Red Moon Rising newbie experience (old)

[Viin]

Yah, personally, I find my ISK (cash) flow affects my "advancement" much more than my skills. Sure, I can fly HACs, but I sure as hell can't afford one.

[dwindlehop]

A ship class for each race more or less constitutes a class in the fantasy diku sense. For example, you have your Gallente cruiser "class", with a drone spec, Vexor, or a blaster spec, Thorax. I think a big problem is that game selects for people who don't train up for their class but instead ride up the T1 tree and then up the T2 tree. People wind up doing the equivalent of leveling a dozen diku toons to 45 by running up the T1 tree, then doing inties, AFs, or covops, dabbling in the bigger T2 ships, before settling on a "class" to take to "60". And that takes forever. I'm as guilty of that as anyone. I have changed my thinking on which Spaceship Command skill to take to V a dozen times. I have yet to take one to V partially because I am still undecided.

In theory, there's no reason why you couldn't pick one ship and train hard for it and fly it competently as fast as a non-catass could level a 60 in WoW (well, WoW might be a bad example because it's very fast. Certainly DAOC). The problem is that you make so isk so much faster in a cruiser than a frig, and more isk in a BC than a cruiser, and more isk in a BS than a BC. And with destroyer buffs you can throw destroyers in there now, too.

The Soldier option at least removes the pain of T2 turrets. T2 small guns are a gimmee, and T2 medium guns are the same as training for T2 heavies now. Which is good.

It is my hope that Invention plus the new T2 BPO seeding will bring down T2 prices by increasing supply to match demand. There's just no way that a HAC should cost more than a BS, or an AF 3x more than a cruiser.

[Murgos]

... im ... a ... bitch ...

I can ... make some money ... Can ... earn some ropes ... Im close ...  really ... suck ... decent.

I am bored so playing WUA edit game.

I had to do a double take.  Is it only Slayerik he does that to or does he go after Sinij too?

[Cheddar]

... im ... a ... bitch ...

I can ... make some money ... Can ... earn some ropes ... Im close ...  really ... suck ... decent.

I am bored so playing WUA edit game.

I had to do a double take.  Is it only Slayerik he does that to or does he go after Sinij too?

Sinij and devs.  Some kinda highlander thing they have going on.  IN THE END THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!

[Pig Destroyer]

So I made the 34 jump trek to Neesher to join the F13 corp.  And in approximately 1 hour after my roles expire from my old corp I will actually be able to apply.

I have not played in nearly a year, and I have about 8 million SP.  90% of that is in Industry-type stuff, but I'm willing to expand into some combat skill, but I have a few questions.

As a miner, is it still pretty necessary to run 2 accounts?  1 miner 1 hauler?  or 1 miner 1hauler/bodyguard for lower sec mining?  I would love to be able to do my industrial stuff with just one account.  I can currently fly the best mining Barge.

As far as combat stuff goes, I have no idea where to even start, yesterday when I logged in I started training Gunnery 4.  I have really high learning skills so I could catch up fairly quickly.  I am gallente and have Gallente Cruiser 4 trained, any suggestions for a combat ship?  Is a Thorax still pretty decent?

Sorry for all the n00b questions, but I feel like the game has changed a LOT since I played.

In-game name is Negation.

[Slayerik]

... im ... a ... bitch ...

I can ... make some money ... Can ... earn some ropes ... Im close ...  really ... suck ... decent.

I am bored so playing WUA edit game.

Im honored Chedd, truely. ;)

I had to do a double take.  Is it only Slayerik he does that to or does he go after Sinij too?

Sinij and devs.  Some kinda highlander thing they have going on.  IN THE END THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!

[WayAbvPar]

So I made the 34 jump trek to Neesher to join the F13 corp.  And in approximately 1 hour after my roles expire from my old corp I will actually be able to apply.

I have not played in nearly a year, and I have about 8 million SP.  90% of that is in Industry-type stuff, but I'm willing to expand into some combat skill, but I have a few questions.

As a miner, is it still pretty necessary to run 2 accounts?  1 miner 1 hauler?  or 1 miner 1hauler/bodyguard for lower sec mining?  I would love to be able to do my industrial stuff with just one account.  I can currently fly the best mining Barge.

As far as combat stuff goes, I have no idea where to even start, yesterday when I logged in I started training Gunnery 4.  I have really high learning skills so I could catch up fairly quickly.  I am gallente and have Gallente Cruiser 4 trained, any suggestions for a combat ship?  Is a Thorax still pretty decent?

Sorry for all the n00b questions, but I feel like the game has changed a LOT since I played.

In-game name is Negation.

Thorax is a good ship. Most of us are centered in Akora now; if you head up that way, you should be able to dig up someone to mine with or to clear the belts for you. I run two accounts (one combat and one industrial/research/mining) which makes it easier, but you could do it with one with just a bit of help.

Don't forget to join the F13 channel when you are in game and say hi!