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Topic: Dragonlance the movie, staring Lucy Lawless (Read 45376 times)
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Llava
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It was a retcon, actually.
In my oldschool Monstrous Manual, likely released just after they came up with the idea of Menzoberranzananabadingdong, it lists the drow as Chaotic Evil.
Their entire attitude, however, is clearly Lawful Evil. If you get caught doing it, it's wrong and they'll probably kill you. If you don't, good on you.
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That the saints may enjoy their beatitude and the grace of God more abundantly they are permitted to see the punishment of the damned in hell. -Saint Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica
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Morat20
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It was a retcon, actually.
In my oldschool Monstrous Manual, likely released just after they came up with the idea of Menzoberranzananabadingdong, it lists the drow as Chaotic Evil.
Their entire attitude, however, is clearly Lawful Evil. If you get caught doing it, it's wrong and they'll probably kill you. If you don't, good on you.
I dunno, though. They encourage you to do the shit you're not supposed to get caught doing -- their entire society is built on it. And they're not exactly keen on investigating -- they don't give a shit. So in short, it's got rules, but you're encouraged -- actually forced -- to break them as a fact of life. Seems fairly chaotic to me.
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Samwise
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EVIL fun and games. What with the killings, and beatings, and random animalistic sex. Ironically, drow society is what Christians keep telling me atheists are like.
I meet all the wrong sorts of atheists, it appears.
Try your local SCA chapter.
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Morat20
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EVIL fun and games. What with the killings, and beatings, and random animalistic sex. Ironically, drow society is what Christians keep telling me atheists are like.
I meet all the wrong sorts of atheists, it appears.
Try your local SCA chapter. I have SOME fucking pride, you know. Although I do go to the Ren Fest every other year or so.
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HaemishM
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EVIL fun and games. What with the killings, and beatings, and random animalistic sex. Ironically, drow society is what Christians keep telling me atheists are like.
I meet all the wrong sorts of atheists, it appears.
Try your local SCA chapter. I have SOME fucking pride, you know. Although I do go to the Ren Fest every other year or so. Those two statements contradict one another.
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Morat20
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EVIL fun and games. What with the killings, and beatings, and random animalistic sex. Ironically, drow society is what Christians keep telling me atheists are like.
I meet all the wrong sorts of atheists, it appears.
Try your local SCA chapter. I have SOME fucking pride, you know. Although I do go to the Ren Fest every other year or so. Those two statements contradict one another. Nah. My wife likes to sew, so she makes a new costume each time we go. And her best friend does the same thing. I'm not going to turn down an afternoon of my wife and her rather hot friend wandering around in something showing off a lot of cleavage. :) I can put up with the occasional idiot -- and Klingon. For some reason, the Texas Ren Fest attracted Klingons for several years. Plus my kids loves it.
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Lantyssa
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In my oldschool Monstrous Manual, likely released just after they came up with the idea of Menzoberranzananabadingdong, it lists the drow as Chaotic Evil.
I hope you meant Fiend Folio. /geek Nah. My wife likes to sew, so she makes a new costume each time we go. And her best friend does the same thing. I'm not going to turn down an afternoon of my wife and her rather hot friend wandering around in something showing off a lot of cleavage. :) I can put up with the occasional idiot -- and Klingon. For some reason, the Texas Ren Fest attracted Klingons for several years.
Plus my kids loves it.
We have a pretty good RenFest, but those Klingons were odd. We've had some anime cosplayers running around lately, too...
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Hahahaha! I'm really good at this!
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Strazos
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The World's Worst Game: Curry or Covid
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At least Inuyasha wouldn't be Terribly out of place...
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Fear the Backstab! "Plato said the virtuous man is at all times ready for a grammar snake attack." - we are lesion "Hell is other people." -Sartre
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Lantyssa
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Sephiroth would be though...
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Hahahaha! I'm really good at this!
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Rasix
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Nothing good can come of discussing elves. And this thread proves it. Glenn Royer's List of Reasons to Hate Elves They're uppity. They have the pointiest ears. Everybody adores them. They live for hundreds of years. They don't grow old. They're always the protagonist. They're always up to something. They live in trees, yet have a highly advanced culture. They build impossibly tall spires (which should snap like matchsticks according to physics). They have a god complex. Every other one is a magic user. Every leaf is sacred. They're majestic and mysterious. They're dark and secretive. They're aloof and enigmatic. There are too many types of them!! Everything they make is "lighter, yet stronger" or "delicate, yet sturdy". They think they know everything. Call something Elven and it's better. They're beautiful but deadly. The elven attitude. Courtesy of googling, "I hate elves".
