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Reply #21805 on: October 04, 2012, 09:28:02 AM

Microsoft Lync? I would assume we are.

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Reply #21806 on: October 04, 2012, 10:06:44 AM

The IM program?  You need to be certified in that? How bizarre.

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Reply #21807 on: October 04, 2012, 10:11:14 AM

There were a couple long-term O&G contracts around Houston just for Lync and Activesync recently.

...reminds me of all those MS Access jobs making far more than I have as a sysadmin type...   swamp poop


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Reply #21808 on: October 04, 2012, 10:32:31 AM

I'll file that in the same bucket as "Companies still use AIX?" Ohhhhh, I see.

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Reply #21809 on: October 04, 2012, 10:42:07 AM

You ever have one of those days where you know you should just put the headphones on and crank out some code but instead you find 'something' else to do pretty much all day?

Yeah, that's today.

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Reply #21810 on: October 04, 2012, 10:58:03 AM

All the time.

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Reply #21811 on: October 04, 2012, 12:09:26 PM

We do have a system that has been legacy for about a year running on OpenVMS that they keep on because they know that as soon as they turn it off someone will ask for something off of it. They doubt it will power back on if it goes down as the server it is on is an Alpha box that predates Compaq buying out DEC.
Damn.  We got rid of most of those in the early aughts, and they were ancient then.

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Reply #21812 on: October 04, 2012, 12:55:48 PM

I could see going to Lync server training, but the client is fucking simple to use overall.

We use Lync for voice/IM and I can say without a doubt they did not implement it very well mainly due to poor planning and lack of knowledgable people (mainly in numbers of people) running it.

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Reply #21813 on: October 04, 2012, 02:49:23 PM

I could see going to Lync server training...


This - The client training takes all of 5 minutes.

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Reply #21814 on: October 04, 2012, 05:22:23 PM

Now I'm wondering if Lync is very complex or very unstable.  I had assumed it was Exchange that was to blame for the occasional connection issues.

Since you've been to training, can you tell me why after getting a new laptop that my Outlook addresses no longer show the Lync status, and doesn't allow me to IM people from a right-click on their name in Outlook?  I might just reinstall the client but it's a pretty minor deal.

Speaking of training, I witnessed an overview of Redhat clustering. why so serious?

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Reply #21815 on: October 04, 2012, 05:30:20 PM

Sounds like the Lync / Outlook connector is not working properly.

Can't remember where the option is in the menus but you should be able to check the settings and re verify your credentials fir it (the connector doesn't just take AD credentials at least in our setup at the University).

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Reply #21816 on: October 04, 2012, 05:45:45 PM

Think we're using ye olde userid/passwd, but these days I don't know what is and isn't tied to AD.  It's even in AIX.  I don't find it in either options menu, but I'll check again.

I'm more worried that I'll find out someone wants to implement a RHEL cluster somewhere.

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Reply #21817 on: October 05, 2012, 07:37:56 AM

I am pretty unimpressed with RHEL in general cluster or not.  When it prompts you for the root password to change the date and time then someone has taken their security model a bit too far.
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Reply #21818 on: October 05, 2012, 07:39:00 AM

Taking security models too far is the next phase of corp IT.  Best to get on that bandwagon now.

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Reply #21819 on: October 05, 2012, 07:46:41 AM

lol yeah cause pimping a model that encourages you to share out root access with everyone or be overloaded with trivial tasks = success.  You can totally tell this is an enterprise OS though because while I need escalated privileges to change the time from within the OS, I can boot to windows and back and it magically shifts the time for me by my GMT differential.
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Reply #21820 on: October 05, 2012, 07:48:14 AM

I don't want to come across as defending any particular linux distro as a solid enterprise OS.

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Reply #21821 on: October 05, 2012, 08:16:03 AM

I don't want to come across as defending any particular linux distro as a solid enterprise OS.

