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Reply #770 on: March 30, 2007, 10:04:44 AM

To follow up Merusk's point, the list of flat out criminals I come up with is:

Sawyer
Kate
Jin
Eko
Paolo/hot chick

The last two are just throw away McGuffins, so you really only have 4. I didn't count Sayid becuase he was a soldier or Charlie becuase he was just a junkie. Who am I missing?

Plus, the whole point is that these are fucked up people. All four of the above had some extenuating circumstances about how they got into crime in the first place. Criminals are also some of the better dramatic devices for a multitude of reasons, so I just don't see that as a reason for bagging on the show.

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Reply #771 on: March 30, 2007, 04:36:27 PM

I'm pretty sure Shannon was running a con on her family for fraud, and I thought Anna-Lucia was a dirty cop. I'm not sure on those two, but they were slimy at the very least.


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Reply #772 on: March 30, 2007, 04:45:33 PM

Worst of all Claire was a goth.

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Reply #773 on: March 31, 2007, 05:36:29 PM

Anna-Lucia was a dirty cop, having murdered a suspect in cold blood.

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Reply #774 on: March 31, 2007, 06:30:38 PM

More of a vigilante than cold blood if you ask me. All of their crimes are somewhat morally ambiguous which is what is interesting. The only one's that weren't were the people that were just buried alive.

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Reply #775 on: March 31, 2007, 10:57:11 PM

More of a vigilante than cold blood if you ask me. All of their crimes are somewhat morally ambiguous which is what is interesting. The only one's that weren't were the people that were just buried alive.

Uh, Sawyer murdered a guy in cold blood. The wrong guy at that. That's not really ambiguous.

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Reply #776 on: March 31, 2007, 11:11:28 PM

Still, killing the guy that was responsible for the death of your parents wouldn't be as bad as killing for money. It was an honest mistake in a way.

At least he will get a second chance. If they keep up that everybody is connected spiel, there will be an ominous look on Lockes dad face when somebody mentiones the name Sawyer for the first time.
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Reply #777 on: March 31, 2007, 11:24:09 PM

More of a vigilante than cold blood if you ask me. All of their crimes are somewhat morally ambiguous which is what is interesting. The only one's that weren't were the people that were just buried alive.

Uh, Sawyer murdered a guy in cold blood. The wrong guy at that. That's not really ambiguous.

As has been pointed out, it wasn't exactly "in cold blood." It was misguided vengence and he was a patsy manipulated into doing it.

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Reply #778 on: April 01, 2007, 01:37:01 AM

I got a chance to watch a shitload of a backwards marathon of Perfect Hair Forever tonight on Adult Swim.

Only one word in the english language can describe this show...

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Reply #779 on: April 01, 2007, 09:24:42 AM

It was pretty damn amusing, I'll give it that.  Didn't know it was going backwards, as I came in at about 11:45.  Huh.

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Reply #780 on: April 04, 2007, 10:14:33 AM

Anyone else watching The Riches?  So far it hasn't been a bad way to spend an hour.  Eddie Izzard and Minnie Driver are both a lot of fun to watch.

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Reply #781 on: April 04, 2007, 12:29:49 PM

Just when I thought Lovecraft-inspired (and oh so loosely) movies couldn't get any worse, I saw The Halfway House last night. Part D-grade horror movie, part softcore porn, all cheese. Amazing in it's badness. Best feature: Sgt. Dick Sheen (and of course the obligatory shower scene). I stuck with it all the way to the credits and was rewarded with one of the worst theme songs imaginable, like some drunken retard wanting to be Tool and Korn with a home recording kit and a bottle of moonshine.

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Reply #782 on: April 09, 2007, 07:41:52 PM

Great episode of 24 tonight.  Dormitory consensus is it was the best in the last couple months.  And the secondary plot just got rolling. 

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Reply #783 on: April 09, 2007, 07:45:43 PM

I like the characters in The Riches, but watching Izzard squirm when he's asked anything about the law is painful.  I'm somewhat surprised that noone's made a fuss over his little kid being a cross-dresser.
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Reply #784 on: April 10, 2007, 06:53:47 AM

The Sopranos suck.  That episode sucked just as bad as the last two seasons sucked.  Sucked.

And they destroyed Tony's character.  We always knew he was a bad guy but he never did anything so bad that he was plainly evil.  Now that he ordered some innocent father killed for a little money and to get revenge on Bobby he's just out and out evil and can't garner any sympathy.
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Reply #785 on: April 10, 2007, 09:38:41 AM

Great episode of 24 tonight.  Dormitory consensus is it was the best in the last couple months.  And the secondary plot just got rolling. 





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Reply #786 on: April 10, 2007, 09:44:23 AM

I like the characters in The Riches, but watching Izzard squirm when he's asked anything about the law is painful.  I'm somewhat surprised that noone's made a fuss over his little kid being a cross-dresser.

I keep trying to figure out if that's a nod toward's Izzard's own proclivities or something that was in there before they did the casting.

  As for nobody making a fuss, it's pretty subtle things, like ribbons in the hair or girls shoes, and it's on a show that isn't getting a lot of national attention (from what I've noticed at least).   Were it to become one of the top 10 you'd hear about it all over.

