Television thread

[HaemishM]

Hiro is the man, and Heroes is the best show on TV right now. I was practically cheering at the ending they threw in there last night.

Also, Venture Bros. 2-parter was fan-fucking-tastic. They took what was a fairly low-key sardonic show and just threw in everything and the kitchen sink. I can't believe Adult Swim actually considered not renewing that show.

[Yegolev]

Not only is Venture awesome, and the two-parter superb, they love Bowie.  Half his lines were lyrics, and when I pointed out his reply to Brock's direction to start on the second verse, she pointed out that I like Bowie way too much.

Edit: pretty sure the shirtless guy was Iggy Pop but I can't place the other one... although my wife took the obvious one: he's Taco.

[HaemishM]

Yeah, the shirtless one was Iggy Pop, but the Taco guy? Not sure, but Taco is a good guess. Falco maybe?

[Yegolev]

Good ol' Wikipedia says it is Klaus Nomi.  He was a backup singer for Bowie on SNL in 1974.  Awesome.

[tazelbain]

I can't say enough good things about Venture Bros. and BSG.

I am worried Heroes will going south.  There has been a few cheesy things and this "Save the Cheerleader, save the world" thing looks more of the same.

Lost is really pissing me off with their refusal tell us who the Others are.

[HaemishM]

Lost is really pissing me off with their refusal tell us who the Others are.

They are the people charged with making sure no one fucks with the equation on the island. Or something.

[stray]

This last Heroes episode felt shorter than the others.

Also, like all of you, I'm really liking it, but I just realized how slow this storyline is developing. It's only now in the 4th episode where more characters are actually meeting and interacting with each other.

And I still don't know what's going on.

Is this going to be an X-Files thing or what (i.e. Mulder still on the search for his sister 6 seasons in)?

[HaemishM]

The creators of Heroes has already said get comfortable for an epic. I'm thinking more like Babylon 5 than X-Files, since it probably has a structure of beginning, middle and end (or will) whereas X-Files just lost its way after season 4 and never did wrap the story up with any clarity.

[Merusk]

The creators of Heroes has already said get comfortable for an epic. I'm thinking more like Babylon 5 than X-Files, since it probably has a structure of beginning, middle and end (or will) whereas X-Files just lost its way after season 4 and never did wrap the story up with any clarity.

X-files last episode (or was it 2) wrapped everything up nicely.  I hadden't caught anything out of the Robert Patrick season, and I was able to follow just fine.   Cancer man explained it all, Scully heard we were all fucked, found Mulder and they waited for the inevitable in a Motel room as Cancer man was blown to bits by an Apache.  The End.

[HaemishM]

That was not a good wrap up at all. It felt completely unfinished to me. It was like that was the halfway point of the story, not the end. Great, there's an alien invasion in 2012 and we're all fucked. That's it? Weak sauce.

[XboxGod]

Lost is really pissing me off with their refusal tell us who the Others are.

They are the people charged with making sure no one fucks with the equation on the island. Or something.

Ok, that video really confused me. Not trying to look too stupid here, but was that released by ABC or something?

[Triforcer]

I still enjoy Smallville (six seasons going strong).  Season 5 and 6 (so far) seem to be getting away from the "Kryptonite infected angsty emo kid kidnaps Lana and Clark throws him through a wall in the three second window Lana is looking away" theme.  The show has been written well pretty consistently and I've never found a reason to stop watching. 

[Sky]

I stopped watching when they introduced an actual Lois instead of that being Chloe's pen name. I liked that it was Lana and Clark, but you always knew he'd end up with Chloe. The show itself was meh aside from that triangular tension, once they blew that I had had enough.

[HaemishM]

Lost is really pissing me off with their refusal tell us who the Others are.

They are the people charged with making sure no one fucks with the equation on the island. Or something.

Ok, that video really confused me. Not trying to look too stupid here, but was that released by ABC or something?

It was part of some web marketing push they put out before the season 3 began. It was split up into 5 or 6 different pieces and someone put it all together. It doesn't answer a lot, but you can infer a bit from it.

[Merusk]

That was not a good wrap up at all. It felt completely unfinished to me. It was like that was the halfway point of the story, not the end. Great, there's an alien invasion in 2012 and we're all fucked. That's it? Weak sauce.

Yep, that's it.  We're all doomed, end of story, fade to black.  Congrats, you spent the last 6 seasons enjoying, not a heroic epic, but a tale of future doom. No happy ending here for you, anything you do is futile.

X-files always enjoyed the gloomy endings.  Just look at the poor Lone Gunmen.


Of course, I'm also one of the folks who hopes when Jordan writes his last book everyone fails, the Shadow wins, the end.  I like dark endings.

[Trippy]

30 Rock is showing promise.

Also there's a three hour Heroes marathon on Sunday starting at 8/7c for those who missed them.

[XboxGod]

Lost is really pissing me off with their refusal tell us who the Others are.

They are the people charged with making sure no one fucks with the equation on the island. Or something.

