Heroes (SPOILERS)

[DevilsAdvocate]

Not sure if anyone watched, but the last episode and the one right before "6 Months Ago" were shown back to back this past Monday. The series begins again on January 22nd. This coming Monday is an awards show not related to Heroes.

Are you on the List?

[tazelbain]

> Are you on the List?
Bleh. Are we going to have suffer a new idiotic slogan for every major story arc?

[DevilsAdvocate]

> Are you on the List?
Bleh. Are we going to have suffer a new idiotic slogan for every major story arc?

Yes, you are, but only because "You are not prepared!"

New episode tonight! Yay!

[SnakeCharmer]

Well.
Thoughts?

[bhodi]

Meh; it's been "coming together" for about 3 episodes now. Stop dragging it out. I like the show still, but you'd better be going somewhere with all of this or I'm going to lose interest.

[stray]

Agreed. When a historical drama (i.e. Rome) has more intensity, action, and exciting things happening in every episode than a superhero show, then there's something wrong.

[HaemishM]

You fuckers sure get jaded quick. That episode was fine as the start to a second chapter, to intro some new characters and reset the status quo. There are probably at least 10 more new episodes coming (22 episode season) and a second season, so there's plenty of time to go balls to the wall.

EDIT: As for comparisons to Rome, Rome has 13-episodes and it's done. You pretty much HAVE to have action wall-to-wall. It's just two different writing styles.

[Mazakiel]

I liked it.  Yeah, they spent some time sorta recovering old ground, but there were also several developments, and some groundwork set for the next few episodes, which look pretty promising.  I liked that we're seeing Sprague again, and what he's been up to. 

[stray]

You fuckers sure get jaded quick. That episode was fine as the start to a second chapter, to intro some new characters and reset the status quo. There are probably at least 10 more new episodes coming (22 episode season) and a second season, so there's plenty of time to go balls to the wall.

EDIT: As for comparisons to Rome, Rome has 13-episodes and it's done. You pretty much HAVE to have action wall-to-wall. It's just two different writing styles.

I'm not jaded. I've been saying this. I'd have to be a big fan first before being jaded.

I like the concept and all, and it does have it's moments, but at this point, I think I'm watching it in spite of the actual show itself. I want a show about heroes to be cool.

Yes, it's a different writing style, but it's one I don't like. I don't care for Lost either.

Rome goes for heavy character development too, but yet, Marc Antony is still understandable from the get go. Titus Pullo from the get go. In every scene, they're right there in your face, dominating the scenery, telling you to look at them, telling you exactly what they're all about. And then they keep surprising you somehow. The entire show is that way.

Heroes has probably spent 120 minutes total focusing on Peter's brooding face, and I still don't know who the fuck he is.

[Morfiend]

Thats what I have been saying from the get go. The show just doesnt give you any meat. Its all development, thats doesnt really develop anything. The only characters that have done much of anything are Hiro and Clair. They need to actually have "stuff happen". The whole "Save the Cheerleader" thing was sooooo anti-climactic. To save the cheerleader Peter just had to be there to run away and fall off a building. Come on. Lets have some thing super happen already.

I still enjoy the show, but when you are looking forward to Lost to "have something happen" you know the show is lagging.

[DevilsAdvocate]

So, in the episode, HRG gives Mohinder a business card with the following web address on it:

http://www.primatechpaper.com/

It's a real website on the internet with a Jobs section that requires a pass code to get into it. Looking at the Source html for that page, it looks like it could be "hacked" to give access to that section of the website. I wonder if NBC hid any goodies on this page... 

[sigil]

Or you can just call the phone number at get the message from there.   :-D

[Samwise]

Bah!  Phones!

Code:

function checkThisl(form)
{
	primac = "f90ad64d3e6fc85b784c2b11595c1sa0";

	if (hex_md5(trim(form.code.value)) == primac)
	{
		window.location = unescape("%68%74%74%70%3A%2F%2F%77%77%77%2E%70%72%69%6D%61%74%65%63%68%70%61%70%65%72%2E%63%6F%6D%2F%6A%6F%62%73");
	}
	else
	{
		alert("The code you have entered is incorrect.");
	}
	
	return false;
}

I don't think this part of the site has been implemented yet, for two reasons:

1) "f90ad64d3e6fc85b784c2b11595c1sa0" can't be a real hex MD5 digest, because it has an "s" in it.  There can't exist a string that will pass the test on the page.
2) The URL that would get popped up if you had the right code, http://www.primatechpaper.com/jobs (that's what the "unescape" ASCII glop translates to), doesn't have anything on it.

