Useless Conversation

[Ironwood]

Don't apologise.  All types of awesome.

[K9]

Burning stuff is one of the best types of cartharsis

[Rasix]

LOTUS NOTES


 

[K9]

Burn it?

[RhyssaFireheart]

It's kind of sad there are still companies out there still using Lotus Notes.  :(

[Rasix]

It's kind of sad there are still companies out there still using Lotus Notes.  :(

We pretty much have to use it.

[Strazos]

Wow, I just read up on HoAs, am I glad as fuck that we don't have these so much over here.

This shit is just pure evil

Holy Shit, that is heinous. Fuck a HoA.

[Ingmar]

It's kind of sad there are still companies out there still using Lotus Notes.  :(

We pretty much have to use it.

Proprietary Domino apps or something?

In other news, I think I have developed some kind of RSI in my right elbow. This is annoying because I just do not have time to go to the doctor right now at all, I have a file server with a RAID on life support, a crapload of prep work to get streaming online for a company meeting this week, a something-I-guess-I-can't-talk-about to deal with getting announced at said meeting, and all of tomorrow is eaten up with dealing with getting a bunch of new cubes set up for the most annoying engineering manager in the western hemisphere.

But at least my mail is on Exchange. 

[Rasix]

It's kind of sad there are still companies out there still using Lotus Notes.  :(

We pretty much have to use it.

Proprietary Domino apps or something?

Owning the company. 

[Minvaren]

So does it really stand for "I've Been Moved?"   

In other news, Asterisk does just work as a legacy PBX to VOIP gateway, once you learn what settings to change in 18 different config files and file several bug reports.   

[Fraeg]

It's kind of sad there are still companies out there still using Lotus Notes.  :(

We pretty much have to use it.

no choice here at all.



So it is about 7:15 pm and I am leaving work, take the elevator down open the front door and there is Police Line tape blocking me in, and about 12 police cars in the front parking lot and a Mobile Crime Lab bus.  The have taped off our entire front parking lot, and the 6 lane road adjacent to our front parking lot.   How this impacts me is that my car is in said crime scene. 

My conversation with an officer:

Me: hmmm, so that is my car over there and it looks like it is behind the police line.
Officer:  Yes Sir, it is.
Me:  any chance I can get my car so I can drive home
Officer: *shakes head firmly*
Me: oh...any idea when this will all be over
Officer: *shakes head firmly*

Not a huge deal, I drove a work truck from the back parking lot home.  A bit worried as cars parked in the front lot over night tend to get their windows smashed.

[Selby]

So does it really stand for "I've Been Moved?"

Per my sister, yes.  They relocated her 3 times during her 3 years there.  And then they relocated her job to Costa Rica and had her train her replacements before letting her go.

[Rasix]

When I started, it was still pretty prevalent considering they were shuttering the San Jose plant at the time.  A lot of people got some raw deals out of that.   I haven't seen a lot of moves since then and the ones I have were voluntary.  Telecommuting helps.

Most teams, save those that need access to physical machinery, are pretty geographically spread out.

[JWIV]

LOTUS NOTES


 

YES. 

[bhodi]

I had to admin Lotus Notes, briefly. I won't ever work in a place with it again.

[Yegolev]

LOTUS NOTES


 

Agree.

I have used Notes continuously from 1998 to present day.  This year I am also using Outlook on my Real Employer's laptop.  Outlook is like a koala crapped a rainbow into my brain.

Also I am looking into binaural music, otherwise known as digital drug.  So far I can't tell it is working, but more testing required.

[MuffinMan]

From a user standpoint I've never had issues with it. Not that I really ever use it, the company mostly just spams me.

[NiX]

So, I have to attend a wedding reception for a friend whose getting married. I hate this idea of paying what we think the meal costs, they invited me. Such nonsense.

[MuffinMan]

The wedding gift counts as payment, right?

[Nebu]

So, I have to attend a wedding reception for a friend whose getting married.  I hate this idea of paying what we think the meal costs, they invited me. Such nonsense.

You don't have to do anything, you know.  If they're your friend, they will be happy to have you there with no expectation of anything beyond that.  True friends don't keep mental record of how much is spent on whom and when.  

[Samwise]

The wedding gift counts as payment, right?

That's the idea, yes.  At least in certain barbaric cultures that I have been exposed to, the wedding bash is seen as a sort of investment on the part of the bride's family that is recouped by the married couple in the form of expensive gifts that they've registered for. 

