Heroes (SPOILERS)

[HaemishM]

I thought I heard a rumor that Shatner IS the big baddie for the season. But I could have read that on this thread, I'm too lazy to check.

[Lakov_Sanite]

I thought I heard a rumor that Shatner IS the big baddie for the season. But I could have read that on this thread, I'm too lazy to check.

I could never take the series seriously if that were the case and I'm pretty sure the writers would agree.  Not that I don't think they couldn't/wouldn't ever cast him but as the big bad guy?  No one is that stupid to think it would work.

[Venkman]

So I thank you all for helping me make a decision: TF2 tonight or watch my dvr'd Heroes :)

[Merusk]

I am surprised no one has mentioned Nichelle Nichols.  At least I found it surprising.  I hope they work in more of ghosts of Science Fiction's past.

Not Science Fiction, just Star Trek.  My wife's comment to me after watching this week's episode on the DVR was, "What is this, the Star Trek club?"

As of now there are 4 actors who have a high-profile connection with Star Trek.   Nichols, Takei, The Irishman who betrayed Peter (Malcom from Enterprise), Sylar (Playing Spock in the new ST movie)

2 who have played bit parts:
Mama Petrelli - Played a Klingon - Gi'ral - in the 2-part NG episode where Worf finds the camp of Kitomer survivors)
Zach - Played on Voyager (two episodes), played Thomas Picard in Generations

[Evildrider]

Pfft.. who cares about all the Star Trek people.   

Where's the Firefly cast members?!
Adam Baldwin is already on another NBC show, so i guess he can just do a Cameo.  However all of Nathan Fillion's shows get cancelled ( :-(), so at least he has the time.  Summer Glau would make a hot hero too.

[Evil Elvis]

I am surprised no one has mentioned Nichelle Nichols.  At least I found it surprising.  I hope they work in more of ghosts of Science Fiction's past.

They need to bring in Shatner to play someone now.  Maybe he could be like Parkman's Dad or something.

Ahem

Season 3 spoiler:

Parkman's father is T.J. Hooker.

=)  Probably needs green text with all the star trek actors they have on.

I would definitely stop watching the show if they actually did something that stupid.  They might as well put him on water skis, and have him jump over a shark.

[Nevermore]

Not Science Fiction, just Star Trek.  My wife's comment to me after watching this week's episode on the DVR was, "What is this, the Star Trek club?"

As of now there are 4 actors who have a high-profile connection with Star Trek.   Nichols, Takei, The Irishman who betrayed Peter (Malcom from Enterprise), Sylar (Playing Spock in the new ST movie)

2 who have played bit parts:
Mama Petrelli - Played a Klingon - Gi'ral - in the 2-part NG episode where Worf finds the camp of Kitomer survivors)
Zach - Played on Voyager (two episodes), played Thomas Picard in Generations

Also, Malcolm McDowell was in one of the Star Trek movies (I forget which).

[stray]

Generations

[Riggswolfe]

*sigh* Monday's episode was decent but I'm almost too the point of just fast forwarding through the brother and sister stuff. It's such shitty writing it drags each episode down. I almost think they've got some intern writing only that part of the show. We GET it already! She'll freak if her brother is gone. I'm just praying that they finally get across the border and she finds someone who can help.

I'm kinda thinking she might be the big bad of the season. Or Sylar will eat her and get even deadlier.

[SnakeCharmer]

Heh.  Then you have people like me yelling at the TV that 'the last thing we need in this country is two more frakin' illegals, especially one that kills everybody when she cries!!!'.

[Riggswolfe]

Heh.  Then you have people like me yelling at the TV that 'the last thing we need in this country is two more frakin' illegals, especially one that kills everybody when she cries!!!'.

Well, my thought was "I wonder if they're trying to appeal to the hispanic crowd with these two?"

But honestly, I hate her character. She's a whiny bitch. I hate the whole arc for reasons already stated. Let's try something new can we? I mean seriously. I'm not sure I've ever seen a character that whiny. Anywhere. I just want to shoot her in the face.

[Mandrel]

I'm just praying that they finally get across the border and she finds someone who can help.

And once they finally get to the border, they realize that their journey to New York is only halfway done.    I can't wait for the hyjinx that ensue once they get to the U.S.

[Miguel]

Obviously, Maya and Alejandro will be helped on the US side of the border by none other than Walter Koenig, who will explain that the only way to cure Maya is if they can find some 'Nuclear Wessles".

Sorry, I could not resist. ;)

[Venkman]

I agree that's the weakest part right now. Even Nikki/her son (name?) was more engaging. Or maybe it's because I only got into the series after watching the 10th episode and then spending a whole Saturday watching the preceding 9.

There's still too much buildup going on. Let the newbies ask their friends what's going on, or check online. They're taking too long to keep their existing fans engaged. And you don't want to alienate those folks too early in the life of a new series.

I'm getting Battlestar Galactica feelings here.

[tazelbain]

> I'm getting Battlestar Galactica feelings here.
Yep. Milking mode.

[Merusk]

Obviously, Maya and Alejandro will be helped on the US side of the border by none other than Walter Koenig, who will explain that the only way to cure Maya is if they can find some 'Nuclear Wessles".

Sorry, I could not resist. ;)

Only to lead them right into the clutches of the company, when he uses his telepathic powers to discern what she really is?