My guess is that the site will be updated just before the code is revealed in an upcoming episode.

[MuffinMan]

Pass code is mt36. You can get it by calling their telephone number. I got an e-mail response a couple days after filling out the "app" It said they had no job openings that fitted my skill set.

[Samwise]

Further proof, if any was needed, that I don't know JavaScript from a hole in a ground.     (Why name a function "hex_md5" if the thing it returns isn't going to be in hex...?)

[Chenghiz]

(Why name a function "hex_md5" if the thing it returns isn't going to be in hex...?)

Subterfuge!

[CmdrSlack]

Wikipedia has it covered, it seems.  This is yet another ARG or something similar....at least that's what the entry says under the heading, "Heroes 360 Experience."

[Dren]

Thats what I have been saying from the get go. The show just doesnt give you any meat. Its all development, thats doesnt really develop anything. The only characters that have done much of anything are Hiro and Clair. They need to actually have "stuff happen". The whole "Save the Cheerleader" thing was sooooo anti-climactic. To save the cheerleader Peter just had to be there to run away and fall off a building. Come on. Lets have some thing super happen already.

I still enjoy the show, but when you are looking forward to Lost to "have something happen" you know the show is lagging.

Those are my complaints so far too.  They do not follow the traditional method of having small "shows" within a full season "show" that is within a larger "show" that spans the existence of the program.  Instead, we just see tiny bits of the overall "show" that could go on for years depending on the ratings.

My opinion is that they need to have smaller events happen with some beginnings and endings or people will start to lose interest.  Heck, I've lost it several times and just plain forgot to watch the show.  I have really had to struggle to keep up on this show only because I want more shows like this on Primetime.  I'm just glad they let you watch the past episodes on their website because I really only caught like 2 throughout the seaons on Monday night.

It is strange.  I really like to watch the show.  I find myself interested, but when it comes to fifteen minutes left I find myself looking at the clock and complaining that nothing actually happened AGAIN!  It drives me nuts.

[HaemishM]

I see where the disconnect is. You guys who think the show drifts are used to TV shows that have "filler" or self-contained episodes with overall arc stories interspersed. You like shows that have beginning/middle/end narratively-speaking. Heroes is one of those continuity shows that just continues. It's all mostly arc stories, or little pieces of the bigger story arc. I actually like the little pieces of the bigger arc story shows. A lot of shows that use self-contained episodes often make me feel like those episodes, while good, aren't as important. i.e. they are filler. Babylon 5 was like that. Though I enjoyed many of the filler episodes, they weren't as important to me as advancing the overall arc.

[SnakeCharmer]

Great episode.

- The Invisible Man is now my favorite 'hero', along with the Haitian
- The introduction of Claire's mother was perfect
- Hiro is making steps to being 'Badass Hiro with swords and a soulpatch'
- The Syler thing was predictable, unfortunately
- Hiro's father showing up was priceless

So...Who is Claire's father?  Purple shirt, nice watch? 

[stray]

So...Who is Claire's father?  Purple shirt, nice watch? 

Linderman. i.e. The Kingpin.


But yeah, good show. A lot happened.

[SnakeCharmer]

So...Who is Claire's father?  Purple shirt, nice watch? 

Linderman. i.e. The Kingpin.


But yeah, good show. A lot happened.

Wouldn't that be just a little too obvious or convenient?

Why do you think that?

[stray]

Everything about Linderman is "convenient". He has Hiro's sword. He collects Isaac's paintings. He has dealings with both Niki and Nathan. Seems like that guy has ties with everyone.

Claire's biological father? Hell, why not.

Her father is definitely someone mentioned in the show already. The sneak preview kind of made it out like he was someone at least vaguely familiar to the viewers (either that, or it's a famous actor we're all familiar with...But I doubt that's what they meant).

Whoever her dad is, I do think it's about that time to finally reveal Linderman though.

[SnakeCharmer]

I can see your point.

My wife, who isn't as in to the show as I am, said it was (Claire's father) was Nathan.  He is old enough to be her father, and has shown he'll cheat on his wife.  Hell, he may not have been married when he fathered Claire, if it was him. 

Who knows.

I'm hoping it's not Linderman.  Though if it was someone unknown, they would (I believe) have introduced him this ep, rather than leaving it on a cliff hanger.

