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Reply #28420 on: June 11, 2014, 06:22:27 AM

See, Ironwood gets the mindset of my employers.

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Reply #28421 on: June 11, 2014, 06:50:35 AM

Are those limits per item or per order?

Because an even remotely decent ISV certified workstation is going to cost you well over 1K without AutoCAD, etc.

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Reply #28422 on: June 11, 2014, 07:05:21 AM

I get the mindset, since it's close to my wife's company/family.  I give her the same shit.  They do have a local guy.  His one advantage over my wife is that he has the time to fix the problems.  My wife is smarter than him but she has a real job with bid deadlines, as well as a ten-year-old to be a mommy for.

Lately when she complains to me, I say I'll convert her office to linux in the cloud.

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Reply #28423 on: June 11, 2014, 07:29:31 AM

 Head scratch

Is this where we're supposed to call the cops to report domestic abuse ?

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Reply #28424 on: June 11, 2014, 07:41:22 AM

It's surprisingly hard trying to figure out what to wear to an in-urnment at Arlington National Cemetery.

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Reply #28425 on: June 11, 2014, 07:46:03 AM

Are those limits per item or per order?

Because an even remotely decent ISV certified workstation is going to cost you well over 1K without AutoCAD, etc.

Yes per order and yep, workstations need accounting approval for each new user.  Which is OK because the CEO has to approve the hire in the first place.

We use floating licenses for AutoCAD which are separate negotiations and don't impact the cost there. I get to do all the talking to sales reps and determine how many seats can cover us but I still need sign-off on the purchase order once we have the contract negotiated.

It's surprisingly hard trying to figure out what to wear to an in-urnment at Arlington National Cemetery.


Same as to any other funeral.

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Reply #28426 on: June 11, 2014, 07:51:12 AM

Seriously ?

Black.  Smart.  Tie for a bloke.

It's not hard at all.

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Reply #28427 on: June 11, 2014, 07:59:20 AM

Active duty military would typically wear a dress uniform to a funeral at Arlington (or any national cemetery) but otherwise you would wear the stereotypical black.

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Reply #28428 on: June 11, 2014, 08:04:13 AM

Well, husband and his brother are wearing black pants and button down shirts, this is about all I know.  I'd agree on the full funeral attire except that we already had the memorial service back in December when my FiL died.  This is just installing? inserting? placing? his urn into the niche at Arlington.  Not that it's not significant, and some other family members and friends of my FiL are coming, but the way these are run, it's all of a 20 minute ceremony (and they keep to the timeline due to the number of these they have per day).  I'll still dress more soberly, of course, but still hard to decide what to wear.

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Reply #28429 on: June 11, 2014, 08:08:44 AM

Doesn't need to be the full bhuna, but a nice black skirt/troos and jacket with a shirt.

Job done.

I wouldn't worry too much by the sounds of it.

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Reply #28430 on: June 11, 2014, 08:13:25 AM

Yeah, that's what I'm figuring.  It's not going to be about the daughters-in-law anyhow; it'll be more about my MiL, my husband and his brother, as it should be.

Looking forward to the trip even if it's going to be a quickie.  We leave this Saturday, the service is Monday morning, we fly home on Tuesday.  The bonus is that the husband finagled first-class for us each way.  And we'll have the remainder of Saturday after we arrive and most of Sunday (before the MiL, BiL and his family arrive) to check out DC and the Arlington area.

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Reply #28431 on: June 11, 2014, 09:25:23 AM

If you end up in old town Alexandria, eat at King Street Blues. You won't regret it.

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Reply #28432 on: June 11, 2014, 10:07:54 AM

Well, husband and his brother are wearing black pants and button down shirts, this is about all I know.  I'd agree on the full funeral attire except that we already had the memorial service back in December when my FiL died.  This is just installing? inserting? placing? his urn into the niche at Arlington.  Not that it's not significant, and some other family members and friends of my FiL are coming, but the way these are run, it's all of a 20 minute ceremony (and they keep to the timeline due to the number of these they have per day).  I'll still dress more soberly, of course, but still hard to decide what to wear.

Yes, but it's still a funeral and you'll be around others who are visiting their recently deceased. The current graves and memorials aren't among the 'tourist' areas of the Civil War Graveyard, Eternal Flame and Lee Estate.

My father isn't in an urn but a plot in Arlington and it had every bit of the solemnity of the memorial. Events are carried out with precision, but it's still very somber.

Do not miss the Smithsonian, though I take that as a given. National Archives and Ford theater require you lining up at a ridiculously early hour to get in.

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Reply #28433 on: June 11, 2014, 10:37:20 AM

Thanks, guys.  I'll see were we end up on our traveling around.  Not sure we'll have a lot of time for the bigger places though.  We had a thought of going to the Washington Memorial but the tickets for that were probably sold out before it reopened again, plus waiting in line for hours to go up isn't my idea of fun, no matter how awesome the view must be.

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Reply #28434 on: June 11, 2014, 10:59:46 AM

In a somewhat tangental vein, last week was spent in Winston-Salem, Williamsburg, Jimmytown, and Staunton. I learned a lot.

