Lots banned in recent wave

[Shavnir]

I don't have a news link for it however if the Customer Support forums are any indication a very large number of botters just got banned. 

I think the most interseting thing is on the Wowglider forums there's a new thread, 24 pages long, of people talking about recent bans.  My bet is they modifed warden based on reverse engineering Wowglider and just steadily built up a list.

[Jayce]

I don't have a news link for it however if the Customer Support forums are any indication a very large number of botters just got banned. 

I think the most interseting thing is on the Wowglider forums there's a new thread, 24 pages long, of people talking about recent bans.  My bet is they modifed warden based on reverse engineering Wowglider and just steadily built up a list.

What's wowglider?

Is warden the process that searches your machine for bad stuff?

Sorry, I'm not as current on the l33t h4x as I ought to be.

[Shavnir]

Ah, my bad.

Quick summary :

Wowglider - Popular botting program.  Charges $25.  Claims to be undetectable.

Warden - WoW's anti-cheating measure.  Caused a bit of a stir because it checks process names and hashes them before sending them off to the server.  Checks a few other things as well, and can change what it checks silently to the user.

[Merusk]

This quote got me chuckling.

I keep people talking about Linux got them banned. What is Linux ? Why would it be illegal?

Several folks are claiming they got banned for using Auctioneer.  I wonder if they had "Bottomfeeder" installed if that was the case.  Hrm.

[Simond]

Wowglider - Popular botting program.  Charges $25.  Claims to be undetectable.

I'm pretty sure that ought to be 'claimed' now. :D

Anyway, I'd write the "Linux/Auctioneer/phase of the moon got me banz0r3d" claims off as botters trying to muddy the waters as per usual.

The forums for Glider are vastly amusing to read today - it's split between "I'm going to sue Blizzard for banning me! I've got rights!!!" (there isn't a rolleyes emoticon big enough), "I'm bored with the game anyway, now that I've botted half a jillion characters to 60" (well, maybe if you actually played the game....), and "It's a fair cop", with a smattering of "You said this bot was undetectable!" and other nonsense.

In related news - expect potion & enchant prices to start going back up a lot, and misc. AH gear prices to go up a little.

[bhodi]

I do wonder if it missed all the people using sony's DRM kernel hider to cloak the program....

[Shavnir]

anklemonitor is comedy gold

[Furiously]

"Still alot of time left for me to get bant though." 

Wonder how much money there is to be made botting in WOW.

[Simond]

At this precise moment in time?  :-D

[Morfiend]

I am very glad about this. The botting was getting out of control. It seemed like 3 out of 5 people leveling on my server where botting. Not that I minded that much, was fun to tap their mobs.

[Merusk]

I am very glad about this. The botting was getting out of control. It seemed like 3 out of 5 people leveling on my server where botting. Not that I minded that much, was fun to tap their mobs.

Ah so it's a very dumb bot program then.  Even better.  I've encountered a few that 1) Stopped following mobs after a while (so you couldn't kite it to drown in the 'fatigue' areas.) or 2) Knew when something was tapped and would abandon the mob it had previously been racing to.

Anyway, I'd write the "Linux/Auctioneer/phase of the moon got me banz0r3d" claims off as botters trying to muddy the waters as per usual.

Well, the Auctioneer one I could almost buy - IF - the individuals also were using "Bottomfeeder."  This was an add-on the Auctioneer people had developed that bought-up auctions on its own during a scan if they were within the money parameters you set.   They've since stopped dev on it because someone pointed out it was akin to botting. When the devs checked w/ Blizzard, Bliz indicated it was indeed a 'no-no'.    Sooo.. it's possible, but I agree unlikely, if only because BF was a fairly recent add-on & quickly removed.

Oh, and yes, anklemonitor is indeed comedy gold.

[Furiously]

I'm going to walk around smiling all day now.

[Furiously]

I'm going to walk around smiling all day now.

Well at least it gave me a few good minutes. I love the "I'm calling my credit card company and I'm going to dispute the charges, then go buy another copy of wow."

[Ironwood]

anklemonitor is comedy gold

What a fucking moron.  I can't even smile at him.

[schild]

I don't have a news link for it however if the Customer Support forums are any indication a very large number of botters just got banned. 

I think the most interseting thing is on the Wowglider forums there's a new thread, 24 pages long, of people talking about recent bans.  My bet is they modifed warden based on reverse engineering Wowglider and just steadily built up a list.

You mean lots of people have to buy another box - and will.

[Miasma]

What always makes me mad is how whenever a cheater is caught they rarely get embarrassed, remorseful or penitent, they get angry.  Not just in WoW but life in general. 

And if you have to buy that thing why is their forum even public?

[Furiously]

So you know it is quality software???

[Nebu]

please.... first of all fuck blizzard. as far as i am concerned if they ban them... their loss. i work on my char outside of the bot and if they want to swing a stick at me let them, once i have paid for the game, that toon all toons on that account are my property to do with as i like. i never upset anything in the sgame and i DARE them to prove otherwise. i sold at low and fair prices which ismore than i can say for legit players, and i played many toons to high lvls long before glider, i di my time and paid my dues, not even mentioning my actual non metaphorical dues each month. you can scoff all you like but let them try to ban me and see what happens legally. phshaw.

