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Ironwood
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Heh. I just had the strangest mental image of the guy writing it 'shakeycam' with his hand wandering all over the page. Ink everywhere.
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Sorry, I laughed.
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Shaky cam was ridiculously overused, but I enjoyed the hell out of the movie anyways. However, I have a question for those of you who have seen it- wtf was Julia Stiles (Nicky) talking about when she intimated that Bourne had previous contact with her? She didn't show up in any of the flashbacks, did she? It seems like they put that in there and then dropped it. There really should have been a 5 minute fully frontal nude flashback scene from Bourne's POV to tie up the loose ends.  |
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Chenghiz
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So has the 4th bourne book been written?
Apparently the next two have been, though not by the original author. Were the first three any good? wtf was Julia Stiles (Nicky) talking about when she intimated that Bourne had previous contact with her? As I recall the CIA had her contact him in person in (I think) Berlin in the second movie, since she had been one of his handlers. [edit] I liked the movie too though the fact that they apparently decided that handheld cameras were the way to go for every shot was kind of annoying. |
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WayAbvPar
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I read the first book just before the first movie came out. It was decent, and I plan to read the next two eventually. Judging by how faithful the movie was to the first book, I don't think I will have anything spoiled for me from the other two movies.
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Venkman
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The three books are pretty good, but they follow the fairly standard Ludlum formula. I've read all of them and I swear I can't remember the differences between them. Except Icarus Agenda. That book fucking rocked, for some reason. Maybe if I read it again it'd suck, but I remember liking it so much I read it twice more in the same 18 months. While ago though.
I only read the first of the two followup books and I think it didn't suck. Eric Lustbader's got a different style though, from Ludlum's classic rapid-sequence-action stuff. There's probably a term for that narrative device, but there are times when a Ludlum book reads like a Greengrass shaky cam. It's all about fast. See him! No, left! Man with mustache, Uzi under table! Quick, door, out! Run! Walk! Hide! Brickwall, get code!
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DraconianOne
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wtf was Julia Stiles (Nicky) talking about when she intimated that Bourne had previous contact with her? As I recall the CIA had her contact him in person in (I think) Berlin in the second movie, since she had been one of his handlers. She was in Bourne Identity as the assistant in the Paris operation and then was brought back in to help find him in Bourne Supremacy so Stiles has been in both films and had scenes with Matt Damon in both too. |
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Simond
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Random thought: the trailer for 'The Dark is Rising' makes me want to maim people. |
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MrHat
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Random thought: the trailer for 'The Dark is Rising' makes me want to maim people. That looked...formulaic? |
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Engels
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No shit. This movie is going to suck. First of all, its set in the wrong fucking county. The danged series is loosely based on Arthurian legends, so how the heck is it going to be set in the USA? Its particularly obscene to me primarily because with such a bad movie, kids won't be inclined to read the series.
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Simond
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No shit. This movie is going to suck. First of all, its set in the wrong fucking county. To be exact, the book is set about a mile and a half from where I was born*. As my previous post might imply, I'm mildly upset. (* Yes, there really is an Oldway Lane, a Huntercombe Manor, and so on) |
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Riggswolfe
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No shit. This movie is going to suck. First of all, its set in the wrong fucking county. The danged series is loosely based on Arthurian legends, so how the heck is it going to be set in the USA? Its particularly obscene to me primarily because with such a bad movie, kids won't be inclined to read the series.
Actually, I think they left it set in England but made the main character American. The official line is that it is to highlight his loneliness, though I suspect there is some "Americans sell better in the USA" |
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Actually, I think they left it set in England but made the main character American.
Oh, so it's like Kevin Costner in that Robin Hood movie? |
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Furiously
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Actually, I think they left it set in England but made the main character American.
Oh, so it's like Kevin Costner in that Robin Hood movie? I think it's more like Morgan Freeman in that Robin Hood movie. Only not acted well. |
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Re: Julia Stiles/Bourne- I realize she was in both of the previous movies. Bourne obviously recognized her when she came into the safe house ("What are you doing here?"). She then acts like there was some sort of previous meeting/connection between them during Bourne's indoctrination/training/previous career ("You really don't remember, do you?"), which led me to believe that there would be some sort of follow up flashback explaining wtf she meant.