[bhodi]

Did I miss something? Did I miss the last part of the ep? The last segment I saw was claire calling and a woman answering the phone saying she was her mother.

[stray]

They have previews for the following week during the end credits.

[MuffinMan]

New e-mail sent from PrimaTech this morning.

Want to try to get into his files too? Go to primatechpaper.com, find the helix hidden in the logo on the 'About us' page.

Enter the username bennet and password claire. The password to get into my file is HGghx11a. Get 2 know me.

[CmdrSlack]

New e-mail sent from PrimaTech this morning.

Want to try to get into his files too? Go to primatechpaper.com, find the helix hidden in the logo on the 'About us' page.

Enter the username bennet and password claire. The password to get into my file is HGghx11a. Get 2 know me.

Odd, just clicking on teh logo gets you in....but no combo of usernames and passwords from what you posted gets you into the files beyond the first one -- which is rather nifty, and I guess makes sense if you just simply assume that THAT's the file you're to access.

As far as the show goes, I really enjoy it.  I don't see it as being such an issue that it's "slow."  I think it makes sense to develop the various characters and their powers slowly.  Some have more control over their abilities than others and so it seems logical that they'd have to spend time with each character developing their powers and control. 

[HaemishM]

My wife, who isn't as in to the show as I am, said it was (Claire's father) was Nathan.  He is old enough to be her father, and has shown he'll cheat on his wife.  Hell, he may not have been married when he fathered Claire, if it was him. 

That was exactly what I thought when I saw the watch. He does have a thing for blondes, even though his wife isn't (unless the carpet doesn't match the drapes).

Good episode, and I love Eccleston's Invisible Man character. It coincides so well with me watching the last few episodes of his Doctor Who season just this past weekend.

[Hutch]

LOL

You have attempted to access a page
that you are not authorized to view.
Your IP address has been noted.

XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX

Future attempts to access may result in legal action.

Click here to return to the Primatech Paper home page.

[bhodi]

They have previews for the following week during the end credits.

Oh. Bah. I deliberately don't watch those. Oh well, I guess it's spoilers in here, i can't complain, even if it is for an episode that hasn't aired yet.

[DevilsAdvocate]

Any ideas what that shiny metallic thing was on the back of Sylar's head when he confronts Mr. Bennett?

Pretty great episode. The invisibility was sweet. I like the invisible man character. I liked when he walked away on the street and Peter faded back in.

Claire's mom is a Pyro!

One thing I thought was a little inconsistent was Mohinder refusing to show the list to Mr. Bennett, but handing a PRINTOUT to Nathan Petrelli within a minute of the man walking in the door. A bit reckless of him.

Anyone think that after the kid stole all that money from the ATM's that it's going to setup a big problem for them in the future? Or that his dad might make a token gesture to return the money, but then just keep it? For a supposed criminal, D.L. seems to want to be an upstanding, good guy.

Last week, there was a 7 minute preview in Deal or No Deal that showed Ted and introduced the Wireless character from the graphic novel. Does anyone know if they did that this week too?

[MrHat]

I want to say that the metallic thing is an inhibitor.  Which would be why the good doctor was beaten to death instead of all sliced up.

[HaemishM]

One thing I thought was a little inconsistent was Mohinder refusing to show the list to Mr. Bennett, but handing a PRINTOUT to Nathan Petrelli within a minute of the man walking in the door. A bit reckless of him.

Well, Mohinder does know that Nathan is on the list, and has a vested interest in not misusing the list. He has no such illusions about Mr. Bennett, because he's not on the list and has shown himself to be a duplicitious fucker before.

[MuffinMan]

Odd, just clicking on teh logo gets you in....but no combo of usernames and passwords from what you posted gets you into the files beyond the first one -- which is rather nifty, and I guess makes sense if you just simply assume that THAT's the file you're to access.

As far as the show goes, I really enjoy it.  I don't see it as being such an issue that it's "slow."  I think it makes sense to develop the various characters and their powers slowly.  Some have more control over their abilities than others and so it seems logical that they'd have to spend time with each character developing their powers and control. 

Yea I'm pretty sure the first file is the one you are supposed to look at. I assume it's that person in the file that sent the e-mail since they are saying "get 2 know me". Her file says she can manipulate wireless transmissions and I remember getting a page one time where it said something like someone was trying to hack the web site. Must have been her.

Anyways, I like this added content outside of the show. When Micah was withdrawing money from the ATM, I said I wonder who's account he's taking it from and my wife said, "your's". Now THAT would be some show immersion.