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Johny Cee
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BSG is one of the better shows on TV, when Olmos isn't on screen. When he is, it becomes something mythic. "Prepare for some turbulence"....
Was running down some Jim Butcher stuff this afternoon, and came across info on "Dresden Files" which is set to air on Scifi in January.
The producer is the guy that brought us Relic Hunter and Mutant X. <shudder> And Nic Cage is a producer.
Maybe I'll skip this in order to not poison my appreciation of the books.
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XboxGod
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I was happy that NBC the last three episodes of Heroes tonight, wish they would have aired the pilot, but at least I got the torrent for that already. Thanks guys ;)
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Nevermore
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BSG + Heroes + Venture Bros. = all the television anyone needs.
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Over and out.
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schild
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Heroes + House + Shark + Grey's Anatomy + Six Degrees + Supernatural = more hours than I have in a week for TV.
math itt
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HaemishM
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How do the producers of Independence Day manage that? Who thought they had it in them to hire the writers capable of it? Hats off. Who are you referring to here? I don't think David Eick, Paul M. Leonard or Ronald D. Moore had anything to do with ID4. You are correct. For some reason, I kept thinking Devlin had something to do with BSG, and he was completely unconnected. Oh well, still a great fucking show. |
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Sky
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The UniversalHD run of BSG is up to the one where the Chief builds the stealth fighter monster-garage-style. I've stuck with it from the first episode and it's starting to grow on me.
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Trippy
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I'm liking Studio 60 more. Hopefully it'll get picked up for the rest of the season.
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Abagadro
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Can we break off a Heros spoiler thread? I have all four hours on my Tivo and haven't caught up yet.
Or is this whole thread considered a spoiler free-for-all?
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Trippy
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Can we break off a Heros spoiler thread? I have all four hours on my Tivo and haven't caught up yet.
Yeah I was just thinking about doing that this afternoon before I stepped out for the evening. Or is this whole thread considered a spoiler free-for-all?
It's kind of hard to make a thread about television shows spoiler-free but I did split the most recent Heroes stuff off on its own. New Heroes thread (with lots of spoilers) |
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Yegolev
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The UniversalHD run of BSG is up to the one....
What? BSG on UHD? Time to find an extra $10 a month, obviously. I watch The Office in HD, but HD is rather wasted there. |
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Cheddar
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I just saw BSG 4th episode. My God.
Greatest. Movie/Show EVER.
I am in AWE.
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No Nerf, but I put a link to this very thread and I said that you all can guarantee for my purity. I even mentioned your case, and see if they can take a look at your lawn from a Michigan perspective.
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stray
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By "Movie/Show" do you mean greatest out of any TV movies, or do you literally mean greatest out of any movies and shows?
Like, is it merely greater than Roots and Lonesome Dove, or is it also greater than Citizen Kane and Belle De Jour?
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stray
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That came off far too serious. Mentioning Catherine Deneuve can in no way be used for friendly jest.
So....
What is the best TV movie anyways?
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Llava
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Back in Community College I decided to take a Screenwriting class, and my teacher made a big deal out of his experience. See, he'd been nominated for an Emmy. As a producer.
What did he produce?
Some shitty made-for-TV movie starring the guy from Quantum Leap (I want to say Scott Bakula was his name).
He showed us a clip. It was Quantum-Leap-Guy crashing a small plane into a lake.
I nominate that for best TV Movie ever.
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Sky
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The UniversalHD run of BSG is up to the one....
What? BSG on UHD? Time to find an extra $10 a month, obviously. I watch The Office in HD, but HD is rather wasted there. Yep, it's in the second season I think. Anyway, the ep I mentioned with Chief building the stealth ship was the latest one. They also just started the first season of Firefly, that's a great show. My film appreciation prof and I used to argue like crazy. We agreed Hitchcock was cool, but he went to school with Brian DePalma and thought he was the best director ever and I was heavy into Kubrick at the time, who he dismissed as a hack. I can't really think of any tv movies, so I'll just say when the Bradys went to Hawai'i. |
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Bunk
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How do the producers of Independence Day manage that? Who thought they had it in them to hire the writers capable of it? Hats off.
I think it's the Canadian influence. (For anyone who doesn't know, it's shot in Vancouver and half the cast is Canadian) |
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Yegolev
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TV movies? Does the Dune serial count? The non-Lynch one?
No no no, wait... The Man with the Screaming Brain.
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Why am I homeless? Why do all you motherfuckers need homes is the real question.
They called it The Prayer, its answer was law
Mommy come back 'cause the water's all gone
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murdoc
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They also just started the first season of Firefly, that's a great show.
Wife and I just ran through the DVD set of Firefly again. She's not a sci-fi fan by any means, but she can't understand how that show "failed" either. Such good stuff. |
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tazelbain
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I am staring to think the name is an issue. Neither firefly nor serenity gives you much of a clue what the show is about or entice you investigate more.
Another thing, big story arcs. Firefly had one. It was pretty good too. But if you watched only one show, you may not even notice it. Needed to make it more obvious. And of course if you are going to big story arcs, show the episodes in order. Duh.
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Abagadro
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The problem with Firefly was primarily the scheduling and how it was jerked around so badly. I am a sci-fi nerd and I never even heard about it until it was off the air from Fox.
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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
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Tale
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Yeah they played the Firefly episodes out-of-order, in differing timeslots, and some episodes were missed (never aired). So what you see now - episodes in order, with a story arc - was not an experience anyone had until the DVD was released, months after the show was cancelled.