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bhodi
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Re: The dark is rising. I feel like that movie shat on the favorite books of my childhood and thus on me. I still have those books. Damn them. I knew it was going to be awful the instant I heard the narrator and saw the stupid fucking 'normal USA kid' backdrop.
It would be sweet to check out Oldway lane and see if it matches what's in my head.
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Simond
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Heh, when I first read TDIR (when I was about ten or so) I somehow completely missed that it was set in (effectively) my back garden. I reread it a few weeks ago, and had a delayed drop "hang on a sec...." moment. :)
Oh, and Oldway Lane nowadays probably wouldn't match your imagination, but I can totally picture what it would have been like at the time the novel was (roughly) set. The author was born & grew up in a nearby village, so she was working from her own memories, I suppose.
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kaid
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I can deal with shaky cam fight scenes if I have to but damn the bourn ultimatum made every scene that was not a long pan shot shaky. When there are two people talking face to face there is no need to be shaking the camera people sigh.
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Venkman
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I saw that preview (Dark is Rising) during the Harry Potter previews, and thought it just looked like timely iteration with an unfortunate name (and that Stardust looked better). Didn't know about the book series. Were the books any good, as in something to stand the test of time? No shit. This movie is going to suck. First of all, its set in the wrong fucking county. The danged series is loosely based on Arthurian legends, so how the heck is it going to be set in the USA? Its particularly obscene to me primarily because with such a bad movie, kids won't be inclined to read the series. Is it bad because they changed the setting or other reasons? Like, does the setting really have that much to do with the quality? I don't know at all not having read the books. |
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Engels
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I saw that preview (Dark is Rising) during the Harry Potter previews, and thought it just looked like timely iteration with an unfortunate name (and that Stardust looked better). Didn't know about the book series. Were the books any good, as in something to stand the test of time?
Yes, but don't take my word for it. The book was written in the 1970s, and they're making a movie about it now. Is it bad because they changed the setting or other reasons? Like, does the setting really have that much to do with the quality? I don't know at all not having read the books.
Its bad because the whole tone is off. Its meant to be a dark, somber tale with mounting tension and mystical ventures into a supernatural realm that's ill defined and all the more threatening for it. This film, as you so accurately noticed, seems like a Harry Potter knock off. |
I should get back to nature, too. You know, like going to a shop for groceries instead of the computer. Maybe a condo in the woods that doesn't even have a health club or restaurant attached. Buy a car with only two cup holders or something. -Signe
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DraconianOne
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Oh, and Oldway Lane nowadays probably wouldn't match your imagination, but I can totally picture what it would have been like at the time the novel was (roughly) set. The author was born & grew up in a nearby village, so she was working from her own memories, I suppose.
Isn't it near the grand metropolis of Slough? |
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I was subjected to Daddy Day Camp at work a couple nights back, and tonight I had to watch Becoming Jane. I've really got nothing to say about either, but I figured I'd mention it.  |
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Ironwood
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You mean Daddy Day Care ?
The Murphy Vehicle ?
It didn't suck - delivered what you expected.
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Velorath
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You mean Daddy Day Care ?
The Murphy Vehicle ?
It didn't suck - delivered what you expected.
No, I mean Daddy Day Camp. The newly released in theaters sequel to Daddy Day Care, with Cuba Gooding Jr. taking over Murphy's part. |
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Riggswolfe
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[No, I mean Daddy Day Camp. The newly released in theaters sequel to Daddy Day Care, with Cuba Gooding Jr. taking over Murphy's part.
Ok, first, WTH happened to Cuba Gooding's career? Second, I saw Stardust at a preview Tuesday and it was awesome. Robert DeNiro and Michelle "I may be 50 but I'm still hot" Pfeiffer were awesome. Claire Danes was good too. I haven't read the book so can't tell you how close it was though I plan to pick the book up now. |
"We live in a country, where John Lennon takes six bullets in the chest, Yoko Ono was standing right next to him and not one fucking bullet! Explain that to me! Explain that to me, God! Explain it to me, God!" - Denis Leary summing up my feelings about the nature of the universe.
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Riggswolfe
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I can deal with shaky cam fight scenes if I have to but damn the bourn ultimatum made every scene that was not a long pan shot shaky. When there are two people talking face to face there is no need to be shaking the camera people sigh.
