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Reply #1225 on: April 18, 2008, 01:59:44 AM

Saw 88 Minutes at the 12:01 show tonight, and was most pleasantly surprised.

If you like action/thriller/mysteryish movies go see it, it's been awhile since I could sit down and watch a movie without knowing the outcome and whodonit no later than the halfway point, this one..and I hate to sound like a hack critic, but it really does.... keep you guessing.
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Reply #1226 on: April 18, 2008, 02:37:38 AM

Saw 88 Minutes at the 12:01 show tonight, and was most pleasantly surprised.

If you like action/thriller/mysteryish movies go see it, it's been awhile since I could sit down and watch a movie without knowing the outcome and whodonit no later than the halfway point, this one..and I hate to sound like a hack critic, but it really does.... keep you guessing.

Ugh... I had to test run it the other night and thought it was pretty bad.  That some theaters had midnight showings of it, and that some people actually went to them boggles the mind.  The plot not only requires Pacino's character to react to the situation he's in, in completely unbelievable ways, but it also requires the villain to be able to predict his every reaction and movement, occasionally to nearly the exact minute.  It's a rediculously bad movie with a laughable "climax".

I had to watch Forgetting Sarah Marshall tonight.  It had it share of funny moments, but also a lot of scenes that were just annoying or cringe inducing to sit through.  Very uneven movie, this one.  Nice seeing Mila Kunis though in a role as an actually likeable character.
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Reply #1227 on: April 18, 2008, 04:39:21 AM

As opposed to American Psycho 2? ;)
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Reply #1228 on: April 18, 2008, 02:10:01 PM

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Ugh... I had to test run it the other night and thought it was pretty bad.  That some theaters had midnight showings of it, and that some people actually went to them boggles the mind.  The plot not only requires Pacino's character to react to the situation he's in, in completely unbelievable ways, but it also requires the villain to be able to predict his every reaction and movement, occasionally to nearly the exact minute.  It's a rediculously bad movie with a laughable "climax".

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Well, if you ignore all of that, it's pretty good, I go to the movies to be entertained, and while the climax may have been laughable, at least I didn't see it coming from 45 minutes.
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Reply #1229 on: April 18, 2008, 02:37:44 PM

Well, if you ignore all of that, it's pretty good, I go to the movies to be entertained, and while the climax may have been laughable, at least I didn't see it coming from 45 minutes.

I saw at least part of it coming for most of the movie.  The only question for me was whether or not multiple people were in on it.  Also, this movie is currently sitting at 6% on rotten tomatoes apparently (5% if you're just looking at the top critics).
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Reply #1230 on: April 18, 2008, 02:38:37 PM

Are we talking "laughable climax" like Michael Douglas in "The Game"? Because while outlandishly impossible I still enjoy the ride.

If we're talking "laughable climax" like Johnny Depp in "The 9th Gate," then I want no part of it.

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Reply #1231 on: April 18, 2008, 02:50:29 PM

Are we talking "laughable climax" like Michael Douglas in "The Game"? Because while outlandishly impossible I still enjoy the ride.

If we're talking "laughable climax" like Johnny Depp in "The 9th Gate," then I want no part of it.

To me it was laughable in that the person revealed to be responsible for everything at no point seems like any sort of credible threat.  The "tension" during the scene is that this person is threatening the life of a character we've only seen on screen for a few minutes and thus have no real emotional investment in whether this character lives or dies.  Also the villain is taken out due to a lack of forsight that Pacino might have possibly told the police or other FBI agents that he was given the specific location of where he was going to meet the murderer.
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Reply #1232 on: April 18, 2008, 04:21:52 PM

So, it's stupid, but at least the Devil shows up at the end? That would be somewhere in between.

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Reply #1233 on: April 19, 2008, 03:40:31 PM

Forbidden Kingdom wasn't so bad.  Jet Li was actually very enjoyable and it was interesting to see him smile and laugh.  Mirthful as the Monkey King.  Jackie Chan reliving the Drunken Master days was a hoot.  Central storyline is porn for every white guy that wants to be Asian by execution of overall plot feels sloppy.

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Reply #1234 on: April 20, 2008, 12:02:37 AM

Saw Expelled.  Great movie if you love straw men, non sequiturs, appeals to emotion, appeals to authority, red herrings and Godwin's Law.

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Reply #1235 on: April 20, 2008, 01:03:08 AM

Holy shit, I like *all* of those things, please tell me it also has cake?!   DRILLING AND MANLINESS
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Reply #1236 on: April 20, 2008, 01:13:52 AM

No cake.

There is a visit to a coffee shop, but they don't purchase any pastries.

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Reply #1237 on: April 20, 2008, 07:20:55 AM

Saw Expelled.  Great movie if you love straw men, non sequiturs, appeals to emotion, appeals to authority, red herrings and Godwin's Law.

Have not seen, but this SCIAM article pegs it as pretty disingenuous without even getting into the content…

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It was with some irony for me, then, that I saw Ben Stein's antievolution documentary film, Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed, opens with the actor, game show host and speechwriter for Richard Nixon addressing a packed audience of adoring students at Pepperdine University, apparently falling for the same trap I did.

