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Reply #385 on: February 27, 2007, 12:34:38 PM

Looked like Donald Sutherland to me.

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Reply #386 on: February 27, 2007, 12:44:49 PM

I actually thought it was James Coburn, until I remembered he was dead.  Don't know why though.  When I saw the glimpse of him in the previews, the first thing that came to mind was the character he played in Payback.

I really hope they break a mobster typecasting and go for someone out in left field. 
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Reply #387 on: February 27, 2007, 01:13:28 PM

The rumor I read earlier (I think in a thread on the semiofficial boards) was that Linderman would be played by Malcolm McDowell.  Whether that's true or not, who knows.
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Reply #388 on: February 27, 2007, 01:18:40 PM

Bleh.

He's a fine actor, to be sure.  But my own personal choice would have been for someone else, IF that's the case.   
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Reply #389 on: February 27, 2007, 02:00:51 PM

I threatened this show with picking up the pace and doing stuff, and WOW, it listened. This show is really coming in to its own. I did see the sympathic Bennet starting to come through, and I actually was a bit touched at the end of the episode. I really hope they keep up this quality of show. Also, I like where they are going with the whole shadow agency thing.

2 Thumbs up for last night.
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Reply #390 on: February 27, 2007, 02:05:12 PM

Same here, man. Turned my cold heart all warm and fuzzy. I'll try not to doubt again.
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Reply #391 on: February 27, 2007, 06:11:15 PM

The preview described the next episode as the beginning of the final chapters of the season, or some such.  I've heard there might be another brief hiatus after next week's episode before they start down the final stretch, but I sure as hell hope that's not the case.  I'm hoping things keep this pace right up to the season finale, where we can see just what has changed about the future, and how well they've managed to avert disaster.  I'm rather certain things will have changed, it's just a question as to how much. 

They've said they are going to air the final five episodes in May.
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Reply #392 on: February 27, 2007, 08:07:43 PM

....May? 

Well fuck.  I hope that changes. 
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Reply #393 on: February 27, 2007, 10:56:16 PM

TV seasons do traditionally end right before summer, and they gotta have a break somewhere if they don't have enough episodes socked away to do one a week from now till then.

I just watched this week's episode over again (yay nbc.com) and spotted something I hadn't before -- the young Haitian was wearing a silver pendant in the shape of Jessica's tattoo (the one that appears on her shoulder whenever she's being Jessica instead of Nikki).  I wonder if that means they're directly linked in some way (like, Nikki/Jessica is the result of some weird Haitian mindmeld voodoo), or if the symbol is going to turn out to be something having to do with Linderman.

I'm already figuring that Linderman is the "higher authority" that the Haitian answers to, just because that seems to be the safe money for any dangling plot threads at this point.
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Reply #394 on: February 27, 2007, 11:20:34 PM

I just watched this week's episode over again (yay nbc.com) and spotted something I hadn't before -- the young Haitian was wearing a silver pendant in the shape of Jessica's tattoo (the one that appears on her shoulder whenever she's being Jessica instead of Nikki).  I wonder if that means they're directly linked in some way (like, Nikki/Jessica is the result of some weird Haitian mindmeld voodoo), or if the symbol is going to turn out to be something having to do with Linderman.

Yeah, I noticed the pendant on the Haitian.  The only thing I could think of is that maybe Nikki had been abducted by Primatech at some point in the past and given the tattoo while she was there (possibly as a means for them to identify when Jessica is in control.
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Reply #395 on: February 27, 2007, 11:30:57 PM

I'd assumed (for no good reason, really) that the Haitian's pendant was something he'd had on him before being picked up by Primatech.  Does that symbol show up on any other Primatech paraphernalia?
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Reply #396 on: February 28, 2007, 12:35:26 AM

Apparently it shows up in a shitload of places.  Some of them I have to imagine are just the writers having fun slipping it in there and seeing if the viewers notice.
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Reply #397 on: February 28, 2007, 02:09:10 AM

I threatened this show with picking up the pace and doing stuff, and WOW, it listened. This show is really coming in to its own. I did see the sympathic Bennet starting to come through, and I actually was a bit touched at the end of the episode. I really hope they keep up this quality of show. Also, I like where they are going with the whole shadow agency thing.

2 Thumbs up for last night.

I'd like to see them give some more of the characters the kind of complexity they've given Bennet -- and they certainly had fun toying with us during the earlier episodes where I kept thinking "he's a total bastard" no, wait, "he really cares about his family", no, wait, "he's a total bastard" ^^

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Reply #398 on: February 28, 2007, 06:03:29 AM

The two are not mutually exclusive.