Aren't there only like 3 that even try to brand themselves that way (SLES, RHEL and now Oracle  ACK!)?  And when choosing between those 3 I can totally understand abstaining from any sort of endorsement,
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Reply #21822 on: October 05, 2012, 08:51:06 AM

I am pretty unimpressed with RHEL in general cluster or not.  When it prompts you for the root password to change the date and time then someone has taken their security model a bit too far.
Sorry, but you're tilting at the wrong windmill. Time/date is completely fundamental to any computer system and should absolutely require root access. Virtually everything security related hangs on correct date and time - everything from kerberos tickets to audit logs. Not to mention cluster syncing.

Plus, you really shouldn't need to change the date and time ad-hoc, ever. You set it once and keep it up to date with NTP.
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Reply #21823 on: October 05, 2012, 08:58:54 AM

What the hell would you need Lync training for anyway ?  It's not the most complicated bit of kit in the world.


If your company wants to send you for training in underwater basket weaving, I say go.  They'll give you a stupid piece of paper with a stamp on it and you shove it in your CV and next time you're looking for work your salary goes up a notch.  The skin only comes off their nose.  Or something.

This. Exactly this.

Lync is HUGE right now, pretty much all the oil and gas companies are just putting it in now and not enough people are "certified" in it.

Lync is fuck easy and anyone who hires some asshole on the strength of the fucking powerpoint presentation that Microsoft do for it and call 'training' needs to have skin flayed off soles of feet and made to run in the hot fucking sand.

Also, if you want Lync, get it for 365 and save yourself a cuntload of fucking stupid server hassle when it finally does break for you, as it will.  Because it's easy, but the server version is fairly shite.

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Reply #21824 on: October 05, 2012, 09:13:55 AM

It's worth checking out the apple.com website today.  

Seems kindof odd that Jobs has been dead for a year already.  Time flies when you have small children. 
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Reply #21825 on: October 05, 2012, 09:15:35 AM

Steve Jobs.  Still Dead.

 Ohhhhh, I see.

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Reply #21826 on: October 05, 2012, 09:49:19 AM

Steve Jobs.  Still Dead.

 Ohhhhh, I see.

I've played Fallout New Vegas.  He's still kicking somewhere in somebody's basement. 
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Reply #21827 on: October 06, 2012, 12:26:02 AM

Steve Jobs.  Still Dead.

 Ohhhhh, I see.

Well that explains why my permanent unlock is still awaiting action on their unlock server. 

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murdoc
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Reply #21828 on: October 06, 2012, 09:59:03 AM

What the hell would you need Lync training for anyway ?  It's not the most complicated bit of kit in the world.


If your company wants to send you for training in underwater basket weaving, I say go.  They'll give you a stupid piece of paper with a stamp on it and you shove it in your CV and next time you're looking for work your salary goes up a notch.  The skin only comes off their nose.  Or something.

This. Exactly this.

Lync is HUGE right now, pretty much all the oil and gas companies are just putting it in now and not enough people are "certified" in it.

Lync is fuck easy and anyone who hires some asshole on the strength of the fucking powerpoint presentation that Microsoft do for it and call 'training' needs to have skin flayed off soles of feet and made to run in the hot fucking sand.

Also, if you want Lync, get it for 365 and save yourself a cuntload of fucking stupid server hassle when it finally does break for you, as it will.  Because it's easy, but the server version is fairly shite.


I put in the server version and other than issues with our network guy having trouble with some things it was dead simple.

We're just a company of 500 people so it's not really working too hard to handle the usage.

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Reply #21829 on: October 06, 2012, 10:26:33 AM

 Heart  I really LOVE scrubbing things.  Does anyone else love scrubbing things?  Pots, pans, sinks, tubs, anything.  Give me some detergent, steel wool or a scrub brush and something dirty and I'm a happy girl.  The harder I scrub, the happier I get.  I don't even feel it when my hands start chaffing and bleeding, I'm just too fucking happy.  So why don't you all send me your dirty bits and I'll scrub the motherfucking fuck out of them until they shine like new... or someone bleeds.  Either way, I'll be a happy scrubber.   Heart

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Reply #21830 on: October 06, 2012, 10:34:53 AM

Why yes, I DO have some bits that could use a good scrubbing.