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Xanthippe
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Speaking of Firefly/Serenity, are they making more?
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bhodi
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Nope. Josh Whedon (sp?) has said over and over again he is DONE with that universe and would the rabid fans please leave him alone, thanks.
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Abagadro
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He's busy working on Wonder Woman. He should open the license up for books to get all the fanbois off of his back (maybe he already has, I don't follow franchise fiction).
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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
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Tale
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I'd write one.
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Furiously
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I'd write one.
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Morat20
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Nope. Josh Whedon (sp?) has said over and over again he is DONE with that universe and would the rabid fans please leave him alone, thanks.
Well, I feel he's learned his lesson. Maybe next time he won't work for Fox and thus CREATE rabid fans who then feel they've gotten the shaft and have to follow him around, begging for more. I understand Sci-Fi did a bit of gentle checking to see if Fox would part with the rights for new shows (this was before Serenity was released) and Fox said "No". Whedon won't work for Fox anymore (I believe he was quite emphatic about that), Fox won't part with something it suspects is worth money, and I don't think the rights revert to Whedon until something like 2010. Pity, though. Looked like there was a wealth of good stories there. It's been a good decade for decent Sci-Fi. The latter half of DS9, Farscape, Firefly, BSG, the Stargates, the new Dr. Who... Heroes counts too, I'd say. Even Futurama is coming back. Sci-Fi isn't all technobabble and gadgets (hell, that's the lazy side of it). Good sci-fi talks about what it means to be human. What it means to reach. It's ethics, and humanity, and fucking people and I for one was sick and goddamn tired of it just being phasers and teleporters when it came to TV. The Lathe of Heaven's gadgets didn't have a goddamn thing to do with the book, anymore than Sense and Sensibility was about how fucking boring Victorian England was. Dune wasn't about ornithopters or sandworms and Childhood's End was not about "Fucking aliens! In spaceships! Woah!". Goddamn lazy ass writers. I'll take my 13 episodes of Firefly and consider it's death worthwhile if it means future writers have to actually know what the fuck sci-fi is supposed to be because of it. |
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stray
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I've come to the conclusion that Futurama is the greatest sci-fi show ever. I'm glad it's coming back.
Seriously. It seems like my favorite elements and episodes of other sci fi shows is the comedic stuff --- and Futurama is all about being funny. I tend to hate science fiction that takes itself too seriously (I'm looking at you BSG).
And if it isn't overt comedy, at the very least, I like sci fi to have some absurdity to it. Dune (especially the books), what little of Heinlein I've read, Star Trek, Buck Rogers, most comic books, Arnold movies -- all pretty funny on some level.
This might be why I hate fantasy (outside Conan...and some stuff from Warhammer....both of which are funny).
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Llava
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Maybe next time he won't work for Fox and thus CREATE rabid fans who then feel they've gotten the shaft and have to follow him around, begging for more.
Rule #1 of Showbusiness: Never leave them wanting more. Drive off your fans with as much oversaturation as possible. See: George Lucas (That started off ironic and ended up looking true.) |
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I understand Sci-Fi did a bit of gentle checking to see if Fox would part with the rights for new shows (this was before Serenity was released) and Fox said "No". Whedon won't work for Fox anymore (I believe he was quite emphatic about that), Fox won't part with something it suspects is worth money, and I don't think the rights revert to Whedon until something like 2010.
I don't get that. |
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Wolf
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I'm liking Studio 60 more. Hopefully it'll get picked up for the rest of the season.
Apparently not. Studio 60 getting the axe?. That's just sad, I really liked that one :( |
As a matter of fact I swallowed one of these about two hours ago and the explanation is that it is, in fact, my hand.
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Trippy
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I'm liking Studio 60 more. Hopefully it'll get picked up for the rest of the season.
Apparently not. Studio 60 getting the axe?. That's just sad, I really liked that one :( They did order up 3 more episodes but it's unclear if they will be aired -- last night they showed Friday Night Lights intead of Studio 60 but the Web page says they will be back next week so presumably they will show at least one more episode and then decide. |
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Sky
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My DVR was all set to record the office and earl last week, I checked a couple hours beforehand because we went out of town. But it didn't record it. Goddamned technorogy.
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Miasma
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IIRC they were re-runs.
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Morat20
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I understand Sci-Fi did a bit of gentle checking to see if Fox would part with the rights for new shows (this was before Serenity was released) and Fox said "No". Whedon won't work for Fox anymore (I believe he was quite emphatic about that), Fox won't part with something it suspects is worth money, and I don't think the rights revert to Whedon until something like 2010.
I don't get that. I'm not sure what you don't get, but as best I understand the situation: 1) Fox owns the rights to Firefly until something like 2008 or 2010, when they revert to Whedon if Fox doesn't actually make more shows. These are JUST the rights to air new episodes, and only for TV. I think Whedon also has to agree. 2) Whedon owned the non-TV show rights -- so he could sell and produce Serenity. I think Whedon might own the syndication rights. If not, Sci-Fi either bought those rights or paid for the right to air Firefly on Sci-Fi. 3) Whedon won't work for Fox anymore -- period -- so even if Fox said "Okay, I wanna make new episodes of Firefly", Whedon won't do it. Whenever TV shows, movies, books, etc are being created and sold, there's a shit ton of legal crap. Rights to the show, rights to syndication of the show, rights to toys, rights of first refusal to spinoffs of the show, rights to this and rights to that. Whedon -- when he made the deal with Fox to produce Firefly -- gave up as little as possible (I think he still has bad memories of some of the Buffy and Angel shit). |
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