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Samwise
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I think so. I have six digits on my hand right now!
I can see how that would be an advantage, Mr. Duck.
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Yegolev
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If we're going by the first album, I'm The Bomb, Improper Dancing, and Dance Commander are all better then either. Have they ever done anything better than I'm The Bomb? It really is ready to go off in your shit.
Once I get around to gathering the set, I'll get back to you. Unless I forget about it. 
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Why am I homeless? Why do all you motherfuckers need homes is the real question. They called it The Prayer, its answer was law Mommy come back 'cause the water's all gone
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Samwise
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Haha, for a split second just now I thought we were being bombed. Then I remembered that SF tests its air raid sirens on Tuesdays at noon. I don't think I've been here for that in almost ten years.
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stray
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Linux still sucks.
But Mac OS X still sucks at setting up what is no problem at all in Linux: a good ole fashioned UNIX environment. Uhhrrgg. I want a little bit of both in my setup. Damnit even the Terminal is borked.
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schild
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Haha, for a split second just now I thought we were being bombed. Then I remembered that SF tests its air raid sirens on Tuesdays at noon. I don't think I've been here for that in almost ten years.
...Every Tuesday?
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Righ
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Yes. Civil Defense workers are busy playing World of Warcraft at other times.
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Trippy
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Linux still sucks.
But Mac OS X still sucks at setting up what is no problem at all in Linux: a good ole fashioned UNIX environment. Uhhrrgg. I want a little bit of both in my setup. Damnit even the Terminal is borked.
Use iTerm.
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stray
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I have it, but it's a badly designed app in it's own right.  But at least not in the term aspect No excuse for Apple for screw something so simple up though. Also, many ports are borked (don't know about fink). I tried installing fish (a shell) and it started installing two behemoths : tex and a whole new implementation of X11.  For a fucking shell. Also, Apple's own X11 is borked, so I appreciate the concern for a better version of it - but jesus. I just wanted a shell. And a term that displayed like 8 fucking colors correctly. ...among other things... /rantoff [edit] On the other hand, I had to go out of my way on linux simply to hide partitions in gnome. it's really quite inexcusable. year after year they can't get simple shit right either. even moreso than anyone. fucking ready for the desktop my ass. goddamn liars, all of them.
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« Last Edit: April 29, 2009, 10:19:40 PM by stray »
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stray
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edit - some things best left unsaid 
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« Last Edit: April 29, 2009, 11:54:27 PM by stray »
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Trippy
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Both Terminal and iTerm display ANSI colors just fine.
fish requires Doxygen which requires TeX and Doxygen has a GUI which requires X11. If you want something better than bash without the ridiculous requirements of fish try zsh.
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stray
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you need to hack terminal with in an input manager to display color ls with custom colors. the default blue is an eyesore. at least on black it is. for example, this guy has a more pleasant scheme. yeah, i'm gonna explore zsh, comes default anyways :)
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Trippy
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iTerm you just double-click on the color you want to change in profiles and pick a new one from the color wheel.
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stray
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yeah, i know! but it's sort of a clunky app Mac-wise  see, this is my main bitch (about a few issues, not just iterm). apple doesn't do unix well, but the foss world doesn't deliver exactly like mac developers either (not always of course.. i mean there are a lot of cool open source cocoa apps don't get me wrong).
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Yegolev
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I think it's funny to want to use a UNIX variant but complain about having to hack-to-customize something. Also it seems your problems stem from reliance on a GUI.
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Why am I homeless? Why do all you motherfuckers need homes is the real question. They called it The Prayer, its answer was law Mommy come back 'cause the water's all gone
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stray
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No, no, it's just that it's all done half-assed. Although I don't care to hack anything really, you're right about that. I like using some UNIX stuff, but sometimes it makes it inconvenient or less than ideal. OS X might have UNIX branding, but that actually takes a major second seat to everything else. The most basic elements just leave something to be desired. The term doesn't display ansi colors correctly by itself, nor can it even do something simple as run fullscreen, and X11 can't run fullscreen either. Hmm, what else... Umm, openoffice can't even be ported correctly. It comes in a giant java wrapper, instead of modular like other operating systems.
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Cyrrex
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These last several posts seem far too useful to be posted in this particular thread. Also because I am fucking clueless as to what you're talking about. This is supposed to be a thread where I understand stuff.