Saw this on those forums. I think people need to reread their EULA.

[jpark]

I don't get it.

If someone like Schild can level a protection specced Paladin to 60 - then I think anyone has the time to level a toon  

[Miasma]

please.... first of all fuck blizzard. as far as i am concerned if they ban them... their loss. i work on my char outside of the bot and if they want to swing a stick at me let them, once i have paid for the game, that toon all toons on that account are my property to do with as i like. i never upset anything in the sgame and i DARE them to prove otherwise. i sold at low and fair prices which ismore than i can say for legit players, and i played many toons to high lvls long before glider, i di my time and paid my dues, not even mentioning my actual non metaphorical dues each month. you can scoff all you like but let them try to ban me and see what happens legally. phshaw.

Saw this on those forums. I think people need to reread their EULA.

I like how he says "i sold at low and fair prices which ismore than i can say for legit players" like he's Robin Hood or something.  The idea that everyone else sells at higher prices because they actually had to work for it is completely lost on him.

I don't get it.

If someone like Schild can level a protection specced Paladin to 60 - then I think anyone has the time to level a toon 

I think he was just joking about having a 60 paladin.

[Righ]

Schild managed to grind a rogue up to level 12 or similar.

[schild]

Level 28 actually.

[Morat20]

Level 28 actually.

*golf clap*.

Rogue was fun for awhile. And then I realized: "This is all rogue will ever be". So my rogue only levels when I'm bored with everything else. I heard about the bannings, and tried to log into my account via the WoW forums -- I didn't used Glide (or bot), but I figure "Might as well check". I couldn't log in. Go to the account settings.

My account expired a month ago. I didn't notice. My wife's account -- same credit card -- still active. I had to resub. Weird.

[Threash]

Reading their banned forums gave me such a huge boner.  The lawsuits, the begging, the anger, the simply delicious crying, oh god theres even suicide notes.  I don't really understand why since i really don't care much about botters but reading those forums has put such a huge grin on my face.

[Jayce]

anklemonitor is comedy gold

What a fucking moron.  I can't even smile at him.

Amazing.. this guy is not only a clearly very experienced forum lawyer, he actually takes the position that botting is not upsetting to game balance, but selling twink items at a high cost is!!

GOLD!

[Furiously]

Would it be trolling there to state the truth?

I think this is the best case of people having a mistaken sense of entitement I have seen in a while.

[Ironwood]

THEY CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH !!!

[Ironwood]

Went on over there, but I don't know where to start.  Some of the things they are saying are just unbelievably ridiculous.

Nice writeup OMW. Glad to see there is a few sane ones left.

Chars Glided:
Warlock 1-60 x2
Paladin 1-60 x2
Warrior 1-60
Rogue 1-60
Hunter 1-60
Druid 1-60
Priest 1-60
No Shaman or Mages yet =(
I must glide 1 of everything!

I'm really, really tempted to ask this guy why the fucking hell he's paying for this game if he's also paying for a program to play it for him.

It really massacres my sense of belief, this one.  It's like someone out there made these forums up specifically to mess with my head.

[Nija]

Well, I know people who made thousands and thousands of dollars selling duped items and gold in DAOC and UO. WOW isn't any different.

Different year, different game, virtually the same type of exploit. Printing money.

[Ironwood]

Which is fine and a whole other kettle of fish, but it's clearly not why the nutsack above is using the program.

[Dren]

Which is fine and a whole other kettle of fish, but it's clearly not why the nutsack above is using the program.

Unless he is selling accounts. /shrug  That was quite lucrative in the UO days.

[Ironwood]

Heh.  Anyone selling accounts with WoWGlider has just burned quite a few of their clients.  Not that they'll care if they have the cash.

It's rampant insanity, whichever way you slice it.  Even if you stick with the 'Greed is Good' point of view.

[Shavnir]

Either way I think Blizzard is handling it pretty well.  Not sure if the "wait a while then ban them as an act of shock and awe" tactic has merit but in general they've made it a point to ban a considerably number of people for botting.

[Dren]

Heh.  Anyone selling accounts with WoWGlider has just burned quite a few of their clients.  Not that they'll care if they have the cash.

It's rampant insanity, whichever way you slice it.  Even if you stick with the 'Greed is Good' point of view.

Yes.

[lamaros]

Went on over there, but I don't know where to start.  Some of the things they are saying are just unbelievably ridiculous.

Nice writeup OMW. Glad to see there is a few sane ones left.

Chars Glided:
Warlock 1-60 x2
Paladin 1-60 x2
Warrior 1-60
Rogue 1-60
Hunter 1-60
Druid 1-60
Priest 1-60
No Shaman or Mages yet =(
I must glide 1 of everything!

I'm really, really tempted to ask this guy why the fucking hell he's paying for this game if he's also paying for a program to play it for him.

It really massacres my sense of belief, this one.  It's like someone out there made these forums up specifically to mess with my head.

Unless he hates leveling up new chars, because it can be boring as hell, and just wants to play at 60. Then it's not that insane.