Actually they didn't. The biology professors at Pepperdine assure me that their mostly Christian students fully accept the theory of evolution. So who were these people embracing Stein's screed against science? Extras. According to Lee Kats, associate provost for research and chair of natural science at Pepperdine, "the production company paid for the use of the facility just as all other companies do that film on our campus" but that "the company was nervous that they would not have enough people in the audience so they brought in extras. Members of the audience had to sign in and a staff member reports that no more than two to three Pepperdine students were in attendance. Mr. Stein's lecture on that topic was not an event sponsored by the university." And this is one of the least dishonest parts of the film.

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Reply #1238 on: April 20, 2008, 09:43:42 AM

Honestly, I knew it was going to be awful.  But I really hoped that maybe, somewhere in there, there'd be a crumb of an argument I haven't already heard.  That maybe they'd actually uncovered a shred of evidence to support their claims.

Also, knowing the blatantly dishonest genesis of this film, I considered not going so as to avoid giving the creators any money.  But I decided that it's a good thing if these guys keep making movies, because it forces them to take a position.  Positions can be countered and discredited.  But with blogs and interviews on Fox, they can keep dancing and avoid trying to state any facts that might be wrong, and they can control the discussion online (as they often do on their own blogs).

This, at least, is a step toward educating the public on why it's invalid.

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Reply #1239 on: April 20, 2008, 04:55:51 PM

Just saw 88 minutes - and it sucked. I mean if you can turn your brain off I suppose it's better than being bored at the house, but mein gott.
First, I really have to address Pacino's hair. That's right his fucking hair. Even if it IS thinning, he looks like he's had it teased out to within 9 inches of drag queen nirvana by Billy Idol's gay lover.

Second, they do a terrible job trying to make you wonder who the killer is. I wont spoil it, but if you couldn't see this one coming you're on crystal meth and huffing at the same time.

Must be nice for Al to be padding his retirement account with crap roles like DeNiro's been doing. 10 of these at 10 mil each and he's got another 100 mil to blow through.
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Reply #1240 on: April 20, 2008, 06:08:34 PM

Apaprently 88 Minutes was so bad that it was released in South America months ago and just sat on shelves on the US until they found a good weekend to dump it off.

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Reply #1241 on: April 21, 2008, 07:42:39 PM

I thought Forgetting Sarah Marshall was really good. I'd put it over Knocked Up, even with Superbad and just below 40YOV in the Apatow oeuvre.

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Reply #1242 on: April 21, 2008, 10:23:38 PM

Hmm! Well I respect your opinion Ab. Gotta see it now, I guess.

Good Actors in bad movies:

"The Mist" is some funny shit. Well, kind of. How the hell did they get Marcia Gay Harden in a straight to vid flick (really weird to see an actress like that dealing with B quality content... Although she was actually really good with it)? Uh, I think it's straight to vid at least. Don't remember that playing in theaters.

I watched "Revolver" with some friends the other night -- that's gotta be the worst piece of shit I've seen in quite some time. And the sad thing is, unlike Marcia, Ray Liotta is the worst thing about it (he's also orange).
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Reply #1243 on: April 21, 2008, 10:36:58 PM

"The Mist" is some funny shit. Well, kind of. How the hell did they get Marcia Gay Harden in a straight to vid flick (really weird to see an actress like that dealing with B quality content... Although she was actually really good with it)? Uh, I think it's straight to vid at least. Don't remember that playing in theaters.

See above for my story of seeing this in theaters.

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Reply #1244 on: April 21, 2008, 11:01:45 PM

Apaprently 88 Minutes was so bad that it was released in South America months ago and just sat on shelves on the US until they found a good weekend to dump it off.

Probably longer then that.  I've had my copy on DVD for like a year now.... was so bored with it I never even finished it.
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Reply #1245 on: April 22, 2008, 12:41:01 AM

"The Mist" is some funny shit. Well, kind of. How the hell did they get Marcia Gay Harden in a straight to vid flick (really weird to see an actress like that dealing with B quality content... Although she was actually really good with it)? Uh, I think it's straight to vid at least. Don't remember that playing in theaters.

See above for my story of seeing this in theaters.

Ah yeah, I forgot you mentioned that.

The funniest part to me was when those pterodactyl/alien things invaded the market. They finally got one down, and then everyone proceeded to go after the other. Except Tom Jane. He just stood there and beat it's burning carcass with a stick for like 5 minutes. He was like the most capable guy there, so wtf? The whole place was in a panic, and it just kept flashing to him in background flipping out on that thing.
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Reply #1246 on: April 22, 2008, 05:52:20 AM

Honestly, I knew it was going to be awful.  But I really hoped that maybe, somewhere in there, there'd be a crumb of an argument I haven't already heard.  That maybe they'd actually uncovered a shred of evidence to support their claims.

Not to get into an ID debate, but this is why it shouldn't be taught. There is no evidence for or against it.

