Heroes (SPOILERS)

[schild]

Predictions? Who's going to become a character if they aren't already?

[stray]

The show could use another female. That's all I can say.

[schild]

You should watch Boston Legal. If you already do, watch it more.

Edit: Also, I really didn't like this last episode of Heroes.

[Luxor]

Predictions? Who's going to become a character if they aren't already?

I'll predict it'll be an American.

[sigil]

Not the best episode of  Heroes, but a useful one.

I liked the insight into Gabriel (Sylar), and it was a really good Hiro Episode. It explained why Super Congressman has the issues he has, particularly with his power.


And I definitely like the girl with the Dune Voice with short hair.

[HaemishM]

Son of a Bitch!  Fucking Cliches.

Which cliches? The "hero can't fix everything" cliche or the "abused girl makes multiple personality" cliche? I think we can expect a number of cliches out of a super hero story.

I loved last night's episode. Hiro just keeps getting pounded on, and I hope it's to shape him into badassitude with a samurai sword. The Sylar thing as watchmaker reminded me of Dr. Manhatten from the Watchmen series.

[tazelbain]

Since evolution is a main theme, I was think he's an evil Watchmaker who thinks he can tinker with the powers and do better than evolution.

I admit the Hiro/Charlie love story was cute.  Now looking back at the first Charlie episode.  She had given up her dream to travel and knew her life was in emanate danger just to be with Hiro just a little bit longer.  But brain aneurysm?  Also it say the theory time travel is fate, except of course what writers deem worthy of changed.  Just an assload of Deus Ex Machina.

As far as Nikki/Jessica thing, I have come to expect that story to suck.  That it continues to suck is no surprise.

[sigil]

If we're lucky, that sniper rifle will misfire and take her ass out.

[Morfiend]

I dont understand why they spent so much time and effort making Syler a secret, and then he turned out to be some random new guy. Meh.

It was a decent episode, but I agree Nikki/Jessica story is just so "I dont care", I think she is doing a decent acting job, but her storyline is so "meh" that I just cant care. When they are showing her, I want them to just go back to any of the other characters.

Hiro is cool. I kind of like that some "cosmic fate" or some thing is keeping him from changing the past, it make the show much more easy for the writers, or the answer to every problem could be "Have Hiro go back and change it".

[Reg]

The thing is, he did change the past. The first time he met her in the diner was the first time for both of them. Then he went 6 months into the past and suddenly all the rest of the staff at the diner knew who he was because he'd been the waitress' boyfriend for a weeks back then.

If she'd just been going to be murdered I think he could have saved her from that. But having an inoperable brain aneurysm was something he couldn't help with.

[Morfiend]

The thing is, he did change the past. The first time he met her in the diner was the first time for both of them. Then he went 6 months into the past and suddenly all the rest of the staff at the diner knew who he was because he'd been the waitress' boyfriend for a weeks back then.

If she'd just been going to be murdered I think he could have saved her from that. But having an inoperable brain aneurysm was something he couldn't help with.

Yeah, but he couldnt even stop her from being murdered cause the "cosmic force" made him teleport away, and then wouldnt let him come back.

[HaemishM]

I don't think she was murdered after he went back, but I could be wrong. I'll have to go back and watch the episodes again.

[schild]

I don't think she was murdered after he went back, but I could be wrong. I'll have to go back and watch the episodes again.

He couldn't save her. He said that he kept showing up. He went back, forward, everywhere. Could not save her.

If anything, his going back in time timeline changed the entire way Syler worked as he could've killed her earlier and absorbed the ability to memorize everything about all the heroes. This would help him in very, very obvious ways.

[Tale]

Re Sylar, I've seen this theory on another forum and I like it:

Sylar's original superpower is to see when things are broken and how to fix them, just by looking at them. This extends from watches to people. The Professor made him aware that powers occurr due to something technically "wrong" with a person. He looked into the telekinetic guy and told him he knew how to fix him, i.e. he saw into him like a clockwork watch.

This doesn't yet explain how he acquires their powers via their brains, but perhaps it's just through gaining an understanding of how their "deficiency" works and replicating it.

[SnakeCharmer]

Hiro and Charlie:

He might have saved her from Sylar, but has anyone entertained the possibility that she died (aneurysm) before Sylar could get to her?  I don't recall if the diner still looked like a murder scene investigation or not....

[stray]

Ando still knew about the murder when Hiro returned. So more than likely, Sylar really killed her.

In other news, it turns out some guy I've known for awhile is good friends with "Mohinder". His mom is some big doctor in my hometown too.

[Merusk]

Any guesses as to which Hero doesn't make it, per the commercials?  DL is the obvious choice, but I've got my eye on Eden.

[HaemishM]

Micah.

[Dren]

According to the Candian preview I saw on the net, it might be the girl that can whisper suggestions.  They showed a fast clip of Sylar having her by the throat.

I really wish it would be Sylar that dies though.  Unless they can really explain this logic jump of him getting the powers from the other heroes, his character is just annoying.  Are they going to tell us he eats the brains or something?  Does he actually operate on his own brain?  Just knowing what is different about somebody's brain to make them have powers doesn't allow you to just have them.  Otherwise, he could do it without killing them and actually taking the brain.

He could diagnose the watch without even opening it for instance.

Ok, who is placing bets that they stop the guy from nuking himself by unleashing Sylar on him?

