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Reply #39165 on: November 18, 2019, 05:55:42 PM

Plus it helps with malaria!

I had not heard this one before and as an avid G&T drinker I was curious so looked it up, the article I read stated you would need to drink 67 liters of tonic water in order to have enough quinine in your system to be effective against malaria.

Challenge accepted.

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Reply #39166 on: November 19, 2019, 02:25:31 AM

Monkey 47, Schwarzwald dry gin is really good. It's probably my favourite gin.

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Reply #39167 on: November 19, 2019, 11:31:26 AM

Plus it helps with malaria!

I had not heard this one before and as an avid G&T drinker I was curious so looked it up, the article I read stated you would need to drink 67 liters of tonic water in order to have enough quinine in your system to be effective against malaria.

Challenge accepted.

Don't forget to add the appropriate amount of gin, 45 liters maybe?
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Reply #39168 on: November 19, 2019, 11:41:57 AM

One of my cats has kept me up for 4 straight nights. I've run out of ideas on how to deal with this little fucker. I think he's just cracked.

Giving him up would be difficult considering we've had him 4 years, and his brother is our other cat. He's a friendly cat and loves people, but he just will not stop yowling at night.

Also, if I'm a bit weird today: sleep depravation is amazing. I feel drunk, tired, and beat up all at once.

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Reply #39169 on: November 19, 2019, 03:01:53 PM

Watch some Jackson Galaxy reruns  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

There's usually something the cat is yowling at/because of, an outdoor cat visiting the yard or something.

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Reply #39170 on: November 19, 2019, 06:30:17 PM

One of the amazing/bad things about having a kid is that you discover that extended sleep deprivation is super-bad for you and alters everything about your basic emotional rest state. I sobbed in front of some hospital clerk because we had to have our kid brought back due to jaundice. It's routine; I would normally have been talking about percentages of occurance etc. with the admitting nurse and instead I was sobbing and talking about how I was so worried, etc., while being barely able to read anything or even walk a straight line, after only a week and a half of being semi-awake for 24 hours with short stints of sleep. I mean, you start to see shit and not be able at all to maintain normal emotional equilibrium, etc.
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Reply #39171 on: November 19, 2019, 09:33:00 PM

If you have a partner, start the night early, take shifts. 5 hours of uninterrupted rest each is better than 8 hours of responding to wailing. It means a few months of never getting to actually sleep in the same bed, but it will do wonders for your sanity.

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Reply #39172 on: November 26, 2019, 09:26:47 PM

OK, correct me here if I'm being crazy: someone that got a signing bonus, $25k in moving/housing assistance, and likely a salary that dwarfs mine shouldn't still get lumped with the "children" for Christmas gifts. Why do I need to give this person an Amazon gift card?


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Reply #39173 on: November 26, 2019, 09:49:36 PM

Um, you 100% shouldn't get that person shit.

I'm apparently a scrooge. I only get my mother and GF gifts out of a sense of obligation. I'm perfectly happy to receive nothing in exchange for giving nothing.

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Reply #39174 on: November 26, 2019, 11:33:54 PM

OK, correct me here if I'm being crazy: someone that got a signing bonus, $25k in moving/housing assistance, and likely a salary that dwarfs mine shouldn't still get lumped with the "children" for Christmas gifts. Why do I need to give this person an Amazon gift card?

Who is that someone in relation to you?
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Reply #39175 on: November 26, 2019, 11:43:34 PM

My guess is a niece/nephew situation.

My policy on such things is whatever it takes to keep the organizing Mother/Mother in Law off my back so I can just drink wine all day on X-mas.

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Reply #39176 on: November 27, 2019, 12:00:55 AM

Nephew. He's an adult, hell, we're almost all adults save my kid. But seriously, they always brag about how great his job is and how much he makes now.  Umm, ok, then buy your own stuff? Like I'm still getting his brother (high school senior) something.

It just seems dumb on principle.

 

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Reply #39177 on: November 27, 2019, 07:49:38 AM

I'm with you on principle Rasix, but in practice Ab has the right of it. Better to spend $20 than hear shit all Christmas day.

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Reply #39178 on: November 27, 2019, 08:36:37 AM

I gave the nieces/nephews gifts until they were 18 and then it was cut off.  And by the end, I was mostly doing it out of my own sense of obligation because it's not like they were going out of their way to acknowledge the gifts.  Granted, it wasn't the most exciting thing (I picked a themed Xmas ornament for each kid so that they'd have a nice start on gifted ornaments when they moved out/got their own place) but I wanted to do something since I rarely got to see folks.