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Reply #21831 on: October 06, 2012, 11:00:33 AM

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Reply #21832 on: October 06, 2012, 12:29:05 PM

Heart  I really LOVE scrubbing things.  Does anyone else love scrubbing things?  Pots, pans, sinks, tubs, anything.  Give me some detergent, steel wool or a scrub brush and something dirty and I'm a happy girl.  The harder I scrub, the happier I get.  I don't even feel it when my hands start chaffing and bleeding, I'm just too fucking happy.  So why don't you all send me your dirty bits and I'll scrub the motherfucking fuck out of them until they shine like new... or someone bleeds.  Either way, I'll be a happy scrubber.   Heart
Why couldn't I have seen this before I cleaned the bathroom today.  Especially that damn tile shower.  Not the nicer 1'x1' or bigger sort of tiles either.  Those crappy white 6"x6" fuckers that seem to pull mildew and mold to them like black holes.  Plus I couldn't find my damn scrub brush and had to use a crappy scrubby sponge.  Shaking fist

Anyways - WTF, hospital!  Last year after I had my surgery, I was on Lovenox injections and while cleaning, came across the filled red biohazard box with all the spent injectors.  Called the local hospital to ask how to dispose of them properly, thinking that they would take them perhaps.  Nope, the suggested method of disposal is to put in a coffee can (or other metal can object, I'm guessing), wrap tightly and completely with duct tape and then... toss in the trash.  Really now?  swamp poop

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Reply #21833 on: October 06, 2012, 01:08:02 PM

Call your pharmacy and see if they know of a place you can drop off used needles from medications. I am sure they would know with the whole diabetics needing to dispose of needles thing.

Pretty sure it is illegal to just dump biohazard waste into the normal trash, even sealed in a can.

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Reply #21834 on: October 07, 2012, 09:08:45 AM

I'll try the pharmacy again, but when I asked last year right after I finished taking all the injections (a month of poking myself with a needle - ugh!) they said they didn't take them and offered no options either.  Could have just been the woman I asked though, she seemed a bit put out that I even asked.

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Reply #21835 on: October 07, 2012, 03:26:58 PM

If the pharmacy isn't any help I'd try your GP's office before the hospital.  The way healthcare and admin is managed these days I'd call Hospitals fairly useless for anything informational.  I doubt you got through to a nurse and were probably talking to someone who was just a general receptionist and could have done the job in any old office.

EPA has a .pdf for proper disposal. http://www.epa.gov/osw/education/pdfs/han-care.pdf

Though on review of the .pdf the hospital did say what the EPA flyer says. Toss 'em in a heavy duty container, tape it and toss it.
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Reply #21836 on: October 07, 2012, 09:01:25 PM

I recommend googling Jon Snow. For the automated "what Google knows about him" bit on the right-hand side.
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Reply #21837 on: October 07, 2012, 09:45:02 PM

I recommend googling Jon Snow. For the automated "what Google knows about him" bit on the right-hand side.

Looks good for 65.
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Reply #21838 on: October 07, 2012, 11:40:16 PM

(a month of poking myself with a needle - ugh!)
When I had surgery 3 years ago I did use those in public a few times, just to fuck with people. Last time I tried that, someone/something distracted me whily I had the tiny needle stuck in my stomach, I moved my hand just a little bit too much and  when I finaly came home I looked like I had slaughtered someone. Fun times.  awesome, for real

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Reply #21839 on: October 08, 2012, 02:09:03 AM

I had that same problem with disposal.  There was one, and I think it was in New Jersey, that you could buy the unit with a box to send it somewhere for disposal.  Those boxes cost a fucking fortune.  In PA, the chemist said just what they said to you.  Close it, wrap it tight in duct tape and throw it in the bin.  Landfills are a lot more dangerous than anyone thinks.  Maybe even as dangerous as a beach!

I think that it depends on if there is a Sharps container disposal service or a hospital that takes them in your area.  In PA, there isn't one so you throw the in the garbage.  Strangely, some waste services won't take them because of the huge bio-hazard symbol.  But not to worry.  It's only the red Sharps containers that aren't allowed, not whats in them.   ACK!

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