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Broughden
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on: May 18, 2006, 01:50:50 PM

Hey if anyone here is still playing....

A family member of mine still playing says that the latest CT_Raid mod no longer allows mana conservation on healing, by setting a healing threshold as you once could. Is this true? If so has anyone found a work around I could pass on to them?
If its not true how do you do it in the latest CT_Raid add-on so I could pass the info on to them.

Thanks! smiley

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Reply #1 on: May 18, 2006, 01:59:46 PM

Learn2heal.

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Reply #2 on: May 18, 2006, 02:12:30 PM

Yep, that's pretty much it... Blizzard made the change so that people could not use overhealing mods and would have to avoid overhealing on their own.

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Reply #3 on: May 18, 2006, 02:33:59 PM

The best you can do now is make a handy stopspellcasting macro.
Broughden
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Reply #4 on: May 18, 2006, 02:58:00 PM

Yep, that's pretty much it... Blizzard made the change so that people could not use overhealing mods and would have to avoid overhealing on their own.

Oh it was a change in Blizzard's coding that they released in a patch that stopped it? Huh.

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Reply #5 on: May 18, 2006, 03:33:43 PM

Having switched from raiding Horde side to raiding Alliance side I can say that (so far) Alliance should never have issues with mana. Ever. If you're playing Horde, well...
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Reply #6 on: May 18, 2006, 04:05:02 PM

The best you can do now is make a handy stopspellcasting macro.

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Seriously.

Yep, that's pretty much it... Blizzard made the change so that people could not use overhealing mods and would have to avoid overhealing on their own.

Oh it was a change in Blizzard's coding that they released in a patch that stopped it? Huh.

Yep, there were some function calls that they change from open-use to Blizzard-only or somesuch backend nonsense.  It's not too big a deal if you're paying attention, and honestly it's made healing a bit more interactive.  I'll admit to cheesing a few runs just by sitting back and tapping flash heal while watching TV. 

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Reply #7 on: May 18, 2006, 04:22:07 PM

Bind stopspellcasting to something close at hand- I have a button on my mouse that does very nicely.  You have to pay attention more, but it works out.
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Reply #8 on: May 18, 2006, 06:46:53 PM

It took me a while to get used to living without Mana Conserve. But in the end it worked out for the best since I started hotkeying more then one rank of my healing touch for raidhealing. I now for a larger total then I did before, and I hardly ever run out of mana exluding some real endurance fights with a few bosses.

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Reply #9 on: May 18, 2006, 10:59:43 PM

Or just roll a pally, get one of those mechanical nodding birds (as long as they peck every 1.5s) and aim it at your "/decursive; /quickheal" macro where /quickheal casts flash of light rank 6 on the MT. Then autofollow someone and click the buff hotkey every 15 mins.

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« Last Edit: May 18, 2006, 11:40:39 PM by Zetor »

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Reply #10 on: May 19, 2006, 12:35:10 AM

We use

http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=755

in our guild. Works pretty well. It will automatically select a lower rank spell if a full one is overkill. and simply press the heal button again to cancel a spell in progres.


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Reply #11 on: May 19, 2006, 02:49:37 AM

Good! Might be fun to play again if every other healer didn't brag how good the computer heals for them. Really, retards can be proud of anything.

Edit: Just logged in and talked with my old guildies. Of course there are still enough of those add ins working. Damn!
« Last Edit: May 19, 2006, 07:14:25 AM by Tebonas »
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Reply #12 on: May 19, 2006, 07:03:10 AM

Why even play the damn game?  Mods like this and decursive both >_<
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Reply #13 on: May 20, 2006, 12:22:56 AM

No mod can substitute for an intelligent player who has good judgement when healing. Mana conservation mods are like bibs for people who dribble when they drink.

I was glad to see the back of the CTRaid mana conservation sliders. As a druid, the fact that you could only set it to one level for Healing Touch encouraged people to only use their big level 60 heals, which is simply bad play. I had already abandoned the CTRaid conservation settings in favour of rank 4, rank 6 and rank 10 healing touch. Learning to use that kind of variety chosen based on your +healing and +mana/5sec gear, is vital if you want to make the most of your mana.

Multiple smaller heals with the occasional large heal or HoT, and keeping people topped up instead of waiting till they get low, is a mana-efficient way to heal, especially when looking after a tank in a long fight. Heals are easily cancelled by moving. And even if you are about to land a mana-inefficient heal, it is sometimes better to let it go through instead of having it cancelled automatically, if you anticipate a damage spike and no other heals incoming. It's part art, part science.

[edit] I don't have a problem with decursive - it makes up for an unfriendly UI when trying to find and cure cursed/poisoned people. If the interface made it more practical to do manually, I'd reconsider.
« Last Edit: May 20, 2006, 12:28:22 AM by Tale »
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Reply #14 on: May 20, 2006, 01:33:29 AM

Decursive has its pros and cons.  A good Decursive type mod can be configured with all sorts of priority settings to maximize efficiency of decursing, but people should really practice manually decursing.

The biggest disadvantage i find in manual decursing is that selecting someone who is out of range for decurse is a pain in the ass, and it is often difficult to  locate other players in spread out decursing situations.  Add in the need to drop target, find someone in range, decurse them, and then re aquire target manually, it can make you glad for decursive addons.

Still, I have my CT raid set up with prophiles for each character i play (Mainly mage and Druid), set so that if a debuff i can cure lands on someone, their raid tab turns bright red.  set up with easily distinguishable colours, and you should be fine for mousing around to grab people.

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Reply #15 on: May 20, 2006, 07:02:53 AM

It's all a crutch really. Especially that spell alert nonsense.

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