Heroes (SPOILERS)

[MrHat]

Amnesia is a cop-out plot device though.  Granted, they have a whole character/organization based on memory loss, it still feels forced. 

I assume it was the Haitian's doing for a reason that will likely be explained later.  When Peter was found, he had the Haitian's necklace on.  I wouldn't be surprised if he requested a mindwipe since he'd be less likely to explode if he doesn't remember his powers.

Wouldn't he be more likely to explode?

[Velorath]

Amnesia is a cop-out plot device though.  Granted, they have a whole character/organization based on memory loss, it still feels forced. 

I assume it was the Haitian's doing for a reason that will likely be explained later.  When Peter was found, he had the Haitian's necklace on.  I wouldn't be surprised if he requested a mindwipe since he'd be less likely to explode if he doesn't remember his powers.

Wouldn't he be more likely to explode?

Depends on how his powers actually work.  Previously his powers mostly seemed to kick in when he either thought about the person he got the power from, or when he was in close proximity to them.  One might think then that wiping his memory would keep him from accessing any powers he's absorbed so far.  Obviously that ended up not being the case since Peter has shot lightning, used telekenesis, and regenerated.

[Samwise]

Has anyone figured out who the hell he got lightning from?  Someone we haven't met yet, or someone we have whose power hasn't been revealed yet?  (Maybe his mother?  Or Veronica Mars?)

[Chenghiz]

New prediction: Sylar uses his (admittedly impressive) charisma to forge his own gang of people with powers who are embittered by the world's treatment of them. Despite his lack of powers he becomes the main supervillian!

[Velorath]

Has anyone figured out who the hell he got lightning from?  Someone we haven't met yet, or someone we have whose power hasn't been revealed yet?  (Maybe his mother?  Or Veronica Mars?)

From what I've read, it's someone he met during the four months in-between seasons.

Edit: 

New prediction: Sylar uses his (admittedly impressive) charisma to forge his own gang of people with powers who are embittered by the world's treatment of them. Despite his lack of powers he becomes the main supervillian!

I'm guessing there will be more than one main villain this season since this season is supposed to contain Chapters 2 and 3.

[schild]

Denny Crane!

At the rate this season is going, Donny Crane would be a step up.

For a short time there, I thought Heroes would join the ranks of one of the best stuff on TV. House, Boston Legal, Weeds, etc. Unfortunately, it's simply not true. It sits in the second tier firmly between Grey's Anatomy and Californication. The latter being better and the former being worse.

[MrHat]

You know what? With the exception of House, I agree with you.

[Chenghiz]

Peter used telekinessi in Ireland, but the only person we know who had that was Sylar. Maybe Peter learned the lightning from Sylar too?

[Venkman]

Hehe. I did like Sylar's "Golly, they seem so..." when that dude found like the two were wanted for murder.

Very good episode, what I've been waiting for. The whole Molly thing, wonder what Parkman's Dad's power is? That freaked me out more than anything.

Two things though:

The religious angle. Now we need probably-recurring-characters talking about God and prayer? I hope that's not repeated too often. I have no problem with religion except when it feels tacked on to try and talk to a different demographic, as it does here (to me, anyway).

"Guest Stars". Veronica Mars? Really? And you know they had to say "guest star Kristen Bell" as a PR thing. Seems like another demographic move, some qualitative/Focus Group result. "You know. For kids."

[Velorath]

The religious angle. Now we need probably-recurring-characters talking about God and prayer? I hope that's not repeated too often. I have no problem with religion except when it feels tacked on to try and talk to a different demographic, as it does here (to me, anyway).

There's been a subtle religious angle throughout the show (characters with biblical names like Gabriel and Noah for instance).  Supposedly it has some greater meaning, but much like Kensai's symbol, it's unlikely we'll find out what that meaning is anytime soon.

[Venkman]

Good point. Maybe I just never noticed it before nor made the connection? It was like that with the second and third Matrix movie too. After I saw them the first time, I saw them again and was floored by how many references were in there.

[Samwise]

There are a whole mess of Biblical names in there now that I think about it.  The obvious ones:

Eden
Gabriel
Micah
Noah

Less obvious:

Isaac
Nathan
Peter

Gabriel being a harbinger of change (and death) is appropriate.  The rest I'm not really seeing.

[MrHat]

With all the talk of destiny and higher purpose and gifts, I'm actually surprised we haven't had more blatant God talk.

[Merusk]

I think Issac and Nathan make more sense if their names are reversed.  Peter makes sense to me.

[MrHat]

I think Issac and Nathan make more sense if their names are reversed.  Peter makes sense to me.

American Italian Petrelli named Issac and his brother Peter?

[stray]

Eh, the world is full of biblical/Jewish names. I doubt it means anything, at least not intentionally, like it did with the Matrix.

[Velorath]

Eh, the world is full of biblical/Jewish names. I doubt it means anything, at least not intentionally, like it did with the Matrix.

The writers disagree.

[stray]

i guess I'd be interested in what the significance of Micah and Nathan are then. Because they're very insignificant in the bible.

