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Nebu
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Reply #70 on: November 19, 2006, 12:28:57 PM

Could be worse - someone could have gone to the IRS, mentioned that WoWGlider bloke has sold X thousands of copies at $25 each, and they were wondering if he'd paid his taxes?

It's not too late!

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Reply #71 on: November 19, 2006, 06:49:03 PM

I caught one line in the MD story that really interested me:

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interfering with the contractual relationship with World of Warcraft's customers

The eula has been a very easy way to smack these people down, but there's a secondary issue here which is that this type of thing interferes with the rights of other players and it's interesting to see Blizzard/Vivendi exploring that direction as well. I've always thought there was a compelling case in the right of a gaming company as a "game official" to regulate the game according to the "rules" in the same manner that a sports league does. And that's really where I see the main issue, even if the eula/copyright thing is an easier case to make in court.

I don't think WoW Giider's author has the financial resources to combat Vivendi / Blizzard on this, but it would be interesting to see the EULA evaluated in a courtroom setting. After all, a judge could find it invalid, and wouldn't that be fun?

Blizzard has a history of legal action against those who create 3rd party apps for their programs. Afaik, none of these ever get to court because the authors choose to dump the app rather than be sued into bankrupcy.

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Reply #72 on: November 19, 2006, 07:21:21 PM

I don't think WoW Giider's author has the financial resources to combat Vivendi / Blizzard on this, but it would be interesting to see the EULA evaluated in a courtroom setting. After all, a judge could find it invalid, and wouldn't that be fun?

Blizzard has a history of legal action against those who create 3rd party apps for their programs. Afaik, none of these ever get to court because the authors choose to dump the app rather than be sued into bankrupcy.
The bnetd case went to court and Vivendi/Blizzard won twice (the original and the appeal).
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Reply #73 on: November 20, 2006, 12:39:52 AM


Viewpoint shift. People running WoWGlider are user scripted NPCs. How awesome is that.
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Reply #74 on: November 20, 2006, 08:44:52 AM

Uh, no, because Blizzard doesn't have control over what these "scripted NPC's" do, like they do with the regular NPC's.  Not to mention the fact that the "scripted NPC's" are non-killable and you can't get quests from them.
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Reply #75 on: November 20, 2006, 09:45:54 AM

Uh, no, because Blizzard doesn't have control over what these "scripted NPC's" do, like they do with the regular NPC's.  Not to mention the fact that the "scripted NPC's" are non-killable and you can't get quests from them.
That is a great idea!

Every botter gets taken over by the server.  Gathering bots offer quests for the items they are farming in return for gold or items (more than it is worth of course).  Others become the targets of kill quests, who still suffer durability loss but also have the potential of dropping pieces of their equipment and gold (from the bank, too).  The non-bot players get a new dynamic quest system plus get loot and experience for destroying the botters' characters.

For additional fun, the botter should be locked out of user input.  Logging in to the character gives them a first, or third as prefered, person view of life as a mob in WoW.

Hahahaha!  I'm really good at this!
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Reply #76 on: November 20, 2006, 09:52:31 AM

Logging in to the character gives them a first, or third as prefered, person view of life as a mob in WoW.

Heh.  It's actually a major headache, being a mob.  I've tried to mind-vision a few, and they turn 180, walk 3 steps, turn, walk 3 steps, turn, walk 3 steps...  the constant camera movement as it tries to follow is a pain, gave me headaches every time.
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Reply #77 on: November 20, 2006, 09:57:16 AM

Even better. evil

Hahahaha!  I'm really good at this!
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Reply #78 on: November 20, 2006, 01:59:13 PM

Blizzard doesn't have control over what these "scripted NPC's" do, like they do with the regular NPC's.  Not to mention the fact that the "scripted NPC's" are non-killable and you can't get quests from them.

That's the point.
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Reply #79 on: November 21, 2006, 09:06:09 AM

Could be worse - someone could have gone to the IRS, mentioned that WoWGlider bloke has sold X thousands of copies at $25 each, and they were wondering if he'd paid his taxes?

It's not too late!

I'm SURE someone has already.

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Reply #80 on: November 30, 2006, 11:41:31 AM


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Reply #81 on: December 22, 2006, 01:51:06 PM

Heh, a guy in my guild posted that he got banned. He said the only thing he could think of was that he let his Linux-using cousin in China use his account. He emailed Blizzard to find out what happened. He finally got in contact with his cousin and turn out that his cousin was using glide all the time. So he decides to try to place the honesty card and tell Blizzard what was going on.

Blizzard's response:
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In response to your account in question we have reviewed the details of the account closure and have found it was closed improperly. However, you email included the admission of guild upon the charge of a software client used to perform in game actions. In response to this we have no choice but to continue with the closure of your account.

So if he would have just kept his mouth shut, they would unban his account. Since he admitted that not only was the account shared but also used a bot program, he got the banstick. Dumbass.


i find it very odd there would be a typo like that

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Reply #82 on: December 22, 2006, 07:04:55 PM

Heh, a guy in my guild posted that he got banned. He said the only thing he could think of was that he let his Linux-using cousin in China use his account. He emailed Blizzard to find out what happened. He finally got in contact with his cousin and turn out that his cousin was using glide all the time. So he decides to try to place the honesty card and tell Blizzard what was going on.

Blizzard's response:
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In response to your account in question we have reviewed the details of the account closure and have found it was closed improperly. However, you email included the admission of guild upon the charge of a software client used to perform in game actions. In response to this we have no choice but to continue with the closure of your account.

So if he would have just kept his mouth shut, they would unban his account. Since he admitted that not only was the account shared but also used a bot program, he got the banstick. Dumbass.


i find it very odd there would be a typo like that

Nice necro, but I can't beleive I skimmed over this.  I highlighted another typo in the OP's quoted material.  Either the friend in the guild reproduced the email from memory or just manufactured the whole thing.  I find it hard beleive that money hat CS sends out emails with typos, and bad grammar to boot.


Witty banter not included.
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Reply #83 on: December 22, 2006, 07:21:50 PM

What I'd do if I was Blizzard is this:

1) Mascarade as a legitimate user to download the most recent version of Glide and evaluate it for a weakness that wouldn't affect a normal player.
2) Exploit said weakness to identify and ban all users of Glide at machine speeds (rather than trusting C/S or player moles to identify them for you).
3) When a new version of Glide comes out that defeats this weakness, repeat step #1.

Eventually, you bankrupt most everybody who uses Glide.  The tricky bit is just finding other applications you're not aware of yet.

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Reply #84 on: December 23, 2006, 04:40:53 PM


The following thread is just a congo line of pure stupid.

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