Also, I agree with Haem, Knocked Up wasn't as good as I hoped it would be. I have kids and I still didn't get it. In fact, having kids was a strike against it because I reacted with horror to the thought of Seth Rogen's character as a father. And like Haem, I didn't buy into the relationship between the main characters like...ever. For the entire movie.

I'm not sure if I'll see Sarah Marshall or not. Kristen Bell in bikini=hot. Main actor full frontal for several minutes=not.


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Reply #1247 on: April 22, 2008, 08:02:37 AM

Not sure why some of you comment about the relationship being unrealistic. I mean, there wasn't a relationship. Not until the end. They screwed on a drunk night, and then tried to make the best of a mistake. And that's why the movie is so fucking funny -- how they were futilely trying to tolerate each other. The entire premise of the movie is that they couldn't have a relationship. When they finally do, it's after a whole bunch of soul searching, and realizing just how important the kid was, etc.. So it was a feelgood ending, sure.. But that's believable to me.

Or if you're simply talking about the "she's hot and he's not" thing, then 1) that's also why it's funny and 2) grow up.
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Reply #1248 on: April 22, 2008, 08:22:27 AM

Not sure why some of you comment about the relationship being unrealistic. I mean, there wasn't a relationship. Not until the end. They screwed on a drunk night, and then tried to make the best of a mistake. And that's why the movie is so fucking funny -- how they were futilely trying to tolerate each other. The entire premise of the movie is that they couldn't have a relationship. When they finally do, it's after a whole bunch of soul searching, and realizing just how important the kid was, etc.. So it was a feelgood ending, sure.. But that's believable to me.

Or if you're simply talking about the "she's hot and he's not" thing, then 1) that's also why it's funny and 2) grow up.

I always thought it was because she was so plastered.
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Reply #1249 on: April 22, 2008, 09:08:00 AM

Or if you're simply talking about the "she's hot and he's not" thing, then 1) that's also why it's funny and 2) grow up.

For me it wasn't about looks so much as she's a person with a good job and a good family, he's a stoner who is barely making ends meet. The only parts of the movie I truly enjoyed were the parts with Paul Rudd and her sister.

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Reply #1250 on: April 22, 2008, 09:18:41 AM

Oh, in that case, that happens quite a bit. Especially at the age they were supposed to be (early-ish 20's). I know a couple of err...couples like that. Hell dude, I'll freely admit that I myself am not that much better off (although I'm not a stoner anymore).
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Reply #1251 on: April 22, 2008, 09:32:12 AM

The only parts of the movie I truly enjoyed were the parts with Paul Rudd and her sister.

Because they were brilliant.
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Reply #1252 on: April 22, 2008, 07:05:10 PM

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Main actor full frontal for several minutes=not.

He is naked for a long time in the scene but his doodle is only seen very briefly if it makes any difference.


EDIT: Rudd is also awesome in Sarah Marshall BTW.
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Reply #1253 on: April 23, 2008, 08:20:36 AM

The full frontal is a bit weird.

First you get a full FLASH!

Then, just when you're talking to your wife about "holy crap, did they just do that?"

BOOM! They do it again, for a shorter time, but with more effect.

wait

wait

QUICK flash one more time - and that makes you laugh. At least it made me laugh.

Overall the whole movie was really good. And I'd put it just below 40YOV. I still can't decide whether Mila or Kristen is hotter.
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Reply #1254 on: April 23, 2008, 08:23:14 AM

Can't be as bad as Walk Hard's full frontal.

Hell, that was so bad that I think even a gay guy wouldn't like that.
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Reply #1255 on: April 23, 2008, 10:07:04 AM

Just starting watching Star Trek II again. I'm running out of library wink But jeezus this is still far and away the best of all Star Trek movies. There's not even a Empire Strikes Back vs Return of the Jedi minus Ewoks debate here. I might like First Contact second best, but it's a very distant second. And I haven't been a fan of trek in going on six years. What happened to my license!?!
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Reply #1256 on: April 23, 2008, 10:19:56 AM

Wrath of Khan is just one of the best sci-fi flicks period. Good all around action flick, great villain, cool Billy Idol costuming, Shatner's overacting at it's best, etc..

I, too, place First Contact in second.
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Reply #1257 on: April 23, 2008, 11:39:29 AM

Just starting watching Star Trek II again. I'm running out of library wink But jeezus this is still far and away the best of all Star Trek movies. There's not even a Empire Strikes Back vs Return of the Jedi minus Ewoks debate here. I might like First Contact second best, but it's a very distant second. And I haven't been a fan of trek in going on six years. What happened to my license!?!

The only place I might differ is in my 2nd place choice. I have a hard time choosing between the Undiscovered Country and First Contact. Something about that final battle with the Shakespeare quoting Klingon gets me every time.

Though neither of them are able to hold a candle to Wrath of Khan. It's the only Trek movie I own.

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Reply #1258 on: April 23, 2008, 12:29:49 PM

I like Star Trek 6 the best after 2.

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Reply #1259 on: April 23, 2008, 01:11:22 PM

I hate Star Trek

Have you tried the internet? It's made out of millions of people missing the point of everything and then getting angry about it
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