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						| Abagadro 
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 I really enjoy Top Gear. It's so goofy yet cool at the same time. I was really glad that Hammond came out of that horrific accident so well. |  
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						| lamaros 
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 I really enjoy Top Gear. It's so goofy yet cool at the same time. I was really glad that Hammond came out of that horrific accident so well.
 I watched the Africa episode yesterday. Very funny and enjoyable. They're trying to make a local Australian version here at the moment. *shudder* |  
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						| stray 
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 Holy shit? Wesley got his throat sliced? Man, he already had it bad after Gunn snatched away Fred.    It sounds like its too late for you, but perhaps I can save some other lurking soul.    
 Yeah... I keep wanting to back out, but everytime some kind of Buffy-Angel crossover happens, I get trapped into watching Buffy again, and forget why I dislike it. |  
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						| Prospero 
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 The North Pole episode of Top Gear is a damn good time. I was tickled to find out BBC puts most of Top Gear on youtube.     BBC Now if only they'd put the full episodes of Doctor Who and League of Gentlemen up my world would be complete. |  
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						| Ironwood 
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 Holy shit? Wesley got his throat sliced? Man, he already had it bad after Gunn snatched away Fred.   Do you not read my posts or was it that you just didn't believe me ? Best scene in Angel. |  
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						| Ironwood 
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 And every fucking episode since she's appeared has been like that. Just the episode before it was like that. Buffy thinks she accidentally killed some random chick while hunting demons -- she decides to report herself to the cops -- but before she does so, she tries to have some sisterly talk with Dawn, tells her what she did, and that she was going to the police. Then immediately Dawn goes ballistic and starts crying about how Buffy doesn't care about her anyways. No argument, nothing. It just segued into some psycho rant. And this girl's 16 years old -- wtf is her problem?
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						| HaemishM 
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 There is a Master in the post-Eccleston era?
 Yes, at the end of season 3, and he was pretty damn cooky. It was a good ending to another great season, even without Billie Piper. |  
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						| Ironwood 
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 You liked the ending?
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						| Tebonas 
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 Personally I liked the master as the dark mirror of the current doctor. The plot of the ending sucked, though. Especially the "Now we all say Doctor to revive him" masterplan shit. |  
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						| NowhereMan 
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 That ending simply wasn't Dr. Who. The Doctor isn't meant to beat his opponents by turning into fucking Neo and flying around stopping bullets because of the magical power of wishes. It came off as fucking lame writing that stretched the believability of a show that is usually incredibly good at spinning crazy ass stroylines. |  
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						| Ironwood 
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 Tinkerbell Jesus Nonsense, I thought.  Let's revive with the healing power of LUV.
 Also, the 'let's just reboot everything' made the previous episodes entirely pointless.
 
 Never mind that the whole thing was nicked from every other show in the universe.  The Ming the Merciless ring scene was the final nail in the coffin.
 
 It's a shame, because the preceding episode was fantastic.  Simm's Master was brilliant, though a departure from what was expected.  The phone conversation between Master and Doctor was awesome in every way.  The Master admitting that he was a coward (finally) was beautifully handled.  It was such a strong episode and then it just got flung away for pantomime nonsense.
 
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 IMO.
 
 Sorry, I'm getting carried away again.  A show for kids.  For Kids.
 
 Sorry.
 
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						| Tebonas 
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 I also really liked the dawning realization that the Doctor is essentially as broken as the master, for essentially the same reasons, but it had a different effect on him. That put a nice spin on an age-old-rivalry. But maybe thats not news for people who saw all episodes of the old series as well. |  
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						| Riggswolfe 
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 I'm sorry I didn't chime in earlier on this.  My Buffy advice is:  Watch seasons 1-3, then pretend the rest never existed.  It sounds like its too late for you, but perhaps I can save some other lurking soul.
 
 That's shitty advice. Season 5 of Buffy is the best season of the show by far. |  
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						| Tebonas 
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 Buffy Season 5 introduced Dawn. That blemish can't be removed from a Season easily.
 Graduation Day acts a a fine finish to a great series if you are willing to let it go out on a high note.
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						| HaemishM 
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 You liked the ending?
 
 Yes, I did. Sure, it was a bit fairy-hippy-luv-conquers type of shit, but based on the concept of the technology the Master was using, it was inevitable. He had a great big psychic energy manipulator and the Doctor just redirected that energy to himself. It's not much different than "The Tardis is actually alive and gives Rose all its Tardis energy" thing. The Paradox machine resetting everything was just to keep the timeline consistent, because if they hadn't, that whole "Humans survive to the end of the universe" thing wouldn't have happened.  |  
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						| Ironwood 
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 I suspect I took more issue with the way that it was handled.
 Which was poorly.
 