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Reply #28435 on: June 11, 2014, 01:00:05 PM

You have to buy tickets to see the Washington Memorial?  I had no idea.  It seems odd to me.

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Reply #28436 on: June 11, 2014, 01:48:14 PM

If you end up in old town Alexandria, eat at King Street Blues. You won't regret it.

I work near there and think I just made dinner plans.  Thanks!
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Reply #28437 on: June 11, 2014, 04:22:41 PM

You have to buy tickets to see the Washington Memorial?  I had no idea.  It seems odd to me.
You should cheat and look at it anyways.  Just in sidelong glances though.

Edit: Wait memorial or monument?  I don't know what the Washington memorial would be and google redirects all that to monument.
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Reply #28438 on: June 11, 2014, 06:37:53 PM

I might have turned a monument into a memorial.  I thought it was just a thing to see, not pay for.  Who owns it, anyway?

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Reply #28439 on: June 11, 2014, 11:13:16 PM

You want to see it, you can just stroll up the national mall and look all you like.  You want to go up in it, see the top of the tower/oblisk, you need a ticket.  And there's a huge backlog because it's been closed for repairs for a couple of years.

My guess is that it's owned by the National Park Service, but that's a guess and I've had too much wine to bother with google.

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Reply #28440 on: June 12, 2014, 04:38:41 AM

It is owned by the National Park Service, yes. The tickets may also be free (I too am too lazy to google), a lot of attractions in D.C. that are free entry but have super long lines will end up having free tickets required to enter. The Smithsonian required tickets to enter the American Indian Museum for several months after it opened and the National Archives at times has required tickets to view the Declaration of Independence, for example.

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Reply #28441 on: June 12, 2014, 10:02:33 AM

The American Indian Museum is all about the IT industry, right?

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Reply #28442 on: June 12, 2014, 11:50:05 AM

Thanks for info, lazy people.  It's Lincoln who has a memorial, no?  Do all these places have clean personal facilities?  I have to see Washington DC before I end up moving someplace strange which I might do in the next few months.  Maybe New Mexico.  I actually have a friend there, even!  My sister is dying to move back there but won't go unless I go, too.  I figure I'd go until she at least gets her stuff set up.  I'm thinking she's going to concentrate on sculpture more than the illustrating now.  It's about time... she's an awesome artist.  I loved NM when I was about 14 up until I turned 21, then I got bored with it.  Maybe it'll feel new again. 

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Reply #28443 on: June 12, 2014, 12:41:33 PM

If it's like it was when we lived there, tickets were free, but the homeless guy who got in line at 6am would like to be paid for them.

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Reply #28444 on: June 12, 2014, 03:25:59 PM

The American Way.

I would want to see DC with someone who knew the place, not on my own.

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Reply #28445 on: June 12, 2014, 04:46:46 PM

The American Indian Museum is all about the IT industry, right?
And purchasing tickets is called doing the needful.
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Reply #28446 on: June 12, 2014, 06:04:37 PM

STOP

FULL STOP

Did I tell you about Doing the Needful or is that a goddamn weird Indian thing they say? My wife gets that shit via India and she has absolutely no fucking idea what it means. I need a turbandictionary.com. (i'm proud of this one)
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Reply #28448 on: June 12, 2014, 07:27:26 PM

I need a turbandictionary.com. (i'm proud of this one)

I hope you own that.  Kindly do the needful.

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Reply #28449 on: June 13, 2014, 05:55:55 AM

I am totally going to jump on this stereotyping train and chime in that they also seem love just love talking on their mobile phones while pissing in a public urinal.  I think I even once heard an Indian guy say "please do the needful" into his phone WHILE pissing in the urinal.

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Reply #28450 on: June 13, 2014, 08:36:34 AM

STOP

FULL STOP

Did I tell you about Doing the Needful or is that a goddamn weird Indian thing they say? My wife gets that shit via India and she has absolutely no fucking idea what it means. I need a turbandictionary.com. (i'm proud of this one)

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Reply #28451 on: June 13, 2014, 08:42:01 AM

One of my docs in the UK used to say that.  She was lovely.  And I think the full stop comes after the stop, not below it.  You don't have to spell it out, either.  I want a turbandictionary.com, too. 

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Reply #28452 on: June 13, 2014, 11:23:52 AM

The phrase is falling out of fashion for likely multiple reasons.  I'd like to keep it alive without being racist.

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Reply #28453 on: June 13, 2014, 11:35:03 AM

Odd, I've never heard that phrase and I've lived in Indian families' basements. About a quarter of my staff is Indian/Fijian/Pakistani.

Rhyssa, if you're going to be in DC, just set aside time for the Smithsonian. I had a five hour window while attending a trade show in DC, and a co-worker and I did all three buildings of the Smithsonian in four hours. It was ridiculous to do at that pace, but still totally worth it.

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Reply #28454 on: June 13, 2014, 01:27:55 PM

I will tour guide for free beer.  The tour will mainly consist of my favorite bars, but I suppose we can do monuments and shit as well.  And I'll include a trip to Ben's Chili Bowl gratis.
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