When I got married we explicitly told people that (1) they didn't have to get us anything, we were happy just to have them there, (2) if people really wanted to spend money, it would be great if they gave it to a marriage equality charity, and THEN (3) if you really have to fucking buy us something here's a registry with a wide selection of practical items under $20.

[IainC]

I bought my sister an ice-cream maker for her wedding.

I fucking love ice-cream.

[Yegolev]

If you love clean carpets, you could have gotten her a vacuum cleaner.

[NiX]

If I don't get something it would probably become an issue or at least something talked about. It would be compounded by an existing issue of me not going to the bachelor party (didn't confirm I was going either) and the groom's brother thought I would still pay the cost I would have incurred had I gone.

I would have done the registry, but there was nothing under $200.

[Yegolev]

I would have done the registry, but there was nothing under $200.

[Ironwood]

Wow.

[Bunk]

That really would not mesh with my wedding gift $35 guideline.

I've found the better way - take the pictures, they pay you to show up.

[Samwise]

I would have done the registry, but there was nothing under $200.

I guess they're spending about $200 a head on the reception.  Or maybe they're spending less than that but determined to turn a profit?

Unless he's a REALLY good friend and it's worth $200 to you to buy your way into the bride's good graces, I would say just get them a nice card, or a thoughtful but less expensive gift, and accept your new position at the top of her shit list.  (I am assuming this $200 gift bullshit is the work of the bride or some other family member, not the friend.  If it was the friend's doing, I'd probably feign illness, skip the wedding, and re-evaluate the friendship.)

[Ingmar]

If I don't get something it would probably become an issue or at least something talked about. It would be compounded by an existing issue of me not going to the bachelor party (didn't confirm I was going either) and the groom's brother thought I would still pay the cost I would have incurred had I gone.

I would have done the registry, but there was nothing under $200.

Some people keep track of that stuff I guess, but I couldn't tell you who we invited that didn't get us anything (nor do I really care, lord knows I often forget to ever get around to getting people anything). It depends on how OCD the bride and groom are about that sort of thing. Are they "figure out the check to the exact cent everyone owes" sort of people?

Keep in mind, too, that etiquette-wise you have like a year to get them something. (Mind you this is where I run into trouble in terms of forgetting to get something, though - oh I have a year? I'll take care of it later...)

[rattran]

Buy them an initial consultation with a divorce lawyer.

[RhyssaFireheart]

Yeah, I can really only remember a few gifts we got for our wedding now (since it was over 17 years ago) - a quilt from an aunt/uncle (which we still use); a picnic basket setup from another aunt/uncle (because it's taking up space and I keep meaning to get rid of it); one measily set of our good silver that his maternal grandmother got us (even though the woman could have afforded to buy us an entire 12 pc place setting without even blinking); and one half of a lamp set from yet another aunt/uncle (because again, we're still using it).  Anything else we were given - not a clue.

I'm still trying to figure out how the groom's brother figured you were going to pay for a bachelor party you didn't RSVP for and didn't attend.   

I wish we could have forgone the wedding registry since we really didn't need anything.  I'd had my own apartment for a few years already in college and then we lived together for just under a year before getting married.  We really didn't need anything but I wasn't allowed to not have a registry.  So we picked practical stuff that made sense to have.

[Lantyssa]

Nothing less than $200?  That's insane.  I can't imagine having anything that is $200.  These are supposed to be friends and family, not ATMs.

[Ingmar]

Nothing less than $200?  That's insane.  I can't imagine having anything that is $200.  These are supposed to be friends and family, not ATMs.

That's not really super weird, actually. Well NOTHING under $200 is weird, but a lot of normal stuff people put on there was getting towards that neighborhood even 7 years ago when we were putting our list together. Your nicer kitchen appliances and such, a lot of the china place settings, etc.

The other thing is, the cheaper stuff tends to disappear from the list first so if you are shopping late sometimes you end up with nothing left on the list but some $500 mixer.

[Nerf]

We're planning on having our registry filled mostly with kitchen things and useful things that we just haven't felt like buying - wafflemaker, espresso machine, knives, etc.  I've also somehow managed to negotiate having at least one gun on the registry, now I just need to decide which one!

[MuffinMan]

Buy them an initial consultation with a divorce lawyer.

This. I was separated within 8 months of the wedding, would have been a great gift.