[Abagadro]

Heh.  Then you have people like me yelling at the TV that 'the last thing we need in this country is two more frakin' illegals, especially one that kills everybody when she cries!!!'.

You mean insane people?

[SnakeCharmer]

Yeah, pretty much.

[Chenghiz]

I'd be perfectly happy to see Sylar get fucked with the rest of the season. He set his own rules and agenda in the first season and I think it would be interesting to see him try and cope with the opposite.

[Velorath]

I'd be perfectly happy to see Sylar get fucked with the rest of the season. He set his own rules and agenda in the first season and I think it would be interesting to see him try and cope with the opposite.

I'd be perfectly happy to see Sylar finally get killed off.  He should be dead about a dozen times by now, but constantly manages to survive only through the stupidity of others who don't kill him when they have the chance.

[tazelbain]

I see him being under a leash this season, made to do the old villain's biding.  Of course next season, the leash will break.

[Venkman]

So finally watched this episode. Wasn't as bad as it could have been. The Peter story is compelling at least, as was the Hiro thing until he wimped out and decided to stay back in time anyway. Was neat how they brought in Ando though. And the end was finally the sort of compelling Heroes-ending I'd been expecting since the season began. Cool stuff coming up with HRG. Interesting to see if/how he talks his way out of it. Maybe he's actually still with the Company?

Previews for next week look good too. Shaven Nathan, more villain/Molly story, good stuff.

Don't care about Alejandro, didn't care about Nikki/Micah, even with Nichelle Nichols. I hate when shows use the presence of a known actor/ess as the justification for using slightly longer-duration cut scenes and ommission/surprising/interested music. This show wasn't about "hey look at some other actor/ess we roped into a bit part", and really needs to not go there or it'll definitely be BSG by season 3.5.

Question: somewhere in this thread was something about HRG/Bennett flying. Did I read that wrong or is there a belief that Bennett can fly?

[Velorath]

Looks like they're keeping the new characters coming, with Micah's cousin the Taskmaster in this episode, and Kristen Bell in the next.  Hopefully in order to cut down on characters, Sylar, Maya, and Alejandro will drive off a cliff or something.  Good episode overall though.

[stray]

I thought the re-inclusion of Sylar was gonna suck, but putting him together with Maya and Alejandro makes both of their stories much more interesting.

[Nevermore]

I like the fact that his watch is broken and he's back to calling himself Gabriel.  Though the clock ticking when he went off to kill that whatshisname kid was a bit much.

[Samwise]

Sylar trying to redeem himself by murdering innocent people is cool.

I'm curious what the limits of Micah's cousin(whose name escapes me)'s powers are.  It seems like it goes beyond cognitive learning, since that wrestling move required more strength than she ought to have had.  Will she be able to pick up other heroes' powers too a la Peter?

[HaemishM]

Last night's episode was a significant step up from the previous week. Finally getting the Maya story to be interesting took putting them together with Sylar, which was something I didn't exactly expect. Taskmaster chick is kind of cool. Adding new characters is fine, I just hope they have a place for them. Making Parkman's dad be the nightmare man was an unexpected twist.

Did anyone else notice that Nathan's father's face was turned in that picture, almost motion blurred? I wonder if that's just a tiny detail or if it's something that will have some impact later on.

[Nevermore]

I was looking for Uhura in that picture of the 12 but seems she wasn't there.  You knew Midas touch guy would be in it, so that was no surprise.  I'm leaning towards Mrs. Petrelli having the power of suggestion or influence of some kind.  Still don't know how Nathan has those horrible scars hidden or healed.

[HaemishM]

Those aren't physical scars. Nathan's going around the bend.

[Velorath]

Did anyone else notice that Nathan's father's face was turned in that picture, almost motion blurred? I wonder if that's just a tiny detail or if it's something that will have some impact later on.

They probably just didn't want to cast anybody for that role yet.  I assume some day they'll probably have some sort of siginificant flashback involving Nathan and Peter's dad, and that they'll probably get another special guest star to play him whenever they get around to doing it.

[MrHat]

Did anyone else notice that Nathan's father's face was turned in that picture, almost motion blurred? I wonder if that's just a tiny detail or if it's something that will have some impact later on.

They probably just didn't want to cast anybody for that role yet.  I assume some day they'll probably have some sort of siginificant flashback involving Nathan and Peter's dad, and that they'll probably get another special guest star to play him whenever they get around to doing it.

Denny Crane!

[Venkman]

Ah good, NOW I have a Heroes to look forward to.

The most recent comic graphic novel was funny. Sorta tangent/wierd but I always like the Hiro stuff. And the one just prior with Peter and Caitlin was a good build on that relationship. I'm actually kinda like amnesiac-Peter. Much more potential plot wise than burnout-brother-of-politician.

[MrHat]

Amnesia is a cop-out plot device though.  Granted, they have a whole character/organization based on memory loss, it still feels forced. 

[Velorath]

Amnesia is a cop-out plot device though.  Granted, they have a whole character/organization based on memory loss, it still feels forced. 

I assume it was the Haitian's doing for a reason that will likely be explained later.  When Peter was found, he had the Haitian's necklace on.  I wouldn't be surprised if he requested a mindwipe since he'd be less likely to explode if he doesn't remember his powers.

[Riggswolfe]

When they found Sylar I leaned over to my girlfriend and said "Please, God, let him eat their brains!" No such luck.