Heroes (SPOILERS)

[Bunk]

I want to say that the metallic thing is an inhibitor.  Which would be why the good doctor was beaten to death instead of all sliced up.

I looked at it and though, "Is that a wingnut?"

Two cool points for me in this episode. One, Eccelston is just awesome. Perfect quirky role for him. Two, its always heartwarming to see Takai in a role that doesn't involve grovelling to James T. Kirk.

[Edison]

Odd, just clicking on teh logo gets you in....but no combo of usernames and passwords from what you posted gets you into the files beyond the first one -- which is rather nifty, and I guess makes sense if you just simply assume that THAT's the file you're to access.

In the Hana Gitelman personal history section some of the numbers/letters are hilighted in blue unless I've missed some GGeh81zU , dosn't seem to work as a password to any of the other files, no clue what if anything it's for.

I'll go back to lurking now.

[MuffinMan]

That character string you get from Hana's file is the password for C004, Sylar's.

[CmdrSlack]

Well, for some reason, I'm not using the right username to use the passwords. (The only one I've been trying is Bennet)  It also seems that I have to log in from the about us page now, where I didn't before.  Strange.

[SnakeCharmer]

Well, for some reason, I'm not using the right username to use the passwords. (The only one I've been trying is Bennet)  It also seems that I have to log in from the about us page now, where I didn't before.  Strange.

Thats because....

You're on the list!!!!!!!






Anyway, did they or did they not have something hooked up the thing in Sylar's head? 

[Merusk]

Y'know, I was thinking about Heroes earlier today, and decided the show's pissing me off and I'm about done with it.  We'll see where it winds-up in June when the season ends, but right now It's "On Notice." 

A large part of it is it's feeling "Lost-ish"  Lots of buildup, very very little payoff.   The other part is right now we have TWENTY characters to follow, and six tangential characters and they don't look to be slowing down the additions.   If anything I expect those 6 others to windup Heroes as well and get their own damn storylines. WTF, it's like War & Peace for Television.  That's too damn many characters to be following, even with the overlap so many have.

[MuffinMan]

Y'know, I was thinking about Heroes earlier today, and decided the show's pissing me off and I'm about done with it.  We'll see where it winds-up in June when the season ends, but right now It's "On Notice." 

A large part of it is it's feeling "Lost-ish"  Lots of buildup, very very little payoff.   The other part is right now we have TWENTY characters to follow, and six tangential characters and they don't look to be slowing down the additions.   If anything I expect those 6 others to windup Heroes as well and get their own damn storylines. WTF, it's like War & Peace for Television.  That's too damn many characters to be following, even with the overlap so many have.

I totally agree about all the build-up with no payoff but I don't get the having "too many characters to follow" beef. There's not THAT many characters to follow. Hell, I consider Ando and Hiro pretty much one character since everything they do is together. I feel the same with Nika/Jessica, DL, and Micah, which btw, I HATE and pretty much just ignore.

[Merusk]

My beef is in terms of development and storyline.  Twenty folks is a lot to follow and have them go anywhere.  You can do things like this with traditional comics, because each hero has their own book or long backstory to develop the character.  Right now we're just getting unsatisfying glimpses of things because of the number of people being followed.

  Show a scene wtih Ando & Hiro, then flash to Micha and JD, now a snapshot of Claire, OOH HRG, where's he at.. ok now over to the Cop and hey we're done!  Nevermind we didn't touch on Mohinder, Sylar, the Radiation man, Peter, Nathan, the invisible dude, the new chick from the webcomic and Linderman this week, that's next week! Week after that, maybe we'll roll in the 2 new heroes we came up with in the previous two episodes!

It's getting frustrating.

[Samwise]

It's true.  It wouldn't suck if they picked just one person/group to follow for an entire episode once in a while, story arc permitting.

[Velorath]

My take on Heroes after having watched for the first time the 13 episodes that have aired over the past few days:


I'm enjoying the show, although a lot of characters and plot elements seem heavily borrowed from various comics, in particular X-men and Rising Stars.  I like the pacing of the show, and in particular the amount of time they spend building the characters.  Maybe I'm misunderstanding what some people here are saying when they want more payoff, but why would you have payoff in the middle of a story?  You can resolve some plot threads (and they have), but payoff implies the conclusion of a major story arc (the explosion, Sylar) which are obviously being built up for the end of the season.