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Reply #399 on: February 28, 2007, 09:47:00 AM

Lets test this....

Ironwood - do you love your daughter?

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Reply #400 on: February 28, 2007, 10:51:48 AM

Lets test this....

Ironwood - do you love your daughter?

I actually laughed out loud at this. Good on you.
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Reply #401 on: February 28, 2007, 12:10:06 PM

Please don't let any Matrix-funk rub off on Heroes. That would be a damn shame. Matrix-funk is a stink you can't wash off with ammonia and bleach.

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Reply #402 on: February 28, 2007, 12:28:06 PM

Matrix funk?
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Reply #403 on: February 28, 2007, 12:54:18 PM

It smells like sweaty leather and Jolt cola. It comes from having been involved in the travesty that was the last 2 Matrix movies.

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Reply #404 on: February 28, 2007, 04:02:49 PM

I thought the symbol was a pretty apparent recurring theme. While I hadn't noticed all of the ones displayed on that wiki, I had noticed a lot of them. I'm guessing that it has something to do with DNA. If you would put another S in the symbol, but mirrored, it could be seen as a DNA helix.
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Reply #405 on: March 02, 2007, 10:48:32 PM

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I'm quite glad the Internet Chick wasn't around.

I was kind of wondering where the hell she went...she was there at teh graveyard.  She was (I thought) there last week at Bennett's house.  Then this episode, nowhere. 

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Reply #406 on: March 03, 2007, 12:09:39 AM

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I'm quite glad the Internet Chick wasn't around.

I was kind of wondering where the hell she went...she was there at teh graveyard.  She was (I thought) there last week at Bennett's house.  Then this episode, nowhere. 

Errr.. wasn't she at the end of the ep working at primatech?  Or is that another new female?

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Reply #407 on: March 03, 2007, 12:10:39 AM

That's another new chick.  From what I gather, we might see her in action in the next episode. 
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Reply #408 on: March 03, 2007, 05:23:53 AM

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I'm quite glad the Internet Chick wasn't around.

I was kind of wondering where the hell she went...she was there at teh graveyard.  She was (I thought) there last week at Bennett's house.  Then this episode, nowhere. 

I was thinking the same thing.  I THOUGHT I saw her with Parkman and Radioactive Caveman in the previews for last weeks previews.  Oh well, she was/is weaksauce.

Also, saw a commercial for Heroes last night while watching Leno.  They showed a bit more of Linderman's face, but I didn't get a good enough look at it.  It DIDN'T look like McDowell though, to me anyway.  Edit:  But he IS listed as having a recurring role here
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Reply #409 on: March 05, 2007, 04:02:51 PM

So, today's episode his the net last night, and I had to watch.

It's even better than last weeks show.  Do not miss.  I'd have to say it's dethroned BSG as the best sci-fi on television.
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Reply #410 on: March 05, 2007, 05:24:43 PM

So here are my predictions for tonight that are based on what I saw on the episode information screen.  Not even ComCrap can keep itself from putting semi-spoilers on its info screens, I guess.

At any rate....here goes...

My predictions are:  Hiro goes after the sword and Ando dies, Mohinder figures out that Sylar is Sylar and not melty dude from VA Beach.

Yeah, they're pretty darn softball predictions, but hey, you'll have that.

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Reply #411 on: March 05, 2007, 07:03:12 PM

Damn cliffhangers.


This show has really blown up more than I thought though. Advertising magnet. Seems like I saw two commercials I've never seen before. Then there's the Spidey promo. And then that bit of Heavenly Sword footage.
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Reply #412 on: March 05, 2007, 07:13:59 PM

FUCK!!!!!!!
 

April?!?!?! 

Anyway, in no particular order:
 - Good turn of events.  The Hatian continues his double agent role in good fashion.
 - The shapeshifter chick is teh hawtness.  And can't say I didn't see her acting like HRG's wife from 10 miles away.
 - Didn't particularly care for Ando showing up out of the blue.  Going to go out on a limb and say this about him:  He's got some sort of power.  He works for his (Hiro's) father, but not in the capacity that we THINK he does.  He's supposed to watch over Hiro (and has watched over him even as a young child).  He's been playing stupid (so to speak), and within a couple episodes it's going to come out who he really is.
 - HRG has taken a nice turn, although I liked his mysterious bad guy role better.
 - Am I the only one getting really freakin' bored of Sylar?  Seriously.  Just kill him off.  He totally sucks as a villian now. 
 - Clair has HUGE feet.
 - Disappointed that McDowell is Linderman.  Ah well.
 - Really, really hoping that Mohinder doesn't get killed off.  [Edit]  I REALLY liked the way they played him out tonight.  He's got a great mean streak to him that came out of the blue, that I didn't see coming at all.   
 - Anyone notice that Badass Hiro With Sword was in the previews for the next episodes?   Rock on!
 