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"...maybe if you cleaned the piss out of the sunny d bottles under your desks and returned em, you could upgrade you vid cards, fucken lusers.." - Grunk
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Yegolev
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These last several posts seem far too useful to be posted in this particular thread.
No way, no one gives a shit about UNIX or linux. Also OpenOffice is a ball of shit and uses Java because it's made by Sun. Luckily it is free, therefore I use it.
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Why am I homeless? Why do all you motherfuckers need homes is the real question. They called it The Prayer, its answer was law Mommy come back 'cause the water's all gone
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stray
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OK, as geeky as I am talking about UNIX and shit, I managed to somehow befriend a Japanese fashion model. I have become privy to the seedy underground of J-Idols. Shit's funnier than a Naomi Campbell freakout. The law of attraction at play here maybe, because I secretly wished for something like this to happen. 
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Yegolev
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OK, as geeky as I am talking about UNIX and shit, I managed to somehow befriend a Japanese fashion model. I have become privy to the seedy underground of J-Idols. Shit's funnier than a Naomi Campbell freakout. The law of attraction at play here maybe, because I secretly wished for something like this to happen.  CYRREX, I BLAME YOU!
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Why am I homeless? Why do all you motherfuckers need homes is the real question. They called it The Prayer, its answer was law Mommy come back 'cause the water's all gone
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Hindenburg
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seedy underground of J-Idols. does not compute.
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"Who uses Outlook anyway? People who get what they deserve, that's who." - Ard.
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Cyrrex
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Yeah, well, apparently all you have to do is wish for hot japanese models to show up on your doorstep and then POOF! They just fucking show up.
I now have the rest of my day planned.
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"...maybe if you cleaned the piss out of the sunny d bottles under your desks and returned em, you could upgrade you vid cards, fucken lusers.." - Grunk
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stray
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Actually, it's quite depressing.
Now, back to UNIX...
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Yegolev
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Now, back to UNIX...
I thought you were talking about OSX?
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Why am I homeless? Why do all you motherfuckers need homes is the real question. They called it The Prayer, its answer was law Mommy come back 'cause the water's all gone
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stray
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zing ;) yeah, i guess that's my point.
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Righ
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Most of your problems stem from your lack of experience with BSD, not because Apple has "done Unix wrong". You're just a System V zealot or poisoned by the same water through Linux. 
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The camera adds a thousand barrels. - Steven Colbert
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stray
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yes, probably been corrupted by linux. hmm.. funny tho, my first experience was with bsd/os. then it was slackware (which was at the very least inspired by bsd, unlike redhat) and then freebsd.
actually, you're wrong. what am i saying. :P certain things are borked, i tell ya!
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Yegolev
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Color ls output is for prima-donnas. 
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Why am I homeless? Why do all you motherfuckers need homes is the real question. They called it The Prayer, its answer was law Mommy come back 'cause the water's all gone
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stray
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On a slightly related note, I need to change my last name. This UNIX shit doesn't become me.
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Yegolev
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Wozniak? 
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Why am I homeless? Why do all you motherfuckers need homes is the real question. They called it The Prayer, its answer was law Mommy come back 'cause the water's all gone
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Signe
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None of this makes any sense!
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My Sig Image: hath rid itself of this mortal coil.
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Merusk
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On a useless note to you all, but not to me, I have applied to UC to be part of their accelerated engineering program. If accepted I will get a Bachelors in Electrial Engineering and a Masters in Computer Engineering sometime in the next 5 years. Mech. Engineering was full-up for years.. go figure, electrical seems more fun to me. When I did my FASFA last year when I talked about this actually having a job hurt me to a significant degree. Being unemployed means my expected contribution is only $6k a year. How odd. Here's hoping I write an awesome enough essay to get accepted despite my lackluster transcripts.
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Cyrrex
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Good luck with that. Do be sure to spell Electrical correctly every time you use it in your essay.  Sorry. Seriously, though, good luck.
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"...maybe if you cleaned the piss out of the sunny d bottles under your desks and returned em, you could upgrade you vid cards, fucken lusers.." - Grunk
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stray
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Sweet! Good luck :)
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Merusk
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Fast typing for interents postings alway sequal spelling fail. 
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The past cannot be changed. The future is yet within your power.
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Cyrrex
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Fast typing for interents postings alway sequal spelling fail.  You keep supplying the great irony 
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"...maybe if you cleaned the piss out of the sunny d bottles under your desks and returned em, you could upgrade you vid cards, fucken lusers.." - Grunk
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