Still 18 and no older.  Cut them off!

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Reply #39179 on: November 27, 2019, 08:40:41 AM

Give him a copy of Art of the Deal for xmas.

Let it all burn.

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Reply #39180 on: November 27, 2019, 09:04:34 AM

Why do I need to give this person an Amazon gift card?

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Reply #39181 on: November 27, 2019, 10:29:58 AM

There's always the bag of dicks option.

It is, technically, a gift  Ohhhhh, I see.

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Reply #39182 on: November 28, 2019, 09:36:30 AM

OK, correct me here if I'm being crazy: someone that got a signing bonus, $25k in moving/housing assistance, and likely a salary that dwarfs mine shouldn't still get lumped with the "children" for Christmas gifts. Why do I need to give this person an Amazon gift card?

Does this person get you a gift each year?  If not, they have communicated that they're not into holiday gift exchanges, and freed you from obligation.

I started giving Christmas gifts to my aunts and uncles (all 7 of them) when I was... nine years old, maybe?  I mean, when I was a kid it was shitty arts and crafts ornaments I made myself, but it got the habit started early, and I'd say the gifts had become non-shitty by the time I was in high school.  If someone goes a few years without giving me anything (which occasionally happens as people decide they don't have the energy to get gifts for the whole extended family), I might quietly drop them from my list too.  My cousins get added to the gift list as they're born, but by the time they're teenagers if they aren't giving me something themselves and are instead just putting their name on the gift that comes from their parents, I consider it free license to just do the same with the gift I give their parents.

I try to never do gift cards; I just take a guess at what someone might like (usually it's a book I like that I'm pretty sure they haven't read) and see what lands.  If you don't have enough of a relationship with someone to get them something more personal than a gift card, I'd say that's also a good clue that they don't need to be on your list.  Unless they also get you a gift card, in which case sure, give them a gift card of equal value to make it a perfect net zero.

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Reply #39183 on: November 28, 2019, 12:49:11 PM

Several of my friends have been regifting the same $50 Borders gift card for the last 6 or 7 years. I suspect I may be the recipient this year. There was a $20 Blockbuster card doing the same rounds, but it seems to have been lost.
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Reply #39184 on: November 28, 2019, 09:31:27 PM

Does this person get you a gift each year?  If not, they have communicated that they're not into holiday gift exchanges, and freed you from obligation.

This person has never given me anything. Like ever. This kid has been pretty damn sheltered all his life.

edit: I've also done a good deal for him professionally, including job shadowing and submitting resumes to hiring managers in different locales.

That's all besides the point. My objection was simple: he's an adult and it's probably a decent opportunity for him to be one. If not now, when?

Anyhow, I said I'd get him something, which was still met with hostility.  Ohhhhh, I see. To be less flippant, I actually have gotten him non-giftcard gifts the last 2 years. He collects Nintendo stuff, and I usually have something laying around.


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Reply #39185 on: November 28, 2019, 10:40:21 PM

Buy them a book with a subtle context and quit worrying about it.

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Reply #39186 on: November 28, 2019, 10:57:37 PM

Buy them a book with a subtle context and quit worrying about it.
Fuck subtle.

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Reply #39187 on: November 30, 2019, 04:45:31 AM

Yeah, you are being too nice / worry too much here.

Paelos' suggestion is good - buy him a book with subtle context. Something that makes him grow as person.  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

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Reply #39188 on: November 30, 2019, 11:56:25 AM

Ya'll have some twisted views on competitive gift giving, that said for Christmas I go out of my way (or more accurately, since I am 1500 miles away, I won't go out of my way) to avoid any family beyond my wife and daughter.   Furthermore If I am not spending xmas with you I probably am not getting you or your kids a gift and sincerely hope you return the favor.
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Reply #39189 on: December 03, 2019, 08:00:33 AM

I'm almost 40 so I just ask for books and clothes now. Anything more than that people generally screw up or don't want to buy.

I honestly don't want more stuff I can't consume, wear, or sell on ebay after I'm done with it easily.

