more 0.0 ratting!

[WayAbvPar]

That is my feeling- kill the crappy spawns and hope a rare pops.

[Gong]

Question: If you do find said bullshit spawn, would it be wide to eliminate them and hope that something better will replace it?

correct.

[Llyse]

Chaining definitely works btw, had a triple spawn of 1.5mills Thrones, left the frigs went to a double spawn of Saints ( god they hurt) By the time I finished that and another single spawn of Saints the Thrones were back  :-D

[WayAbvPar]

Yeah Saints are a PITA to tank when you are set up for the normal Angel damage.

[dwindlehop]

Using Ex, Kin, and Th hardeners, the spreadsheet says I can tank 3 Thrones for 266.83 seconds or 3 Saints for 241.31 seconds. Against Seraphim (EM) I would have to run. Once I get BC to 4 (three days left) I'll be able to tank 3 Thrones for more than 5 minutes. With Energy Systems Operation 4 (1 day left), I'll have the cap to run my tank for five minutes flat out, or indefinitely with a 90% duty cycle.

I found 3x Saints and had to run. The numbers I quoted had all three hardeners active, which I don't have the CPU for. There's two minutes' difference between having all three hardeners going and having just the Ex & Th. I still don't have BC4 (yay margin trading). With BC4 and Elec5, I'll be all set. I only have 24 hours left on BC4, but Elec5 is still another week at least. I'm still trying to figure out an interim fitting that can take 3 Thrones or 3 Saints.

[dwindlehop]

FFS, a decent pair of named launchers will make it work, if I have Elec5, or named launchers + named hardeners if I don't. I have a Malkuth, so I just need one more. I can't believe I've been offlining my stupid hardeners for a week and a half. Where're those stupid Saints?

Now I can concentrate on shield and cap skills instead of Electronics.

Cyclone

720mm Howitzer Artillery I [13xFusion M]
720mm Howitzer Artillery I [13xFusion M]
720mm Howitzer Artillery I [13xFusion M]
720mm Howitzer Artillery I [13xFusion M]
720mm Howitzer Artillery I [13xFusion M]
Heavy Missile Launcher I [29xHavoc Heavy Missile]
'Malkuth' Heavy Missile Launcher I [32xHavoc Heavy Missile]
'Malkuth' Heavy Missile Launcher I [32xHavoc Heavy Missile]

Medium Shield Booster II
Explosion Dampening Field I
Heat Dissipation Field I
Shield Boost Amplifier I
Ballistic Deflection Field I

Power Diagnostic System I
Power Diagnostic System I
Power Diagnostic System I
Power Diagnostic System I

Valkyrie I
Valkyrie I
Warrior I
Warrior I
Valkyrie I

3619 shield, 14.54/s, E/T/K/Ex=0/60/70/80
3000 armor, E/T/K/Ex=70/35/25/10
2354.340352 cap, +21.1/s, -24.8/s
198.0 m/s
100.7 DPS (2:17 to take down a War General)

a bunch of grid and like 7 cpu left over

I can run all mods flat out for about four minutes, so versus three Saints I'd run my cap into the ground until I took one down and then burn my shields while my cap got back up to 29%. I think it might work.

[Der Helm]

Yesterday I bought the Minmatar Battleship skill.And trained it to level II

I'll be gone for about a week (www.metalcamp.com) that is enough time to get my gunnery skill to 5 so I can train large projectile turrets.

Now all I need is 150 million credits for a decent BS, insurance and a cushion to fall back on.

So I hope you guys have a setup that will allow me to tank those 1mill+ BS rats,when I come back. I need the cash.

[dwindlehop]

It's not difficult to run a 10MN MWD indefinitely with a Cyclone. You can also get a 100MN AB on and run that indefinitely with decent Navigation skills. Has anyone attempted either one of these with ACs? I'm sure whatever BS you were targeting would completely miss you but I'm not sure about the other BSs. Might be fun to experiment with.

[Strazos]

Der Helm, you could probably tank 1m+ BSs in your own BS in your sleep...I practically can in a Ferox.

[dwindlehop]

While I'm looking around for more Malkuth launchers I will also try to find a Large Shield Booster II. Then I could try this guy:
Cyclone

Medium Nosferatu I
Medium Nosferatu I
Medium Nosferatu I
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon I [106xFusion M]
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon I [106xFusion M]
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon I [106xFusion M]
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon I [106xFusion M]
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon I [106xFusion M]

Invulnerability Field I
Invulnerability Field I
F-S15 Braced Deflection Shield Matrix
100MN Afterburner I
Large Shield Booster II

Power Diagnostic System I
Power Diagnostic System I
Power Diagnostic System I
Power Diagnostic System I

Valkyrie I
Valkyrie I
Valkyrie I
Warrior I
Warrior I

3619 shield, 14.54/s, E/T/K/Ex=41/53/64/86
3000 armor, E/T/K/Ex=70/35/25/10
2354.340352 cap, +21.1/s, -69.421/s
721.908 m/s
102.5 DPS (2:14 to down a War General)

I calculate I can keep the booster on 70% of the time with the afterburner off. The absolute tanking isn't as good as my arty version versus Saints, but I'd have a chance versus a couple of Seraphim if I ever find any. If I can avoid taking hits by going 720 m/s all the time I think it'll do better than my arty fitting. With the AB on, I hover around 55% cap, so I can run the booster a few cycles if the shield regen can't handle whatever damage I eat. I'm not sure how many hits I can avoid by going fast, though.

[edlavallee]

You need Malkuth Launchers? Hit me up in game and make me sift thru my stash... I seem to remember one dropped last time I was ratting.

[Furiously]

Yesterday I bought the Minmatar Battleship skill.And trained it to level II

I'll be gone for about a week (www.metalcamp.com) that is enough time to get my gunnery skill to 5 so I can train large projectile turrets.

Now all I need is 150 million credits for a decent BS, insurance and a cushion to fall back on.

So I hope you guys have a setup that will allow me to tank those 1mill+ BS rats,when I come back. I need the cash.

If you want to tank rats, get an AF. If you want to damage them however....