In response to Stray's comments in particular about there not being enough superheroics in a show about superheroes, that's one of the things I'm really enjoying about this show.  I can watch Spider-man, Batman, X-men, or whatever for traditional superheroics.  I'd rather see a take on superheroes like what they're doing, where not everyone decides to fall into the hero or villain category, and not every power is some flashy, explosion causing ability they can use in a fight, than see standard superheroics, especially when Hollywood is doing its best to churn that kind of stuff out right now.  I think Isaac's ability to draw the future, is a lot more interesting to me than seeing superhero battles, even if it's not as flashy.

[Sairon]

I just finished the first 13 episodes as well.

First of all, there's a decent amount of "why the fuck doesn't he/she just" moments, which is kind of pissing me off. There's also some things that's a bit of a stretch. For example, how can Mohinder miss the symbol in the code after studying it for so long? It's totally just made up of - . Also, Sylar being at the total brink of death beats up the doctor without his super powers? I hope that gets at least a little attention in the next episode. I also hope that they explain Hiros loss of power more closely beside just attributing it to the loss of the mind girl.

Overall I agree with the fact that there's to little shit actually happening, I watched all 13 episodes over a period of 2 days and probably would have lost intrest if I had to wait between each episode.

Also, highly unlikely if the show is gaining more popularity, but I hope they will only let it run for a set amount of seasons with a grand ending. I can't stomach the classic super hero comics because I can't get excited when I know that main characters can't freaking die.

[Samwise]

Re: Hiro, I think it's mostly psychological.  He was powerless to save Charlie, so now he feels "powerless" all the time.

Re: Sylar, he's a complete wildcard because we don't know the extent of the powers he's absorbed from his various victims.  Nothing he does surprises me.  I agree, it's annoying and I hope they explain further at some point.

[Velorath]

I think Hiro's power loss is either psychological, or it stems from him getting too far off track from his "mission".  We saw him teleport against his will when he was trying to save Charlie, which suggests that there's some sort of an "outside influence" for lack of a better way of putting it, that is involved with his powers.  Whether that's destiny or just the time stream's defenese against getting too fucked up remains to be seen.

[stray]

which suggests that there's some sort of an "outside influence" for lack of a better way of putting it, that is involved with his powers.

Lets chalk that one up to Linderman too. 

[Velorath]

which suggests that there's some sort of an "outside influence" for lack of a better way of putting it, that is involved with his powers.

Lets chalk that one up to Linderman too. 

Maybe he's rich enough to buy the time stream.

[stray]

Something's up with him. Wait and see! ;)

That he collects the paintings and has Hiro's sword, before even any of the main cast knows that they need those things, is pretty strange.

[Velorath]

Maybe he's Hiro from reaaaaaaaally far into future 

[Samwise]

Like in that episode of Red Dwarf where they're visited by their corrupt future selves?  That'd be an entertaining twist.

[CmdrSlack]

For some stupid reason, my damn DVR didn't record Heroes as planned, so I missed the first 22 minutes of this week's episode.  A quick check on SciFi for Friday's schedule doesn't show a re-run of this week's episode.  Does anyone know if you can see the episodes on the NBC website or YouTube or something like that?  I don't want to download it from a torrent, I just want to legally watch the part of the episode that I missed. 

I basically came in on a convo between Hiro and his sister.  Is it worth me tracking down the first 20 mins or were they kind of meh?

[SnakeCharmer]

You can catch the episodes here.  I think you can catch all the episodes there.

What a freaking awesome episode, easily IMHO, the best yet.

Christopher Eccleston / Invisible Man is rapidly becoming my favorite 'hero' of the show, right along with the Hatian.  Tossing Peter off the building was pure genius, not to mention punching his lights out when Peter starting losing it.  Simplest solution is usually the best one. 

Good to see Hiro taking more steps towards his 'destiny', and confronting his father was probably a huge one.

I'm wondering why Linderman got the charges dropped against Niki....

Extremely happy that they picked up the pace of the show in this episode, as it was sorely needed.  I think, however, if there wasn't that 8 week or so lapse between season 1 and season 1.5, noone would really complain or think about it much. 

[ClydeJr]

Check out the license plate of Hiro's dad's car...

[Trippy]

Though if you *really* wanted to be nerdy it should've been NCC-2000.

[Mazakiel]

That was a great episode.  I'm glad we're finally seeing Peter get a handle of his powers, and Mr. Invisible is turning into a much more interesting character than I expected.  And he seems to have a past with HRG, which should be fun. 

I also hope we haven't seen the last of Hiro's dad. 

[HaemishM]

Also, Sylar being at the total brink of death beats up the doctor without his super powers?