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Reply #39190 on: December 03, 2019, 08:55:11 AM

I ask for steam gift cards from _every_ family member. Except my mom. We're Jewish so I ask for what I actually want. Last year was stair runners.
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Reply #39191 on: December 03, 2019, 10:49:06 AM

I really don't get a lot every year, and that's just fine with me. I'll get something nice from my in-laws (specific video game or needed clothing item), something from my wife (that has usually been picked out long before Christmas), and something from the yearly gift exchange. I'd be fine with nothing. I'm an adult; I can buy something if I want it. As evident here, I don't get really sentimental about gift giving.

BTW, the nephews are just asking for Nintendo eShop cards. That's easy and my sister doesn't seem to be in a shit mood, so no harm no foul. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Reply #39192 on: December 03, 2019, 10:40:17 PM

I'm an adult; I can buy something if I want it.

This is why the concept of asking for presents or gift cards will never make sense to me.  It turns the whole thing into essentially a cash transfer, which at least makes some sense when one of the parties involved is a child and it's a generational transfer of wealth, but two adults exchanging $50 bills is a no-op.

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Reply #39193 on: December 04, 2019, 12:13:06 AM

I'm an adult; I can buy something if I want it.

This is why the concept of asking for presents or gift cards will never make sense to me.  It turns the whole thing into essentially a cash transfer, which at least makes some sense when one of the parties involved is a child and it's a generational transfer of wealth, but two adults exchanging $50 bills is a no-op.

I have a handful of gifts I buy for people who I see irl enough and I know I can get something they like.

Typically it's art.

Typically it's very nice.

Sometimes it's not great (because good art at a good price is hard to get, queue womp womp trombone).

This years gifts are off the fucking chart though.
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Reply #39194 on: December 04, 2019, 07:28:12 AM

If you know anyone into representational art, Patrick Jones has had a bunch of his sketches up on IXGallery for a while now, dirt cheap. I have a nice little portrait from that batch. Most of the nudes are gone, ofc.

I have one of his nudes on newsprint and it's pretty cool having one of the sketches that's in one of his art instruction books, so double bonus if you know someone who has those books.

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Reply #39195 on: December 05, 2019, 01:56:10 PM

I'm an adult; I can buy something if I want it.

This is why the concept of asking for presents or gift cards will never make sense to me.  It turns the whole thing into essentially a cash transfer, which at least makes some sense when one of the parties involved is a child and it's a generational transfer of wealth, but two adults exchanging $50 bills is a no-op.

I'm of the same mind. However it is a tradition that I have to participate in. It is super irritating to be told someone has to get a gift for me so say what I want, then find out the thing I want is too expensive for the rich old lady to buy me. Then I ask for underwear.

It's all a farce.

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Reply #39196 on: December 05, 2019, 03:33:03 PM

I'm an adult; I can buy something if I want it.

This is why the concept of asking for presents or gift cards will never make sense to me.  It turns the whole thing into essentially a cash transfer, which at least makes some sense when one of the parties involved is a child and it's a generational transfer of wealth, but two adults exchanging $50 bills is a no-op.

I'm of the same mind. However it is a tradition that I have to participate in. It is super irritating to be told someone has to get a gift for me so say what I want, then find out the thing I want is too expensive for the rich old lady to buy me. Then I ask for underwear.

It's all a farce.

I have exactly one aunt that I have to do this for, and my system is now that starting in November, if I'm thinking about buying myself something that costs less than $50, it goes on my Amazon wishlist that I maintain just for her.  The day after Christmas I look at the list and buy myself everything she didn't get me.

Most of my family is getting craft whiskey this year, just like last year.  I went to the distillery last night to do my shopping and found out that their license only allows them to sell me three bottles at a time, so I'm going to have to make several trips over the next couple of weeks.   DRILLING AND MANLINESS

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Reply #39197 on: December 06, 2019, 06:25:01 AM

Yeah, I try to emphasize to my family that I'm an adult who has no children, makes a good salary, and doesn't even pay any rent or utilities.  Thus, the moment something even crosses my mind that I might want it, I've already ordered it.  But they all still feel the need to buy me things, so I just make a random list of shit on Amazon to order for me.  Curious to see if anybody gets me the five pound bag of just strawberry Starbursts.

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Reply #39198 on: December 10, 2019, 09:13:13 AM

So apparently retail chains are losing their minds this year. One site has been sending me 7 emails a day, most are in the 3-5/day range over the 'pre-black friday' period. This has been great because I've unsubbed from dozens of lists already.

Btw, my local booze store stopped carrying Laphroaig (I asked them to restock it so I don't have to drive 10 minutes away to get it, heh). So I picked up the Ardberg, which is a decent enough substitute. So thanks for that!

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