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Reply #105 on: June 19, 2006, 02:53:37 PM

The bridge should have fallen apart as soon as he started moving it. I have seen the Galloping Gerty video too often to not believe that.

Also- if Magneto was so cavalier about mutants dying to furthe his cause, why not tear Wolverine apart? There is tissue between the parts of the adamantium skeleton- just sent him into about 8 pieces and see if he can regen THEN. Same with Collosus- why not grab the big oaf, bounce him off all the rest of the mutants, and then sink him to the bottom of the bay?


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Reply #106 on: June 19, 2006, 03:56:02 PM

I finally saw it this weekend, too.

Collosus could turn his armor off to avoid Magneto.  It would become a game of reflexes, although it would be a good opportunity for others to jump him.  The logical use of powers was one of the gaping plot holes.

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Reply #107 on: June 19, 2006, 06:49:28 PM

I saw one bit in a comic where something tricked Kitty Pryde into remaining unphased (can't remember why that trick), then threw Colossus at her, which made him reflexively go flesh so as not to kill her on impact, and then it hurled a large spike at 'em and impaled them both.  Clever timing and a good trap.

Course, they survived the impaling.

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Reply #108 on: June 19, 2006, 08:48:51 PM

Also- if Magneto was so cavalier about mutants dying to furthe his cause, why not tear Wolverine apart? There is tissue between the parts of the adamantium skeleton- just sent him into about 8 pieces and see if he can regen THEN. Same with Collosus- why not grab the big oaf, bounce him off all the rest of the mutants, and then sink him to the bottom of the bay?
Magneto "leeched" out Wolverine's adamantium in the comic books. Of course he still had (bone) claws after that... shocked (retcon alert!)
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Reply #109 on: June 20, 2006, 03:52:20 AM

IT WAS A BAD FILM.

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Reply #110 on: June 20, 2006, 03:55:04 AM

IRONWOOD, IT'S NOT OUR FAULT YOU SAW FAST & THE FURIOUS: TOKYO DRIFT INSTEAD OF XMEN, OK?

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Edit: Trippy, I will never EVER forget the frame where Wolverine let the bone claws out for the first time. it's burned into the back of my head as the most fucked up thing ever in a comic book targeted towards, well, kids. I was I think 12 or 11 when that came out. Maybe I was older. Whatever. I still remember the frame. Blech.
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Reply #111 on: June 20, 2006, 03:55:22 AM

One thing I always wanted to know. How was the film Ironwood?
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Reply #112 on: June 20, 2006, 04:06:15 AM

IRONWOOD, IT'S NOT OUR FAULT YOU SAW FAST & THE FURIOUS: TOKYO DRIFT INSTEAD OF XMEN, OK?

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Edit: Trippy, I will never EVER forget the frame where Wolverine let the bone claws out for the first time. it's burned into the back of my head as the most fucked up thing ever in a comic book targeted towards, well, kids. I was I think 12 or 11 when that came out. Maybe I was older. Whatever. I still remember the frame. Blech.


Speaking of Retcon and whatnot - That Panel was particularly iconic if you read 'Origin' and consider how deeply traumatised the young man was when bone claws first popped out of his hands and, well, impaled someone after seeing the death of his father.  I always look at that panel and think "Yup, there he is.  The big poopy has regressed to childhood again".

Also, I think that the 'leeching' scene was a little more disturbing - silver wormies wriggling out from under Wolverines skin.  Let's face it, the whole thing was shock and awe.

PS - It wasn't that good Teb.

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Reply #113 on: June 20, 2006, 10:31:01 PM

I'd agree that the Phoenix stuff felt...tacked on...or somehow mostly irrelevant to the rest of the movie.  I also agree that lack of the logical use of the mutants' powers was one of the main flaws.  Where were the really *awesome* uses of power like in X2 when Magneto molds the iron filings into a platform for him to levitate on and the rest into little bullets?  Moving the golden gate bridge?  Shocking perhaps, but even completely disregarding structural issues, not exactly the best use of Magneto's power.  Also the personality swings with Magneto...  He cares about mutants, but callously abandons Mystique completely, but feels bad about Professor X's death, and isn't willing to kill Wolverine, but sends in his followers first to get shot with the cure, etc?  He's very inconsistent.

The movie's not bad if you don't think about it too much, but if you do much thinking....it has a lot wrong with it.  If there is a 4, I really hope they handle things better.

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Reply #114 on: June 21, 2006, 02:04:46 PM

The only thing that killed me about that whole stupid bridge moving sceen was when he was moving it the time appeared to be late afternoon. When they got around to wandering off the bridge it was clearly late night. WTF how slow are you guys and if it takes that long why not just um STEAL A BOAT.

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Reply #115 on: June 21, 2006, 10:31:01 PM

That was some sort of editing/production goof.

I also read that there was a scene where Storm caused a tidal wave that got cut out because of a similar goof, somehow it didn't fit with the rest of the scene composition.

The movie was a rush-job and it showed.

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Reply #116 on: June 22, 2006, 03:35:10 PM

I didn't really care about the whole bridge stability thing, what bugged me was  - why not just dump the whole thing on top of the research center and be done with all of it. Too much inconsistency in the name of "big stunts".


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Reply #117 on: June 23, 2006, 08:48:53 AM

Speaking from the point of view of a computer graphics student, I loved the bridge scene. It must have been really fun to do.
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Reply #118 on: June 30, 2006, 12:14:39 AM

why not just dump the whole thing on top of the research center and be done with all of it.

Or more efficiently, rip every reinforcement bar out of the building, thus causing immediate structural collapse and crushing everyone within.  Simple, effective, and possibly the most efficient use of power Magneto could have thrown at the situation.

Of course, there are very, very, very few movies or other stories, for that matter, that cannot be broken with a little liberal application of thinking and logic.

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