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Topic: Aion - NCsoft's comeback? (Read 16317 times)
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Venkman
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Do you predict any games NOT to be free with microtransactions and ingame advertising? Only two ever (TR and Aion). And both happened this week, out of pure coincidence. It's not because I think the games will be failure, even if that's what you think I mean. Rather, I think it's because they'll realize neither will be worth whatever-per-month they want to collect from enough people. So they'll foist upon them an emerging business model in the hopes they can help gain the traction in North America that's needed to make anything but a flat-monthly-fee actually work. They can't even "just launch in Korea" first either, given that place is even more competitive. There's plenty of up and coming games that won't go microtransaction and ingame advertising, just as there's plenty of reasons why. PoTBS for example won't need to because they don't expect a gigantic userbase. Conan could because Funcom's already gone down that path, at least with advertising, but the game world is anathema to it and they may not feel it's worth touching. I'm sure VG will be well integrated with SOE's Station Exchange system, but it won't rely on it as income, deferring instead to a monthly fee. The list goes on (in my opinion). Hang on, hang on, hang on... are you seriously claiming that World of Warcraft is about to get "owned" by Aion?! Oh I very highly doubt he meant that. Just that it could happen to WoW... someday. There's already some saying North America is starting to decline (as China continues to grow). Not sure where they're getting this info. Not sure where they're going. Not sure if they'll be back in droves for BC. Not sure if this matters since Blizzard/VUG won't be burning all the cash they've made :) |
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Falconeer
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Hang on, hang on, hang on... are you seriously claiming that World of Warcraft is about to get "owned" by Aion?! Thus continuing Blizzard's unbroken string of failures? We should start a pool or something...
Not at all. I am probably not good enough at english to make myself clear. I stated before in this topic that there's no way Aion can even scratch the surface of WoW's subscription base. |
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Engels
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Looks pretty "westernized" to me for a asian MMORPG.
Looked like rehashed derivative asian crud to me. Dork moves with sword like wind, create massive typhoon of death, then body coming to a perfect standstill as enemies collapse in great manga cheese coma! |
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Falconeer
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Looks pretty "westernized" to me for a asian MMORPG.
Looked like rehashed derivative asian crud to me. Dork moves with sword like wind, create massive typhoon of death, then body coming to a perfect standstill as enemies collapse in great manga cheese coma! Well I was referring, for example, to the innovation of JUMPING! For all I can remember jumping was banned in asian MMOs not being point 'n click compliant. The whole game looks to me WASD driven as in a good WoW clone. This could be a change of pace for Asia: for the last 4 years we have had about 1000 Lineage 2 clones. We could have 1000 WoW clones from here to 2010. And that's the westernization I was referring to. |
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rk47
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can't see why I want more of WoW though...I prefer a more unique setting like CoX after all that orc and troll killing.
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Mi_Tes
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The only thing that seemed marginally different was that there was some kind of skill-chaining mechanic, where you either activated or did more damage with certain attacks if they followed other attacks.
After playing Tabula Rasa a few years ago at E3, it really sounds like they "borrowed" the combat from the first version of TR for Aion. |
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HaemishM
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Has anyone done a better RTS than StarCraft? There have been a few games that have been (about) as good as StarCraft, but we haven't seen anything that's really gone high enough that someone can call it undisputably better. SC was cool and all, but it isn't THAT great. It's just Blizzard. Big difference. Total War and just about anything Relic has done are better (and more original) games. You have to be kidding. Starcraft was a boring ass game with subpar graphics that just happened to be done by Blizzard. Just about every other RTS ever done is a BETTER game, just not a more popular one. |
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rk47
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Has anyone done a better RTS than StarCraft? There have been a few games that have been (about) as good as StarCraft, but we haven't seen anything that's really gone high enough that someone can call it undisputably better. SC was cool and all, but it isn't THAT great. It's just Blizzard. Big difference. Total War and just about anything Relic has done are better (and more original) games. You have to be kidding. was a boring ass game with subpar graphics that just happened to be done by Microsoft. Just about every other RTS ever done is a BETTER game, just not a more popular one. Fixed ? |
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Hoax
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Wow, I'm starting to not regret reading much here for the better part of the last several months. That is one hell of a stupid fucking statement. Bravo sir!
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schild
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Just don't read threads you have no interest in, works for...well...me.
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HaemishM
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Age of Empire was a boring ass game with subpar graphics that just happened to be done by Microsoft. Just about every other RTS ever done is a BETTER game, just not a more popular one.
Fixed ? No. Starcraft was boring shit. So was Diablo. |
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Rasix
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Starcraft was boring shit. So was Diablo.  Well, that's just like.. your opinion, man. |
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HaemishM
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Shut the fuck up, Donnie, you're out of your element.
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Hoax
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What is not an opinion is that Starcraft is nowhere near the pinnacle of RTS gaming.
No more then Counter-Strike is the pinnacle of FPS gaming. Sure both were wildly popular, and worked very very well at a basic level, but neither do much. Calling SC or CS the "best" anything means that War is the best card game and Checkers obviously the best board game evar!
Fuck that noise. Really I would like to know if any of you played CnC because the gameplay was EXACTLY THE SAME as SC which has the same gameplay as god knows how many other vanilla RTS clones. But ohmigawdz three teams!? When that is the crown jewel of your argument, you need to stfu.
Fucking Battle Realms did more for the genre then SC.
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A nation consists of its laws. A nation does not consist of its situation at a given time. If an individual's morals are situational, then that individual is without morals. If a nation's laws are situational, that nation has no laws, and soon isn't a nation.
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Simond
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Define 'best'
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Rasix
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Yay, swearing!
Edit: Battle Realms.. lol.
Edit #2: This is an Aion thread, right? Yah, that video wasn't very impressive. NEXT.
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« Last Edit: November 14, 2006, 09:34:02 AM by Rasix »
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