You know how Schild loves to rant about gaming journalism and how they're all sellouts and shills etc? Everytime I read a good review of the Bourne Ultimatum by a professional reviewer I do the same to my friends. |
"We live in a country, where John Lennon takes six bullets in the chest, Yoko Ono was standing right next to him and not one fucking bullet! Explain that to me! Explain that to me, God! Explain it to me, God!" - Denis Leary summing up my feelings about the nature of the universe.
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Venkman
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[No, I mean Daddy Day Camp. The newly released in theaters sequel to Daddy Day Care, with Cuba Gooding Jr. taking over Murphy's part.
Ok, first, WTH happened to Cuba Gooding's career? Second, I saw Stardust at a preview Tuesday and it was awesome. Robert DeNiro and Michelle "I may be 50 but I'm still hot" Pfeiffer were awesome. Claire Danes was good too. I haven't read the book so can't tell you how close it was though I plan to pick the book up now. That's good enough for me. Every preview I've seen had me intrigued, but it could have gone so many ways. Glad to hear it is worth seeing. |
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Ironwood
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You mean Daddy Day Care ?
The Murphy Vehicle ?
It didn't suck - delivered what you expected.
No, I mean Daddy Day Camp. The newly released in theaters sequel to Daddy Day Care, with Cuba Gooding Jr. taking over Murphy's part. Oh. Right. Sorry, I'm clearly behind. |
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DraconianOne
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[Second, I saw Stardust at a preview Tuesday and it was awesome. Robert DeNiro and Michelle "I may be 50 but I'm still hot" Pfeiffer were awesome. Claire Danes was good too. I haven't read the book so can't tell you how close it was though I plan to pick the book up now.
Neil Gaiman seems pleased with it. All I can say is that very little in the trailer reminds me of anything in the book although that might be more likely to me forgetting what was in the book. On a side note, parts of it were shot in the woods behind my house. As, coincedentally, were some of the opening scenes from Harry Potter IV. My village is always being used as a film set. |
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DraconianOne
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You know how Schild loves to rant about gaming journalism and how they're all sellouts and shills etc? Everytime I read a good review of the Bourne Ultimatum by a professional reviewer I do the same to my friends.
Did you see Bourne Supremacy? If so, what did you think? How did shaky cam in Ultimatum compare to Supremacy? Only then can I decide whether I should pay attention to what you're saying or just ignore you. :-D |
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Simond
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Oh, and Oldway Lane nowadays probably wouldn't match your imagination, but I can totally picture what it would have been like at the time the novel was (roughly) set. The author was born & grew up in a nearby village, so she was working from her own memories, I suppose.
Isn't it near the grand metropolis of Slough? Yup - Susan whatshername (the author) was born in Burnham which was a small village in South Bucks when she was born, and is now sort of a small village, sort of part of Slough. |
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Chenghiz
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You know how Schild loves to rant about gaming journalism and how they're all sellouts and shills etc? Everytime I read a good review of the Bourne Ultimatum by a professional reviewer I do the same to my friends.
Did you see Bourne Supremacy? If so, what did you think? How did shaky cam in Ultimatum compare to Supremacy? Only then can I decide whether I should pay attention to what you're saying or just ignore you. :-D It's to the point where even non-action scenes are apparently shot with a shoulder cam for no apparent reason. Don't skip the movie because of it, the movie's definitely worth seeing. It's annoying, not deal-breaking. |
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I don't remember the camera shake being nearly as bad in Ultimatum compared to I/S. Then again, I was working my way through a pitcher of beer pretty quick, so that might be a reason.
Julia Stiles - He used to wang her, I know that look, it's the "you don't remember you wanged me?" look. I wish I had amnesia to blame for situations like those.
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WayAbvPar
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I don't remember the camera shake being nearly as bad in Ultimatum compared to I/S. Then again, I was working my way through a pitcher of beer pretty quick, so that might be a reason.
Julia Stiles - He used to wang her, I know that look, it's the "you don't remember you wanged me?" look. I wish I had amnesia to blame for situations like those.
See, that is exactly the impression I got as well. But they just dropped it. |
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Ironwood
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Julia Stiles - He used to wang her, I know that look, it's the "you don't remember you wanged me?" look. I wish I had amnesia to blame for situations like those.
Yeah, I get that look a lot too. |
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DraconianOne
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Yeah, I get that look a lot too.
Me too. Normally from the wife. |
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