[Samwise]

I suspect the actual names don't have anything to do with anything and the writers just liked them because they sound interesting and "biblical-y".

[MrHat]

Any idea how fast these are put on nbc.com?

I find myself with out access to a TV and nothing to do on Monday Night.

[Velorath]

Any idea how fast these are put on nbc.com?

I find myself with out access to a TV and nothing to do on Monday Night.

Usually pretty late.  They have to wait until sometime after it's been aired in all the time zones.

[Samwise]

They don't show up on the website until Tuesday, and they usually aren't watchable until Wednesday (it seems like a lot of people watch it online as soon as it goes up and the servers can't handle the load).

If you have a Netflix account they give you 1 hour of free streaming video per dollar your plan costs, and they have current Heroes episodes in their streaming video library.  Not sure yet how fast they go up there or how the quality is (I only found out about this recently and haven't made use of it yet), but since it's a pay service I suspect it's better than the NBC website.

[MrHat]

Good info.

Sigh, was trying to avoid grabbing the torrent.  I've been feeling guilty about my piratey ways recently.

[Samwise]

IMO NBC should just put the video up in a torrent with the short commercials included.  They'd cut their bandwidth bills by a huge amount and they'd almost completely kill the incentive for people to go find commercial-free torrents.  With a downloaded file instead of a stream people could theoretically skip or cut out the commercials, but with the short commercial breaks they have in the online edition, it takes less time to watch the commercial than it would to figure out how to bypass it, so I can't see it being a big problem.  Anyone who's that determined to avoid the ads is already avoiding them and shouldn't factor into your decisions.

I mitigate my own guilt by buying the DVD sets.  They're making way more money off that than by playing commercials at me while I'm in the other room taking a leak anyway.

[Evil Elvis]

It was a really good episode (aside from why the company didn't care that Mohinder had Molly).  Here's hoping the rest of the season is this good.

[Mazakiel]

Uh, I thought it'd been brought up already in the thread and answered, but the Company knew about Molly from the get go.  It was a matter of putting her into the Company's hands and having Mohinder 'owe' them. 

Very good episode overall, I think.  What Matt's Dad can do with his powers is pretty intersting, and explains how he's gone around doing what he does.  Also, the indications that Matt can do more than just read thoughts it a pretty big development.  That the powers aren't necessarily one trick pony type deals could make for lots of good stuff. 

[Evil Elvis]

No, I brought it up, but I haven't heard any answer that sounds close to reasonable.  The Company expecting him to hand her back over doesn't make much sense.  He wasn't working for them for months, I don't see how they could predict one of their own going Freddy Krueger on her so he would want to bring her in, and she's one of their only methods of locating mutants (ie: important asset).  Nobody even brings it up.  Shit, even Mohinder should be wondering why they don't seem to care at the very least.

Somebody's got some 'splaining to do.

[Velorath]

It was a really good episode (aside from why the company didn't care that Mohinder had Molly).  Here's hoping the rest of the season is this good.

With Molly having formed an attachment to Matt and Mohinder, I don't think it would do the Company much good to take her by force.  She certainly wouldn't willingly help them locate people after that.

Previews for the next episode look pretty damn good.

[Muggi]

One thing that irked me..

When Mohinder shows up in New orleans at the end of the episode, how exactly did he know er...the flipping-burgers chick had a power?

Did I miss something?

[Velorath]

One thing that irked me..

When Mohinder shows up in New orleans at the end of the episode, how exactly did he know er...the flipping-burgers chick had a power?

Did I miss something?

The Company sent him there for an assignment.  Given the number of people they've abducted who didn't even know they had powers yet, it stands to reason that the Company has some as yet unrevealed means of finding these sorts of things out.

[Mazakiel]

More often than not, ability to have a power runs in a family.  She's related to DL and Micah, who are both known by the Company to have powers.  So that they would know of her isn't really a surprise.  As to how they knew when to go to her, it seems a safe assumption that they have a setup to monitor police reports, news stories, etc., and so when a report comes in of her stopping a robber, they could put two and two together and realize she's likely exhibiting her power somehow. 

[HaemishM]

What he said.

Good episode, though I'm a bit disappointed in the Hiro part of it. It seems a bit rushed this time. Not seeing Maya and Bro... good thing. Those two really have started to annoy me. Matt's dad going sickhouse with the nightmare trap was quite good as well. Who do you think Lightning Lass's dad is?

[Mazakiel]

My guess is she was talking to Bob.  More than that, I have to rely on speculative spoilers out there, and as they've so far been right more often than not, I'm not sure anyone wants that much spoiled.

[Rasix]

Who do you think Lightning Lass's dad is?

Takeo Kensai

Edit: Heh, before typing that in I googled the name to check the spelling.  Don't.  It's a spoiler barrage.  Granted it's stuff I had guessed since the Mr. Sulu murder.. but still, I'd rather not have that many links confirm it.

[Evildrider]

I think it was the best episode so far this season.  I'm looking forward to "St. Joan", I think it'll be nice to see an actual costumed hero.