Ok, that video really confused me. Not trying to look too stupid here, but was that released by ABC or something?

It was part of some web marketing push they put out before the season 3 began. It was split up into 5 or 6 different pieces and someone put it all together. It doesn't answer a lot, but you can infer a bit from it.

Thank you, I'll have to watch it again with that in mind.

[tazelbain]

Locke is getting ridiculous.   It wouldn't surprise me to see him buy a pet turtle and then in the next scene watch the turtle betray him.

[Tebonas]

So I see you've hit the spoilers too, tazelbain!

But seriously, there are suckers that fall for everything and therefore get conned more than other people. The Sawyers of this world can smell the Lockes of this world miles against the wind. Thats one of the more believable things in Lost.

[Sky]

But seriously, there are suckers that fall for everything and therefore get conned more than other people.

We call them Bush supporters.   

[tazelbain]

Oh, and if a friend comes over, sees that you have a lot of fertilizer and offers to help you blow something up, that's not a time to laugh.

[Bunk]

After that subway scene I have decided I shall now refer to him as Hiro Protagonist.

[HaemishM]

After that subway scene I have decided I shall now refer to him as Hiro Protagonist.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. That shit rocked the house.

[Xerapis]

I just watched episode 4 of BSG.

I'm in awe.

There's just no other way to put it.

I was actually jumping out of my chair and yelling.  In a good way! ^^

Truly powerful television show.

[Surlyboi]

I will cut and paste possibly the best quote summing up last night's BSG over on TWoP.

Adama jumped the entire fucking Battlestar into atmosphere.
What? What? Who does that?
I'm fairly certain that voids the hell out of the warranty. I'm fairly certain there's little red and yellow stickers on the underside of Galactica that say:
"Warning, Do Not Plow Into Some Planet's Unsuspecting Stratosphere Like The World's Grimmest And Most Heavily Armored Fat Kid Jumping Into A Pool Full Of People He Hates Screaming Cannonball With A Grenade In His Teeth, Yeah, We're Talking To You Adama, 'Cause Jesus Christ."
If I'm a Humlon, and I look out of the window of my compound and see this... psychotic act of badassery, in my heart I know we're just never going to subjugate or defeat these people.

Amen. Best show on TV? Battlestar Fucking Galactica.

[Cheddar]

I will cut and paste possibly the best quote summing up last night's BSG over on TWoP.

Adama jumped the entire fucking Battlestar into atmosphere.
What? What? Who does that?
I'm fairly certain that voids the hell out of the warranty. I'm fairly certain there's little red and yellow stickers on the underside of Galactica that say:
"Warning, Do Not Plow Into Some Planet's Unsuspecting Stratosphere Like The World's Grimmest And Most Heavily Armored Fat Kid Jumping Into A Pool Full Of People He Hates Screaming Cannonball With A Grenade In His Teeth, Yeah, We're Talking To You Adama, 'Cause Jesus Christ."
If I'm a Humlon, and I look out of the window of my compound and see this... psychotic act of badassery, in my heart I know we're just never going to subjugate or defeat these people.

Thanks for the spoiler, asshole.

Amen. Best show on TV? Battlestar Fucking Galactica.

[Merusk]

Even knowing what happened, it's badass.   I watched it the second time just to see it again. 

[Jayce]

Even knowing what happened, it's badass.   I watched it the second time just to see it again. 

Me too. I never watch the epidodes of anything we DVR really, but I fast forwarded to this to check it out again.

I also like how every other SF show/movie has to come up with this huge justification as to why they have to leave the atmosphere/system to jump to light speed.  BSG?  Hover 5 feet off the ground, jump.  Sweet.

[Numtini]

If Michael Hogan (Tigh) doesn't win the Emmy, they might as well just close up shop and forget about the whole thing.

(Unless they give it to James Callis-Gaius)

[Yegolev]

You assume the Academy hands out things based on merit.

[Llava]

Think he means they should shut down the Emmys.

Which they should anyways.

[stray]

You corrected Yegolev, and I correct you:

Numtini is a she.

[HaemishM]

Yeah, that BSG episode kicked all kinds of ass, especially the jump in atmosphere bit. Talk about a nut clenching moment. How do you top that? This season is going to have to work hard as hell to ramp up the tension, because that was just spectacular. I have to tip my hat to these guys. It was a huge narrative risk to jump the timeframe a year forward, even more of a risk to break up the dynamics that existed by splitting up the characters and putting them on the underside of a repressive society. And they pulled it off.

How do the producers of Independence Day manage that? Who thought they had it in them to hire the writers capable of it? Hats off.

[Llava]

You corrected Yegolev, and I correct you:

Numtini is a she.

Fuck, I keep forgetting.

Girls should stop using the Internet to make things less confusing.

[Abagadro]

How do the producers of Independence Day manage that? Who thought they had it in them to hire the writers capable of it? Hats off.

Who are you referring to here? I don't think David Eick, Paul M. Leonard or Ronald D. Moore had anything to do with ID4.