Sylar's original power is the ability to look at something and know how to fix it. Once he learned how to "fix" himself so that he absorbed other powers, he gained a great deal of control over his own body. I'm sure he was faking it, slipping into a coma while repairing any of the damage Mr. Bennett's doctors did on him.

[Miguel]

It seems like they have established that powers can be/are hereditary, so it seems that perhaps Hiro's sister and father have powers which will be revealed later in the show.  Perhaps even Peter's mother has one as well, like being able to conjure up a glass of scotch at will? ;)

I thought it was a solid episode as well.

[Sairon]

Sylar's original power is the ability to look at something and know how to fix it. Once he learned how to "fix" himself so that he absorbed other powers, he gained a great deal of control over his own body. I'm sure he was faking it, slipping into a coma while repairing any of the damage Mr. Bennett's doctors did on him.

I think that's a bit of a stretch, but hopefully it will be reflected on what went wrong later on. Also, it turns out Sylar isn't such a bad guy after all, he had a free shot at killing Mr B but didn't.

Also, the ending, I hate it. It's turning into Lost. Everybody will turn out to be related to everybody in some mysterious fucked up way. It feels cheap.

I might sound pessimistic, but even though I think a lot of actions and other things doesn't make sense, it's very watchable.

[CmdrSlack]

Also, the ending, I hate it. It's turning into Lost. Everybody will turn out to be related to everybody in some mysterious fucked up way. It feels cheap.

Well, that at least follows the comic book hero trends, right?  Look at Marvel.  There's a huge multiverse and everyone has been in a book with everyone else at least once.  Maybe I'm wrong on that stat, but it feels that way to me.  Heck, I'm willing to forgive that shit simply because it makes a tiny bit of sense that a bunch of similar people, of whom there aren't too many, would somehow be related by virtue of their differentness.

[stray]

Well...

You guys called it. I really didn't expect Nathan to be her father. Thought that would be so too lame.

Oh well, not a bad episode anyways though.

[Samwise]

I was almost certain that her father was going to be the Invisible Man.  That would have been amusing.  Oh well.

For a second I had the wild idea that maybe Peter's power-recall thing would only work with members of his family (since we now know that Claire is his niece), and that that'd be an interesting limitation on it, but then I realized that he's not terribly likely to be related to Isaac, Matt, and Radioactive Man, all of whose powers he started to manifest before being clocked.  So scratch that too.

[Wolf]

I think that peter is going to die at the end of the season. If he learns to control his power, he'll turn into too much of a pwnmachine. I don't know what they can think of for season two that can oppose Peter doing the regenration/timetravel/superpower/fire/telekinesis/flying stuff. Unless they bring in kryptonite :P

[Tale]

I think that peter is going to die at the end of the season. If he learns to control his power, he'll turn into too much of a pwnmachine. I don't know what they can think of for season two that can oppose Peter doing the regenration/timetravel/superpower/fire/telekinesis/flying stuff. Unless they bring in kryptonite :P

I don't think Peter will die, because future Hiro with the sword came back and told him he looked "different without the scar". So at least in the future that Hiro came from, Peter seemed to be an important, continued part of it.

[MuffinMan]

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[Velorath]

I think that peter is going to die at the end of the season. If he learns to control his power, he'll turn into too much of a pwnmachine. I don't know what they can think of for season two that can oppose Peter doing the regenration/timetravel/superpower/fire/telekinesis/flying stuff. Unless they bring in kryptonite :P

I don't think they'll ever give him full control over his powers, and the fear of going nuclear will keep him from being too powerful.

[Morfiend]

I think that peter is going to die at the end of the season. If he learns to control his power, he'll turn into too much of a pwnmachine. I don't know what they can think of for season two that can oppose Peter doing the regenration/timetravel/superpower/fire/telekinesis/flying stuff. Unless they bring in kryptonite :P

I don't think Peter will die, because future Hiro with the sword came back and told him he looked "different without the scar". So at least in the future that Hiro came from, Peter seemed to be an important, continued part of it.

I agree with Tale, also, in case no one noticed Peter is basically turning into the "good" version of Syler, he can absorb people powers, but he does it by caring about them instead of chopping them um. I think he core power is some kind of empathy. Even though they called Isack "the empath".

And again, I have been saying from the begining that the show could turn out to "Lostie" where not much really happens, and when it does, its kind of a let down. Its also hard for it to follow the day after Rome, where so much crap happens its had to keep track of it all.

[Rasix]

Even though they called Isack "the empath".

I thought they referred to him as the "precog".