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Reply #787 on: April 10, 2007, 10:00:04 AM

The real question is whether the kid is an executive transvestite.

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Reply #788 on: April 10, 2007, 04:30:22 PM

Of course not, he's a Gypsy (sorry, Romani..).  Executive transvestites are for buffers!

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Reply #789 on: April 10, 2007, 08:09:39 PM

The Sopranos opening was low key.  I made the mistake of skimming a review, and that shot most of the surprises.  Not alot going on here, after a 15 month? wait.

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Reply #790 on: April 11, 2007, 08:19:08 AM

I liked the Sopranos opener.  With all the focus on family and Carmella getting hurt in the Tony-Bobby fight I presume they are setting up the fact that Tony, who convinces himself that he does everything for his family, will lose them because of his job (and his job because he's trying to stay in his family's good graces). 

I think something very bad will happen to Carmella (she gets killed/finds out about Adriana/gets arrested to get to Tony) and that will finally destroy him.  And both Tony and Phil are softies on their way out of power.

The tragedy is that we all know that he jumps at Obi-Wan kills people for money and gets his limbs chopped off gets killed/jailed out of pride rather than love for his family.

I could be totally wrong.
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Reply #791 on: April 11, 2007, 08:38:14 AM

I had it (Sopranos) on the DVR, but I decided to erase it to make more room for the Planet Earth series on DiscoveryHD. Holy shit that is a great show and you should all be watching it. Amazing cinematography.
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Reply #792 on: April 11, 2007, 08:41:13 AM

I'm watching and recording all of them. It's awesome.

Extreme engineering is pretty freaking cool too.. I wish they'd rerun some of the other HD shows, they seem to be shown once and vanish without a trace.
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Reply #793 on: April 11, 2007, 09:02:29 AM

Planet Earth is brilliantly shot and all but when I watched that baby elephant get seperated from its mother in a sandstorm and eventually pick up her scent only to follow it in the wrong direction as the camera slowly pans out to this baby elephant slowly marching to a lonely death from starvation in a vast, empty desert I had to turn it off and haven't been able to watch it again since.  cry

I did see this fucking awesome HD documentary about one particular beaver dam that I would suggest to anybody if I could remember the title.  It might just be "beavers."
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Reply #794 on: April 11, 2007, 09:10:05 AM

I tried to find that film but I ended up with a much different type of documentary.

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Reply #795 on: April 11, 2007, 09:12:55 AM

That was pretty depressing... as was the polar bear who attacks the walrus herd and gets gored, just sort of gives up and lies down... it really strikes home how brutal and unforgiving the animal kingdom is... It's amazing how close animals come to starving every single month/year of their lives and how much of a struggle it really is.
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Reply #796 on: April 11, 2007, 09:18:38 AM

I tried to find that film but I ended up with a much different type of documentary.

I also saw this fantastic documentary on the sociology of womens' prisons.  You should look for that one, too.

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Reply #797 on: April 11, 2007, 09:20:14 AM

That was the most bored I have ever been watching an episode of the Sopranos. The biggest problem for me would be that Janice and his wife are probably my least favorite characters of the show's entire run, and they decided to have them in every fucking scene of that episode. That was the first time I ever actually started fast forwarding while watching a non-repeat show that didn't have commercials.

Oh, and my guess is that in some convoluted manner, Tony ends up killing Carmella himself at the end.

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Reply #798 on: April 11, 2007, 09:38:55 AM

Ya, I've been watching a lot of Discovery HD Theater recently.  That show is fantastic.
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Reply #799 on: April 11, 2007, 10:21:56 AM

I did see this fucking awesome HD documentary about one particular beaver dam that I would suggest to anybody if I could remember the title.  It might just be "beavers."

Beavers 16 was much better.

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Reply #800 on: April 11, 2007, 11:35:13 AM

I did see this fucking awesome HD documentary about one particular beaver dam that I would suggest to anybody if I could remember the title.  It might just be "beavers."
That was an awesome show, I remember it. The one where a bear attacks the lodge at one point?
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Reply #801 on: April 11, 2007, 12:38:17 PM

I did see this fucking awesome HD documentary about one particular beaver dam that I would suggest to anybody if I could remember the title.  It might just be "beavers."
That was an awesome show, I remember it. The one where a bear attacks the lodge at one point?

Yes.  They are pretty incredible little critters.

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Reply #802 on: April 12, 2007, 03:21:08 PM

Lost: Juliet is still in cohorts with Ben after everything that has happened?  Hard to believe.

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Reply #803 on: April 12, 2007, 03:24:51 PM

I did see this fucking awesome HD documentary about one particular beaver dam that I would suggest to anybody if I could remember the title.  It might just be "beavers."
That was an awesome show, I remember it. The one where a bear attacks the lodge at one point?

Yes.  They are pretty incredible little critters.

Best dam movie I ever saw....

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Reply #804 on: April 13, 2007, 07:34:02 AM

Have we mentioned Bullshit is airing new episodes? That took forever imo (and one was on BOOBIES).

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