 
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Reply #413 on: March 06, 2007, 03:58:18 AM

I don't think they will kill of mohinder in a looooooooooong while. He's needed for the scientific plot twists. Ando might be someone else than we think he is, but the fact that he doesn't have any super powers makes him somewhat unique. I think they will tie together the petrelli brothers mom with linderman sometime in the future, perhaps even with mr bennets organization.
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Reply #414 on: March 06, 2007, 07:04:58 AM

So now we know where Peter's scar comes from, since they made such a point of showing the shearing of the emo-bangs.

Also, so far the future has been playing out exactly as Hiro and Isaac have seen it would.  I'm guessing it won't be until the final episode that they finally manage to do something to cause a divergence.  Will it be before or after Isaac is debrained?  His character is pretty dull now so it wouldn't surprise me if it's after.  It would add more drama to trying to stop Peter the exploding boy, too.

Over and out.
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Reply #415 on: March 06, 2007, 09:36:52 AM

Maybe the bomb does go off?
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Reply #416 on: March 06, 2007, 09:43:33 AM

Fuckity fuck fuck Rage sweeps week cockgobbling thundercunt douchetwats

April Fucking 23rd. Bitchass pubesnatchers. As in you literally steal into the bedrooms of pre-pubescent boys and steal their pubes each night. Fuck your sweeps weeks right in its tiny, outdated asshole.





/breathe

Great fucking episode. It's nice that characters are still surprising me after this long, specifically Mohinder not being as stupid as we thought last week, Claire's mom being smarter than even Bennett thought, and Peter/Nathan's mom having something to do with the whole thing. The whole Linderman reveal wasn't nearly as shocking or surprising as I'd hoped, but it was cool seeing Jessica show up to cap the FBI agents, and DL not being a dumbass about what's going on with Nikki.

Ando is definitely working for Hiro's dad. I'm not going to be surprised if the Haitan is working with a section of the Company that's against Eric Roberts' section, as if perhaps there are conspiracies within conspiracies.

We still don't know for sure that it's Peter that blows up. Roberts or Linderman may plant Ted the Sparky Boy in the middle of New York to manuever Nathan nearer the White House.

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Reply #417 on: March 06, 2007, 09:45:41 AM

I'm not going to be surprised if the Haitan is working with a section of the Company that's against Eric Roberts' section, as if perhaps there are conspiracies within conspiracies.

Well, didn't he actually say something a few episodes back about his actions being directed from someone "higher up" in the company? I'm assuming that's the Petrelli mom (or some associate of her dead husband?).
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Reply #418 on: March 06, 2007, 01:01:39 PM

What's interesting about this show is that they seem to put a lot of information out there through the show, the comics, and the websites, for people who really want to get some answers.  For instance, people have noticed that Mr. Bennet and Sylar's father were both born in 1962, and that Primatech was also established that year.  Some fans also did their research and found out that in 1962 (in real life):

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During the new moon and solar eclipse of February 4-5, 1962, an extremely rare grand conjunction of the classical planets occurred (it included all five of the naked-eye planets plus the Sun and Moon), all of them within 16° of one another on the ecliptic. At the precise moment of the new moon/solar eclipse, five celestial bodies (the Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, and Jupiter) were clustered within 3° of each other, with the Earth in close conjunction with them. Taken in totality though, this grand conjunction included the Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn, with the Earth also in alignment with the Sun and Moon at the exact moment of the new moon/solar eclipse (eight celestial bodies in total).

The writers have also seemed to indicate that Uluru, also known as Ayers Rock, may have some siginifigance and have encouraged fans looking for answers or wanting to put together theories, to do some research on it.  There's a lot of interesting stuff out there for people really looking to get into the backstory, but it's not necessary to enjoy the show.  All in all, I'm impressed at how much work goes into to making this series.
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Reply #419 on: March 08, 2007, 04:48:30 PM

My one Heroes spoiler: The guy who plays Nathan Petrelli was in Top Gun. I didn't use IMDB to cheat either. I just finished watching Top Gun.
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