NCSoft and the Online Gaming World at its knees

[schild]

Don't worry, Damijin. I played the original Lineage for about a year and nearly got to level 50 before I quit. I'm surprised I still have vital signs.

Vital signs, now there's a gray area, Signe. We actually replaced your heart with a coconut and your brain with a pack of wild zebras running around in the worlds most spacious blender - also, there might be a clown or two somewhere in there. Translate that as you want, but technically, I suppose you still have vital signs.

[damijin]

Getting to 50 in L1 is no joke (or so I hear). That game is a harder grind than L2, and you character is always the same sprite, unaffected by armor or weapon (I think!)

I commend you sir!

I still have some relative hope for L3, but I'm more interested in Aion and Warhammer until L3 releases some basic news/concepts. I'm also interested (as are a significant portion of my L2 friends) in Pirates of the Burning Sea, I just thought I'd put that out there in case it struck anyone as strange that a bunch of grind happy cheaters would want to play a quest-based naval game.

[Morfiend]

Vital signs, now there's a gray area, Signe. We actually replaced your heart with a coconut and your brain with a pack of wild zebras running around in the worlds most spacious blender - also, there might be a clown or two somewhere in there. Translate that as you want, but technically, I suppose you still have vital signs.

Damnit, you have been reading the script for Rob Schnieders: The Animal 2.

But when you say it, I think the movie might be good.

[Bunk]

Good Lord do I miss out on some great threads...

Was a little disapointing, I kept waiting for someone to post Diatress's sectret Blog and breakup letters from his girlfriend.
All in all I'm quite impressed that Diatress maintained such a happy outlook throughout all this, far better than most of his/her kind fair with this type of first post.

A few comments to try to press this silly thread further:

 - most of us are no longer MMoG gamers, we are now jaded ex-gamers with pipedreams of the next great thing.
 - L2 is almost the perfect template of a game built for gold farming, so it's tough to feel sorry for you
 - we've been through this before. IGE has been the target of many a rant here in the past, and when you jumped in with a rant that looked like a four year old wrote it, well, you got what you got.

Welcome to the forums. :)



hmm... spellchecker seems to be broken. Maybe the Grammar Snake ate it?
Ok, no it isn't. Company web connection dropped. Notepad is my friend.

[Signe]

I commend you sir!

Thank you, madam! 

[damijin]

now I feel dumb.

[Cheddar]

Wait a sec, Signe is a chick?

[Signe]

Wait a sec, Signe is a chick?

Don't be silly.  I'm a woman.

[WindupAtheist]

[Bunk]

now I feel dumb.

Don't feel bad, they are somewhat of a rarity in these parts. Off the top of my head we have the avatar griefing euro-chick you just met, an elveny named one with racoony avatars, and a chainsmoking botanist who got exiled to buttfuck nowhere.

Anyone else is just a mangina.

Welcome to the boards.


*edit: Signe, your current avatard is actually cute. Much better than any of the ones with the aggresive packages.

[Trippy]

Don't feel bad, they are somewhat of a rarity in these parts. Off the top of my head we have the avatar griefing euro-chick you just met, an elveny named one with racoony avatars, and a chainsmoking botanist who got exiled to buttfuck nowhere.

Anyone else is just a mangina.

Uh oh.

[Signe]

You are more Euro than I am, you big Canadian you!  (and probably more woman than I could ever be, no?)

[Strazos]

Oohhhhhh, that right there is a call for fisticuffs where I hail from.

And actually, I believe there are at least 4 women at F13, but we tend to just glaze over that point.

EDIT: And in some places, it's still probably the right thing to call a woman Sir. The military comes to mind, though someone will undoubtedly correct me.

[Signe]

I thought that was just for Startrek.

[Strazos]

If I'm talking to a woman who also happens to be something like a Major, I'd be inclined to address her as Sir. I'm assuming she earned the rank like most other people.

[Cheddar]

If I'm talking to a woman who also happens to be something like a Major, I'd be inclined to address her as Sir. I'm assuming she earned the rank like most other people.

