Heroes (SPOILERS)

[Merusk]

Powers are not unique.

Someone's been reading the online graphic novel.

[schild]

I think assuming powers are unique is the bigger leap of faith than assuming their not. Eventually they'd simply run out of creative steam, let alone story.

[Trippy]

Actually that's something I read in the Heroes preview issue of Entertainment Weekly.

[schild]

Actually that's something I read in the Heroes preview issue of Entertainment Weekly.

Well, I didn't expect that.

[CmdrSlack]

Meh, my DVR recording cuts out and I don't know if I missed some key end scene.

This episode had a lot of action, IMO.

If I was un-tired enough to put forth the effort for spoiler tags, I'd ask my question specifically. Since I'm not, did the peeping tom scene end the episode? I'm trying to figure out if I need to watch the end again on NBC.com.

[Trippy]

Actually that's something I read in the Heroes preview issue of Entertainment Weekly.

Well, I didn't expect that.

Doesn't everybody read EW?

[Trippy]

The end is she runs out to the driveway and picks up a book.

[schild]

How wonderful. Kensei has Claire Disorder.

I look forward to a series of conveniences. Ugh ugh ugh.

Edit: Oh, and then the episode ends. Claire's secret is out. How fantastic. Is anyone else feeling like this should have been a miniseries?

[CmdrSlack]

Hrm. The little information screen about the show on my DVR said something about Nikki and Micah, but I don't recall that scene. Stupid show summaries.

Or maybe I just missed that part.

[schild]

Neg. Nothing about white trash in this episode.

[HaemishM]

Nikki and Micah never showed up. The scene ends with Claire picking up Suresh Senior's book and Mr. Muggles barking at the air.

Kensei's power being regeneration makes sense. How else would he remove his heart to give to the dragon and yet survive? I dug the Hiro as Kensei scene, and I definitely like where the Peter arc is going. And apparently, Mama Petrelli has some form of telepathy, or at least resistance to telepathy.

[Riggswolfe]

I don't know how spoilery it is regarding Kensei:


Also, am I the only one that doesn't particularly care about the new people? The ensemble was already large enough thanks.

[Merusk]

Nikki and Micah never showed up. The scene ends with Claire picking up Suresh Senior's book and Mr. Muggles barking at the air.

He's not barking at the air.

Kensei's power being regeneration makes sense. How else would he remove his heart to give to the dragon and yet survive? I dug the Hiro as Kensei scene, and I definitely like where the Peter arc is going. And apparently, Mama Petrelli has some form of telepathy, or at least resistance to telepathy.

I thought Hiro just reversed time around Kensei the same way he did when the psycho bitch shot at he and Ando last season.  I must've missed the actual regeneration part.

As for Mama Petrelli, I just figured had been around powered-people enough (she's one of The Company founters, remember.) that she knew Parkman was reading her mind based on how he jumped on what she'd just been thinking.

Riggs - No, I don't particularly care for the Brother - Sister storyline so far.  It looks like they're going to be this seasons "Nikki and Micha."  The device used to drive the plot that nobody really wants to see/ give a fuck about.

[schild]

They would not have used such a famous guy if they weren't going to bring him into the actual present-day storyline.

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Haemish, she's  been around heroes. If you know how telepathy works, you can just think what you want and they can hear. It's been used in the series before. I'm pretty sure I could've done what she did, hell, Bennett did.

[Ookii]

Only the second episode of the second season, I still have faith they'll not fuck it up.

All I want is for Peter to get the hell back to the US in a reasonable amount of time, band everyone together, and kick some goddamn ass.  None of those wimpy 30 second long Sylar fights, more like the one where Hiro goes to the future except we actually SEE it this time.

[HaemishM]

Haemish, she's  been around heroes. If you know how telepathy works, you can just think what you want and they can hear. It's been used in the series before. I'm pretty sure I could've done what she did, hell, Bennett did.

I realize that, I just think Parkman seemed more than a little taken aback that someone reacted so forcefully. It's one of those things that's easy to write in comics but not so easy to act out. Did she force him out of her head or was she just able to shut it off. I'm still betting on some kind of mind bitch powers for her.

[Reg]

I think Parkman is just used to being able to listen in on people without them having the slightest clue so he was caught by surprise when she mind-shouted at him.

[Evil Elvis]

I think Parkman is just used to being able to listen in on people without them having the slightest clue so he was caught by surprise when she mind-shouted at him.

^

I've liked about 10 minutes of the last 2 episodes, the rest was snooze.

It was painfully obvious they wouldn't kill the Patrelli's, which is [one reason] why the season finale was so anticlimactic.  I guess not waiting for 1/2 the season to go by before springing amnesia-Peter on us is a plus.  But now they're drawing out their re-introduction, and we get 20 minutes of Claire and her coping drama as filler.  Hey, a boy who can fly just like her dad who she can totally connect with, and is just what she needs at this moment in her life!  Oh, look, someone stole her car, that's totally not going to come back later *FORESHADOWING*.  Whatever.  Don't really care about what Mohinder and Bennet are up to either for some reason.  Everything just feels stalled instead of building up.  Hopefully the next few episodes get better.

Everything with Hiro has been gold, though.  Is it bad that I'm more interested in what's happened with Sylar than Peter?

[Velorath]

Don't really care about what Mohinder and Bennet are up to either for some reason.  Everything just

Really?  One of my favorite parts of the last episode was the Haitian showing up at Bennet's work.

[Evil Elvis]

Probably because the scene between Mohinder and the Haitian didn't make sense.  We're left to infer a lot of what happened, and a bit of it goes against the interaction we were shown between the two.

