
Majora's Mask
Windwaker
(Four swords - not sure I would count this)

vs.

Resident Evil
RE 2
RE 3
RE: Zero
RE: Online
RE: Online 2
RE: Remake
RE: Code Veronica
RE: 4


And Resident Evil had pretty crappy core gameplay up until 4. For a series like RE I can totally understand someone saying "man, this game really needs an update" given that before 4 came out it had barely changed at all over 8 or so games. Or in the Sonic days where you had Sonic, Sonic 2, Sonic 3, Sonic and Knuckles and Sonic CD all in the same time period.

[schild]

Whoa there partner. You're fucking with the wrong series there. RE has been trying to (failing, but trying to) tell a cohesive story. Zelda reinvents the same story every time. Try comparing it to FF1-XII or something. But not RE. RE reinvented itself. All Zelda has done is gone 3d (that is not me leaving the barn open for an attack, I am not arguing that Zelda doesn't have some of the best dungeon design in the history of gaming). I'm saying the basic premise of Zelda did not change on the shift to 3D and it hasn't changed with Twilight Princess. RE4 changed radically. The fundamental gameplay shifted an ENTIRE GENRE. Zelda is still the baseline action RPG.

The series aren't alike and can't really be compared. Not even in their story structure.