Not really.  Women should not be in the military; hell they should barely be allowed to work (outside of raising kids/taking care of home).  First they get the right to drive, then they want the right to vote. 

But I digress.

[Cyrrex]

From wikipedia:

Military and police use
"Ma'am" (to rhyme with "arm") is commonly used to address female officers of the rank of Inspector and above in British police forces and female Commissioned Officers and Warrant Officers in the British Armed Forces.

In the United States Armed Forces, "ma'am" (to rhyme with "jam") is used to address a female commissioned officer. Marine recruits and Air Force trainees also address female non-commissioned officers as "ma'am."

Possibly the shortness of the word helps explain another, in a sense compensating, idiomatic but non-official practice in American English: emphatically saying Ma'am both in front and behind an obedient response in clear voice to the senior, especially during drill, e.g. 'Ma'am, yes, ma'am!'

[Strazos]

"I learned something today."

[Tmon]

From wikipedia:
...Possibly the shortness of the word helps explain another, in a sense compensating, idiomatic but non-official practice in American English: emphatically saying Ma'am both in front and behind an obedient response in clear voice to the senior, especially during drill, e.g. 'Ma'am, yes, ma'am!'

[/quote]

The phrase 'sir yes sir' is called a sir sandwich, I guess when it involves a female officer it would be a ma'am sandwich.

[WindupAtheist]

Wouldn't they both be "yes sandwiches" since the sir/ma'am is the bread?

[damijin]

Are you suggesting that there is something wrong with a bread sandwich?

[Xilren's Twin]

The phrase 'sir yes sir' is called a sir sandwich, I guess when it involves a female officer it would be a ma'am sandwich.

Wouldn't that be a ma'amwich?

Which was some fine eatin when I was 6.

Xilren

[Toast]

Mmmm. The sandwich that eats like a meal.

Nice thread. The taint creeps into F13 from the outside world as the site gets more exposure. Luckily, the attack dogs come in and get things cleaned up very quickly. A funny thread is the result. Everyone wins.

What's even better is that some of the new folks who got pummelled actually stick around and become part of the community.

[Slayerik]

I played Lineage 1 for 3 years and made it to level 4.2

True story.



On subject, my guess is eventually MMOG companies will start giving the farmers a run for their money. From a business standpoint, why let them get a piece of your pie? Additional charges directly to the credit card you are already using for your sub. Hell, Blizzard now has 25 dollar character transfers. I remember UO adding some kinda of pay for X skills kinda thing.

I think it will slowly become more mainstream and accepted, especially if whatever is sold helps even the playing field for the more casual types (see 9-5ers, people that started playing MMOs but cannot do the grind anymore). Something like this, I'll use WoW as an example. Lets say 1 year ago...

Tier 1 armor and weapons can only be received currently if you are a raiding guild. After a certain amount of time passes, and the next instance comes out and starts to be farmed, then you can then purchase the Tier 1 items with real life cash.

15 Dollars for an item like Brutality Blade.
10 per Tier 1 armor piece
10 dollars for 5 of any cores

20 dollars for 500 gold.

Rare drops such as Vis'kag from Onyxia CANNOT be purchased. Quest items such as Black Sinew, or the leaf or Eye from Domo cannot be purchased. This leaves the 'hardcore' guys with their hardcore stuff. Have more rare drops in these dungeons to counter the catass response of OMGWTF they didnt earn it!

They get the items later. They are casual and still competitive. The catasses still have their slight advantage. The company makes more money.

I was as 'hardcore' as it got for a married man with 2 kids...i was BWL geared out before i retired... and this wouldnt bug me in the least.

[Morat20]

From wikipedia:

Military and police use
"Ma'am" (to rhyme with "arm") is commonly used to address female officers of the rank of Inspector and above in British police forces and female Commissioned Officers and Warrant Officers in the British Armed Forces.

In the United States Armed Forces, "ma'am" (to rhyme with "jam") is used to address a female commissioned officer. Marine recruits and Air Force trainees also address female non-commissioned officers as "ma'am."