It just felt like a cheap way to mind-fuck the audience for 10 minutes.  The mind-wipe thing would have been alright twist if the rest of the scene made it seem like he was trying to fill in the Haitian, and I didn't have to assume a bunch of shit happened off-screen.

[schild]

But the scene was meant to imply he was filling in the haitian and then asked for a mindwipe...

[Riggswolfe]

But the scene was meant to imply he was filling in the haitian and then asked for a mindwipe...

That was what I got out of it too. Mohinder can't tell what he literally doesn't know. The only issue is that he does know that the Haitan was going to talk to HRG and stuff so it's a bit of a plot hole. Why bother having him mindwipe what was said in that hut but not mindwipe the fact that you know who he's going to see anyway?

[Evil Elvis]

I'm pretty sure he wasn't mind wiped.  Otherwise he wouldn't have been filling in Bennet on the phone about how his plan worked, but that they'd be watching him more now (he wouldn't have remembered any of it).

I think we're supposed to guess that instead of the mind wipe, he instead told the Haitian about what's going on.

[SnakeCharmer]

The mindwipe thing, I'm guessing that Mohinder asked for (and got) a mindwipe from the Haitian as a means to protect himself from the Company if they had any other mind readers around to see if he is lying or loyal to the company.  The mindwipe went back just far enough that he knew where he was and what he was to be doing AFTER his memory was erased, and he was able to fill in the Hatian as to where to go to find HRG.

Does that make any sense?

[Merusk]

Read this week's online comic.  It stretches out the Haitian/ Mohinder scene a bit more.  There was no mindwipe.

[schild]

Read this week's online comic.  It stretches out the Haitian/ Mohinder scene a bit more.  There was no mindwipe.

Ok, either way, doesn't matter. Scene was set up so Mohinder would tell him the plan. This is merely convenient.

[HaemishM]

I gather that the slow buildup/catching up sort of stuff is meant to give new viewers a refresher course so they aren't just totally turned off and don't have to watch the last season to get every bit of details. Comics do the recap/refresher stuff all the time.

[Venkman]

That's a good point Haemish. I've been largely disappointed so far, but they can't just totally rely on their old audience either. The series is still too young, so expanding to new users means re-teaching stuff veterans already know.

Episode 2 was a bit better for me than Episode 1. The brother/sister thing is starting to take on a bit of LoTR we-walk-for-dies/cry-for-minutes feel, and I don't need to hear from HRG why they're in hiding, but otherwise things are starting to pick up.

The one thing that really annoyed me from this episode was when that terrorist guy (presumably) was holding Peter's book over the fire. Here's Peter who just knocked out two armed guys with three different powers, after having just used a fourth, worried that a third guy is holding something over the fire? Come on. Mental-freeze, walk in, take book, walk back. Christ, it annoyed me as the number of seasons it took Trek-writers to figure out the transport bomb (which was only slightly longer than the number of series it took).

My only hope is that this is another example of not doing the quick thing turns out to have been the best thing, even if we have to wait a few episodes to find out.

Hiro stuff is picking up. I have my suspicions that the psycho that (presumably) killed Sulu and almost Ms. Petrelli is Kensei, a guy who's lived 700 years and lost his mind because of it, being controlled by the organization through giving him photographs with the one thing he knows how to interpret anymore: his kanji.

[MrHat]

Interesting theory about Kensei.

As for Peter, he doesn't remember anything.  Only the powers he's used up to this point or manifested. I was more like, just shock the shit outta him and take it.  Maybe he's still got a fragement of law floating around in his head and wants to make an even trade.  Or maybe he wants to bang the Irish chick and wants to be honorable about it or something.

[Chenghiz]

A couple of questions came to my mind: if the company has assassins that can track down and kill people that easily, why didn't they use them on Sylar? Also could Nathan have an alter-ego like Nicole who is the scary guy that gives Molly nightmares? When he looked at himself in the mirror in the bar he had a red sort of flayed looking face evocative of the pictures she was drawing.

[Evil Elvis]

A couple of questions came to my mind: if the company has assassins that can track down and kill people that easily, why didn't they use them on Sylar? Also could Nathan have an alter-ego like Nicole who is the scary guy that gives Molly nightmares? When he looked at himself in the mirror in the bar he had a red sort of flayed looking face evocative of the pictures she was drawing.

I think Clockwork Orange is still alive, and he's the one who fixed Nathan's face.  It wouldn't make much sense for Nathan to be the bad guy.  I still don't buy that they offed him AND Eric Roberts in the same ep. 

I'm also wondering if The Company is completely inept, or Bennet is just that stupid.  How the fuck can't they know that the little girl that was kidnapped right from one of their offices is living with Mohinder?  Every evil organization ever portrayed on TV for the last decade taps phones, but Bennet's in Mohinder's 5? It ain't right.

[Riggswolfe]

Well, first off. I think the company does know about Molly. Unless I am totally misremembering some of his early conversations with his recruiter/boss. I think they're using it to control him.

As for Peter and not blowing the guy with the box away, so far he's only used his powers when directly threatened. I don't think he has conscious control of them yet so he was helpless in that situation. If I was Peter I'd agree then when the guy put the box away I'd beat the shit out of him and take it and leave. I mean, they were already going all Jack Bauer on him so why be loyal or honest to them?

Oh, and finally, the Irish chick is hot. But then again, she's Irish and the accent alone is enough for me.

[Logain]

ILLUSION GIRL WAS A WHALE! lol

[Signe]

If the cheerleader's head is cut off, does she grow a new head or a new body?

[lesion]

she probably has to have them put back together, like when she got brained with the stick (same with Peter and the glass shard). it's like torpor only less lace!