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						| NowhereMan 
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 The fact that there were some great moments in it didn't help that I hated the rest of it. Also the fact that the episode didn't really have any of the doctor in but instead was pretty much all Martha didn't help much, while I don't mind companions having more to do and not being totally useless rubes good only for getting kidnapped they really shouldn't be the main focus of a series finale. |  
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 I'm sorry I didn't chime in earlier on this.  My Buffy advice is:  Watch seasons 1-3, then pretend the rest never existed.  It sounds like its too late for you, but perhaps I can save some other lurking soul.
 
 That's shitty advice. Season 5 of Buffy is the best season of the show by far.You won't see me say this often, but here goes- I agree with Triforcer. Once Buffy left high school, the whole dynamic of the show changed (losing Angel and Cordelia didn't help either).  |  
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						| Reg 
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 Flash Gordon just keeps getting better. Ming tried to kill a baby in the last episode and they keep trying to work in lyrics from the Queen song into the dialogue which amuses me. |  
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						| Morat20 
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 Flash Gordon just keeps getting better. You are what is wrong with TV. The police will be by shortly to confiscate your television.  |  
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						| Nevermore 
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 Flash Gordon just keeps getting better. Ming tried to kill a baby in the last episode and they keep trying to work in lyrics from the Queen song into the dialogue which amuses me.
 Well, it only had one direction to go since it certainly couldn't get any worse.  |  
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						| Ookii 
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 If anyone is looking for something new to watch Psych isn't that bad, it's definitely fits the bill for being entertaining.
 And of course The Wire Season 5 just started, now that's good stuff.
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						| tazelbain 
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 And don't forget the incest plot point.
 See the makers of Flash take "can't get any worse" as a challenge to dig the hole deeper, not as an opportunity to climb out.
 
 And I submit the Hawkman episode as proof the Flash is deliberately bad not just accidently bad.
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						| JWIV 
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 And don't forget the incest plot point.
 See the makers of Flash take "can't get any worse" as a challenge to dig the hole deeper, not as an opportunity to climb out.
 
 And I submit the Hawkman episode as proof the Flash is deliberately bad not just accidently bad.
 
 How the fuck did anyone get past the first episode of Flash Gordon?  It's one of the worst things I have ever seen.   |  
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						| rattran 
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 I couldn't even make it through the first episode. And I    the old serials. |  
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						| Reg 
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 Well far be it from me to challenge the F13 group-think on the issue.    But... Journeyman is cancelled and Flash Gordon isn't. It must be some kind of conspiracy! |  
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						| MrHat 
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 Journeyman got canceled?
 God damn, why do I even bother anymore.
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						| HaemishM 
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 Well far be it from me to challenge the F13 group-think on the issue.    But... Journeyman is cancelled and Flash Gordon isn't. It must be some kind of conspiracy!WHAT? Link that please, because I need something else to make me hate TV execs.  |  
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						| Evil Elvis 
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 Old news.  They said they didn't have plans on picking up any further seasons sometime before the finale. |  
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						| JWIV 
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						| Johny Cee 
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 I'm sorry I didn't chime in earlier on this.  My Buffy advice is:  Watch seasons 1-3, then pretend the rest never existed.  It sounds like its too late for you, but perhaps I can save some other lurking soul.
 
 That's shitty advice. Season 5 of Buffy is the best season of the show by far.Season 5 was the last season I really watched.  It was inconsistent as hell. There was some decent growth in the supporting characters (Xander, Anya, Spike),  and "The Body" is a great, great episode.  Much of the rest was pretty meh,  including Glory.  Though Giles little scene with Glory at the end of the finale is pretty solid. Anyone catch the new episodes of The Daily Show and Colbert Report?  Stewart and Colbert were both on top of their games.  Colbert had me rolling with his "Who wants to be a pirate?" bit when interviewing the labor economist from Harvard. |  
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						| HaemishM 
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						| tazelbain 
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 Really Journeyman wasn't very good.  It had just one trick: "watch time travel force screw some boring dude and his family"  While I admit there was some interest in what the time travel force was, not nearly enough to sit through multi-seasons. |  
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						| HaemishM 
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 I disagree with what you said, but since America and douchebag TV execs do not, just imagine     is gigantic and standing behind you.  |  
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