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Topic: Valve Takes the Whole "Prey Thing" One Step Further (Read 29267 times)
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Strazos
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Oh, I suppose you could artificially limit the "teleports" like that. I was thinking infinite fire thing would cause a problem.
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Yoru
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That and, if you look at the Source SDK docs, it specifically states that traces (for hitscan or other things) have an upper distance limit that they'll trace to, so even if you managed to get it to fly through the portal a whole mess of times, it'll eventually stop tracing after the distance limit is achieved. You could, in a mod, set up something with a ridiculously long trace limit (it's an argument to the trace function) and try to crash the server like that, I suppose, but if their trace code is good, it'd just jump back to the start of the trace after modifying the trace's vector with the surface normal of the portal. Long loop, but probably pretty tight.
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Fabricated
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There's no way you could make a hitscan weapon fire forever with two portals facing eachother, since to get a shot to go forever you would have to fire it perfectly straight into one of the portals...which would result in you being hit. If it's off at any angle and doesn't manage to hit you somehow, it'll just travel through the portals until it has moved enough to miss entering one.
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Strazos
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If it's an acute enough angle, that could take quite a number of calculations.
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bhodi
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No lie.
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*smacks forehead at yoru/fabricated*
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Hoax
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I know I'm not the only person wishing I could give out "nerd points" in this thread.
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WindiaN
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I know I'm not the only person wishing I could give out "nerd points" in this thread.
what if you enabled both infinite tracer length AND full bullet penetration? Can i get some points now?
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Hoax
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You really need to go into nerdy detail of why that would be so cool/overpowered/server-crashing or whatever to qualify for points, sorry. Better luck tomorrow!
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A nation consists of its laws. A nation does not consist of its situation at a given time. If an individual's morals are situational, then that individual is without morals. If a nation's laws are situational, that nation has no laws, and soon isn't a nation. -William Gibson
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Yoru
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I only knew that because I was looking at the Source SDK docs yesterday to satisfy some curiosities about their object model. Turns out it's similar to MFC and COM, which amused me to no end. Okay, I guess that is pretty nerdy.
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Yegolev
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This looks like the kind of game that would make me throw my mouse. Camper's paradise is the tip of the iceberg, the whole ruleset for FPS thinking goes out the window. Putting Bugs Bunny portable holes in a FPS is going to make a lot of grown men cry. It had better have fucking sticky grenades, too.
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Why am I homeless? Why do all you motherfuckers need homes is the real question. They called it The Prayer, its answer was law Mommy come back 'cause the water's all gone
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Yegolev
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Okay, I guess that is pretty nerdy. Very nerdy. Don't bring that up when trolling for poon.
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Why am I homeless? Why do all you motherfuckers need homes is the real question. They called it The Prayer, its answer was law Mommy come back 'cause the water's all gone
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schild
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Theoretically you should be able to put a hole in one wall and another right next to it perpendicular and make recursive grenades. God this is going to be fun.
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Hoax
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I have to say, ever since Tribes1 opened up the z-axis to me I've found standard fps so damn boring I just can't get into it anymore. Something I was trying to bring up when I drunkenly rambled about K-games was that I think that games where you have to learn something to play well are something we need more of, not less.
This looks and sounds cool, any hope I had of not getting re-involved w/ Valve has gone out the fucking window it seems I've been saying I'm going to get HL2/CS:S for like 4 months now for various reasons.
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A nation consists of its laws. A nation does not consist of its situation at a given time. If an individual's morals are situational, then that individual is without morals. If a nation's laws are situational, that nation has no laws, and soon isn't a nation. -William Gibson
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Prospero
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Apparently this was originally a Digipen student project, and Valve picked up the whole team when they graduated. Das details: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narbacular_DropGood for them for doing something so cool for a school project.
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schild
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EGM (or maybe PC Gamer, I forget), covered this game in it's FREE GAME section right before E3. It's just getting press now. I find that interesting. Slap Valve on it and make a pretty trailer and it's suddenly HUGE. That said, I didn't look into it either when I read about it in a magazine and only noticed how cool it was when the trailer came out.
Heh.
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Prospero
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As much as I'd like to bury them all up to their necks in concrete, there's a reason markerters exist.
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Ironwood
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Late to this thread.
Holy. Fuck.
Valve have some big fucking brains working there. Big. If they can only crack that AI stuff, I don't reckon I'd need to buy games from anyone else.
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Sky
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Man, I miss Tribes2. I wish Planetside has used jetpacks.
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Samwise
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EGM (or maybe PC Gamer, I forget), covered this game in it's FREE GAME section right before E3. It's just getting press now. I find that interesting. Slap Valve on it and make a pretty trailer and it's suddenly HUGE. That said, I didn't look into it either when I read about it in a magazine and only noticed how cool it was when the trailer came out.
It's not so much the Valve logo as the trailer. There's a difference between hearing about the game in the abstract and seeing teh shiney for yourself.
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Alkiera
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I only knew that because I was looking at the Source SDK docs yesterday to satisfy some curiosities about their object model. Turns out it's similar to MFC and COM, which amused me to no end. Okay, I guess that is pretty nerdy. I was going to mention this, except you already had. I know it from looking at writing mods for Quake and UT. Both had distance limits on the hitscan function, I couldn't imagine someone else taking it out. It's basically how quake limited the range on the shotgun. And I have to agree with everyone else. This looks Freekin' Cool. I may have to actually purchase something from Valve. Dangit. Alkiera
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