Possibly the shortness of the word helps explain another, in a sense compensating, idiomatic but non-official practice in American English: emphatically saying Ma'am both in front and behind an obedient response in clear voice to the senior, especially during drill, e.g. 'Ma'am, yes, ma'am!'

Wikipedia knows all. All hail Wikipedia!

[tazelbain]

Wikipedia knows all. All hail Wikipedia!

Wikipedia knows enough. Golf-clap for Wikipedia.

[Viin]

I think they just make the crap up.

[Nija]

You are number six.

I AM NOT A NUMBER! I AM A FREE MAN!

This thread can be summed up with, "haha, L2". Good follow-through however.

[Righ]

Rare drops such as Vis'kag from Onyxia CANNOT be purchased. Quest items such as Black Sinew, or the leaf or Eye from Domo cannot be purchased.

Yes they can. Buy an account.

[Slayerik]

Rare drops such as Vis'kag from Onyxia CANNOT be purchased. Quest items such as Black Sinew, or the leaf or Eye from Domo cannot be purchased.

Yes they can. Buy an account.

Well, thats a whole nother ball of wax.

I guess i was trying to start some sort of conversation regarding how the industry could take advantage of people with fat wallets with nothing else to spend their money on as long as they did it in a controlled matter to not piss off the fanbois, and make the casual gamers pleased by these options.

I was waiting for a response that might be like "well then you start having liability issues when you charge for online goods" etc...or maybe something else to talk about, but its not surprising that my post may get overlooked...I cannot really get brutally FLAMMED for it so why bother responding ? No offense guys, but if you wanna play the "it's been said card" show your stuff and discuss my totally bad ass idea. That or we can just let this doomed thread die.

[Slayerik]

Rare drops such as Vis'kag from Onyxia CANNOT be purchased. Quest items such as Black Sinew, or the leaf or Eye from Domo cannot be purchased.

Yes they can. Buy an account.

The young fighter had a hungry look, the kind you get from not eating for a while.

[Cheddar]

<words>

let this doomed thread die.

Wish I was too dead to cry
My self-affliction fades
Stones to throw at my creator
Masochists to which I cater
You don't need to bother;
I don't need to be
I'll keep slipping farther
But once I hold on,
I won't let go 'til it bleeds

Wish I was too dead to care
If indeed I cared at all
Never had a voice to protest
So you fed me shit to digest
I wish I had a reason;
my flaws are open season
For this, I gave up trying
One good turn deserves my dying

You don't need to bother;
I don't need to be
I'll keep slipping farther
But once I hold on,
I won't let go 'til it bleeds

[Solo: Corey]

Wish I'd died instead of lived
A zombie hides my face
Shell forgotten
with its memories
Diaries left
with cryptic entries

And you don't need to bother;
I don't need to be
I'll keep slipping farther
But once I hold on,
I won't let go 'til it bleeds

You don't need to bother;
I don't need to be
I'll keep slipping farther
But once I hold on:
I'll never live down my deceit

[Slayerik]

<words>

let this doomed thread die.

<Lyrics or a poem or something>

He spoke with the wisdom that can only come from experience, like a guy who went blind because he looked at a solar eclipse without one of those boxes with a pinhole in it and now goes around the country speaking at high schools about the dangers of looking at a solar eclipse without one of those boxes with a pinhole in it.

[Signe]

Her name was Lola, she was a showgirl
With yellow feathers in her hair and a dress cut down to there
She would merengue and do the cha-cha
And while she tried to be a star, Tony always tended bar
Across a crowded floor, they worked from 8 till 4
They were young and they had each other
Who could ask for more?

[Righ]

Her name was Lola, she was a showgirl
With yellow feathers in her hair and a dress cut down to there
She would merengue and do the cha-cha
And while she tried to be a star, Tony always tended bar
Across a crowded floor, they worked from 8 till 4
They were young and they had each other
Who could ask for more?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mzmhHWwwAk