[Bunk]

As I stated before, it has to be Eden as I made the mistake of decalring her my favorite bit character in the show.

That and the fact that she still only gets listed as a guest star each week.

Damnit.

[Dren]

Micah.

That would be interesting as it would result in the crazy stripper chasing down the crazy watchmaker perhaps.  Maybe they'll end up killing each other and end two storylines I like the least.

[Merusk]

"I really need to find that sword."

Damn, I haven't laughed that hard in weeks.   

And of course it was Bunk's call.  Jan 22nd seems so far away.

[SnakeCharmer]

Bah.

Not at all pleased with tonights episode.  Guess I had it built up to too much.

Just.
Bah.

[Mazakiel]

Huh.  For the most part, I loved it.  My only real complaint would be that I don't want to wait til the 22nd for a new episode. 

[SnakeCharmer]

So, someone explain to me why Peter is sick?

[Zetleft]

So, someone explain to me why Peter is sick?

Judging from the preview for the next episode I'd guess radiation poisoning.   

[Merusk]

It's labled (Spoilers) so no need for micro-text.    The radiation guy escaped police custody, so where would Pete have been exposed enough to catch a dose?

[Nevermore]

And where are Peter's visions coming from?  How ruthless is Mr. Bennet to do that to everyone who might have known about Clair's ability?  Including his wife, apparently a bunch of times.

And of course it was Bunk's call.

Yeah, she was one of my favorites too.  I'd rather have seen a de-brained Niki/Jessica.

[Tale]

FYI - from this thread on November 8

As for the nuke, I'm thinking that it isn't the distraught husband, it's Syler gaining the distraught husband's powers by killing him and eating his brain.

What about Peter? He could also end up with the nuke powers and he's potentially a vulnerable/emotional character too. He could end up accidentally becoming a risk while trying to "save the world", depending on the actions of his brother, his girlfriend, g-man, etc.

Just call me Isaac :P

[Hoax]

Actually I think Eden dies long before Jessica/Nikki

Pwnt.

It was almost sadly predictable.  The rest of the ep was solid though, and as usual Claire looked way hotter then any 17 yr old should...

I thought at the time that Peter was sick because his body hadn't done as good a job with the full healing from the fall as we thought.  He got the obvious stuff but didn't know how to use the regeneration well enough to heal all internal injuries or it was my favorite character the Haitian inadvertently screwing him up.

[Tale]

or it was my favorite character the Haitian inadvertently screwing him up.

Makes sense. Blocking the healing ability, maybe even putting it backwards a little. His speciality is winding back people's brains, so why not the same for powers.

[Nevermore]

Claire visited Peter in his jail cell though, and Peter's powers were definitely still working at that point because of the whole Peter/Matt mindreading segment.  So whatever is affecting Peter has to be serious enough to actually exceed a second dose of Claire powered regen.

I think the most interesting part of the episode was that short part with the Haitian and Claire.  Seems there's a lot more to him than people realize.

[Tebonas]

Let me play Isaac for a change:

Beginning radation sickness same as human bomb guys sister? had. He snatched his power somehow.

Edit: His=human bomb guys

[HaemishM]

Mr. Haitian and Eden had some kind of agenda different from Mr. Bennett. Perhaps they have realized that Bennett's group is fucking with them and they are banding together to protect themselves and other specials. Maybe the Haitian is really a Xavier type, bringing everyone together. Maybe he's the one who has been tweaking Bennett to do what he's been doing all these years. After all, he does fuck with minds, who says he can't have been fucking with Bennett's.

Peter's sickness I can't quite fathom, unless Sylar gave him a whammy before walking off. Or maybe he's giving him a whammy from inside Peter's dreams. When Peter first woke up from that dream other than being freaked the fuck out. After being around Parkman, he starts getting sick. Maybe it was the Haitian, maybe it was Sylar from afar. We don't know what powers he's absorbed.

Sylar's deal is that he can see "how something works" and then fix it. He may not so much absorb other's powers, I think what he does is alter his own DNA after getting a peek at the special's brain which shows him how that power works. That's why Eden capped herself in the head, so he couldn't absorb her power.

I'm going to be that Micah has the same power as Sylar, he just hasn't figured out that he can fuck with people's (and his own) body yet. He can see how things work and fix them, but only if he can touch them (such as computer board's and payphones). Maybe he's constrained from doing it to people because he doesn't want to hurt them. Peter's ability to mimic a power isn't the same as Sylar's. Or I could be totally off.

Jan. 22 is a long goddamn time away.

[MrHat]

I get the feeling that HRG guy's HRG's are like Magneto's helmet.  But I can't figure out a way to explain this.  It was nice to see that he's getting orders from somewhere though.  And the Haitian dude being 6-sides of awesome is nice too.

Re: Peter's sickness.  I'm still of the opinion that these mutations are a sickness, and that some mutants (for lack of a better word) die from it (Mohinder's sister).  Mr. Bennett said to Syler that he was losing his mind, maybe from changing his DNA so much.  Peter might have the same problem, but his body isn't coping well with undergoing so much genetic mutation.

I think Micah is super fucking smart + good with electronics.  I don't think it extends past that though.  And have we decided that Nikki was just batshit, or is her power Jessica?  If so, will Peter lose his fucking mind too?  Will there be a good Syler?  Why doesn't DL just ghost the bullet out of his shoulder?