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GenVec
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Greyhawk was generic D&D land. It was the first 'world' and one in which anything in the AD&D ruleset could happen. Planescape was Gods & Demigods and other-planar beings. Pretty much what you saw in the CRPG. Dragonlance is the "romantic" fantasy setting (thus the melodrama, I suppose) and included Dragons & Dragon-mounted "Lances" for aireal jousting.. There were no Gods in Dragonlance, as the gods had withdrawn. There was something about the moons and mages, too.
The Gods didn't withdraw until post Dragons of Summer Flame, which thoroughly gutted the setting and turned it to shit. Keep in mind that this is my opinion when I was 12, so the entire thing might have been fecal matter without me ever knowing it. Summer Flame was my favorite book for a few years however, if for no other reason than seeing Tanis's miserable hide get skinned. The trilogy starring Caramon and Raistlin and set between Spring Dawning/Summer Flame was also pretty good, though they'd be hard pressed to turn that into any coherent sort of film. The powers that be should get their shit together and turn David Eddings' Elenium series into a film. Or make an MMO out of David Gemmel's Drenai Saga. Preferably one just as brutal and bloody as the series. As for an animated Dragonlance, I predict a level of success on par with the previous D&D film.
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Cheddar
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The trilogy starring Caramon and Raistlin and set between Spring Dawning/Summer Flame was also pretty good, though they'd be hard pressed to turn that into any coherent sort of film.
Yeah, it was. I like how they showed Raist as completely consumed with power, to the point of sacrificing anyone in his way. I enjoyed the dark tones and eventually character resolutions. Of course you saw them coming a mile away, but it was still a good teen trilogy. Plus Caramon hit level 20, bitches.
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No Nerf, but I put a link to this very thread and I said that you all can guarantee for my purity. I even mentioned your case, and see if they can take a look at your lawn from a Michigan perspective.
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Resvrgam
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It's about time! I suppose releasing an animated film in the long wake after the LOTR frenzy has started losing its steam is better than nothing at all.
I remember the rumors of a Dragonlance film sputtering through Dragon Magazine back in 1990 and am glad it might actually see the light of day. I never particularly cared for any of the D&D settings, especially the Forgotten Realms. Dragonlance was probably the one series I actually bothered to last more than one book with because a few of the characters held my interest.
True, Dragonlance is stained in the awful sludge that is Dungeons & Dragons and true; the series feels a little more geared toward a younger demographic but there's no way I would condemn this to the polyp-filled bowels of a Sci-Fi original movie just yet.
Hell, the Chronicles of Anthropomorphic Pedophiles...er...Narnia pretty much drove a stake through the heart of the whole fantasy genre Peter Jackson's opus attempted to rekindle (the less said about the new Star Wars movies the better). I'd actually love to see how Hollywood could ruin my perceptions of Weis & Hickman's characters. Having Xena voice Goldmoon isn't that bad....as long as Chris Rock (or one of the Wayans Bros.) doesn't voice Tasslehoff Burrfoot, I'll go see the film.
I hope they take some liberties with the story and change a few over-the-top scenes that felt tacked on: the forest dinner with the Great Stag, a better reasoning for dragging a senial geriatric (Fizban) along for the infiltration of Pax Tharkas, Tanis being so damn whiny all the time, an extended scene in Xak Tsaroth where Riverwind is completely melted by acid from Khisanth's breath attack (God, I hated that one-dimensional character....he must've been someone's "mule"), etc.
I have a feeling the producers may make Raistlin some badass in the representations of the early books despite being mostly inept and annoying. His time to shine really didn't occur until he became the badass, black-robed rapist. Raistlin Majere...starring Vin Diesel.....no thanks.
Still, better late than never I suppose.
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Ironwood
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I wouldn't worry. They'll have to pare down quite a bit of the 'fluff' to make for a decent movie. Also, I'm not sure that Narnia did anything to fantasy movies : It was too boring to take seriously and too CGI to dismiss as tripe. I watched it and forgot about it instantly, it was so bland.
Raistlin was never that inept and annoying. He at least retained the quality of keeping his head when all about were losing theirs. He really came in to his own when the Inn fell on top of them. A very memorable chapter that.
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