So. Even I'm jumping on the "job" thread bandwagon.

[schild]

Yea. F13 isn't paying the bills. In fact, it's costing me money.

So, I throw my hat in the ring. I need to find a job. Any tips for someone who isn't willing to take a job where he'll want to gouge his eyes out? So, anyone know of any companies I should look at out here? Or anyone know anyone out here who needs uhm, somebody like me? I'm not even sure what that means anymore. But you get the picture.

As for gaming jobs in the valley, go take a look at the "offerings" on Gamasutra. As for the stuff not on Gamasutra, it's pretty much limited to the Stargate SG-1 MMOG team and I've very good reason to believe they're running around like a chicken with it's head cut off. Let's just say the whole "gaming" thing isn't happening out here.

(Part of the point of posting this is that I'd like to find a job where I don't have to give up f13. The Industry doesn't provide me with that privilege)

[Yegolev]

Only thing we have is a Senior Marketing Activation Manager in Phoenix.  Maybe you could be a bouncer at a strip club?

[Murgos]

There is always porn.

Uh, I mean, amortize your web management skills into an alternate parallel field...

[Signe]

You should be one of those guys who win money riding skateboards, like Tony Hawk.  He's pretty cool.

[Sky]

I hear SOE needs a CCO ;)

I recommend unloading trucks for walmart for a few years. Builds character.

Or, you know, Iraq.

[shiznitz]

If this board software can do Paypal subscriptions, I would sign up for $5 a month. I do it for my guild website and I spend just as much time here. This site is almost as entertaining as a $15/month MMOg.

[schild]

I'd actually thought about the $5 a month thing for a while, but I'm not entirely sure it's reasonable. There's too many places you can go and talk about the same shit for free. What's to stop anyone from just doing that?

[Llava]

I'd actually thought about the $5 a month thing for a while, but I'm not entirely sure it's reasonable. There's too many places you can go and talk about the same shit for free. What's to stop anyone from just doing that?

Cause we're better at it.

Seriously, though, I agree. I don't think a fee would fly.  Existing members may be willing to do it, but getting new members would be... <points at SWG>

[Nebu]

You should be one of those guys who win money riding skateboards, like Tony Hawk.  He's pretty cool.

 

You always make me laugh. 

[schild]

I'd actually thought about the $5 a month thing for a while, but I'm not entirely sure it's reasonable. There's too many places you can go and talk about the same shit for free. What's to stop anyone from just doing that?

Cause we're better at it.

Seriously, though, I agree. I don't think a fee would fly. Existing members may be willing to do it, but getting new members would be... <points at SWG>

The NTE wasn't the greatest update in the world. It was just a tribute.

[shiznitz]

I'd actually thought about the $5 a month thing for a while, but I'm not entirely sure it's reasonable. There's too many places you can go and talk about the same shit for free. What's to stop anyone from just doing that?

Make it voluntary. I bet you get at least 20 takers. I never intended to propose a mandatory payment to read this site. My guild site is voluntary and some of us are happy to help defray hosting costs.

[Lt.Dan]

The NTE wasn't the greatest update in the world. It was just a tribute.

With twitch  

Having just been through a job hunt, the best way to do it is to call on everyone you know.  That includes places where you swore you'd never work at again; sometimes things/people do change.  No, really.

[schild]

Just for some rundown, aside from any writing experience, I spent my high school and college years in retail. Just under a decade of retail to be exact. I'm not sure I can go back to that, and that's why I posted here, thinking maybe someone knew of a good company out here that was worth looking into.

Edit: Aside from Google, Intel, and Microchip - I know I'm not qualified for that shit.

[Llava]

I don't have specific leads, but here's a site I keep an eye on.  You may find that you're qualified to do a number of these things.

http://www.ad2phoenix.com/job_bank/index.php

You won't find a "professional blowjob receiver" posting on there any time soon, but for the most part they're decent jobs to do for a while to pay the bills.

[Sky]

Walmart.

Resistance is futile.

Hell, get into the supply development divisions and travel asia, you could collect all kinds of gaming stuff you're into.

[Merusk]

So, uh.. what's your degree in?

The builder market in Phoenix is hiring like mad.  Cad support and office work, obviously, since you're nowhere near as cheap as illegal labor.  (What? Noo of course they're all legal.. that's not a dirty little seceret everyone turns a blind eye to that I just blurted out.)  I'd be out there myself if it didn't mean relocating closer to my wife's fucking-crazy-as-hell father and stepmother and away from the family support network I've got here.

  Well, that, and the whole, "so if all these people are moving to the desert, where's the water coming from?" problem I keep hearing about.

[Yegolev]

We do have lots of openings but I assumed you wanted to stay in AZ.  We only have one opening in AZ.  If you want to be a commercial painter, I can get you a job at my wife's company... but you'll have to move.

[Llava]

  Well, that, and the whole, "so if all these people are moving to the desert, where's the water coming from?" problem I keep hearing about.

California and Nevada.

[Hoax]

I think you should go with Blackwater Security or whatever that company's name is.  You go out to their HQ in Virginia train for a few months and then you get phat loot working in Iraq protecting contractors or something.  You just have to avoid getting beheaded or hung from a bridge after being shot a few times.

[Signe]

So, uh.. what's your degree in?

He probably has a degree in Art History from Bryn Mawr University.  I mean, he's obviously a lesbian.

[schild]

Actually, Hoax and Signe managed to get it right between them.

I'm a lesbian mercenary. Highly trained in the ancient art of Cunt-Fu.

[Fabricated]

Actually, Hoax and Signe managed to get it right between them.

I'm a lesbian mercenary. Highly trained in the ancient art of Cunt-Fu.

The whole snatching the pebble from the hand of the master thing suddenly became a lot ickier in my mind.

[WindupAtheist]

I'll pay you to alternate between playing UO and watching infinite repititions of Phantom Menace for 12 hours per day.  You'll get one dollar for each authentic "Yipee!" you can work up.

[Lantyssa]

That's at least $1 every time TPM ends.  I recommend getting ahold of The Phantom Edit if you have any urge to survive more than a few one viewing though.

[Big Gulp]

I spent my high school and college years in retail. Just under a decade of retail to be exact. I'm not sure I can go back to that

Sounds like you're being awfully fussy for someone with no qualifications.  Open a paper, look for trades work.  Painting, framing, roofing, etc.  Maybe there's a machine shop in your area willing to take on a newbie.

If those choices sound too physical, and you apparently can't go back to retail then I'd say your motivation to work isn't sufficiently developed.

[Signe]

You could wear a tool belt!  Hubba Hubba!!

[Furiously]

Don't knock the tool belt. Ever heard of a roofer being asked where his cover page was on his TPS report?

Don't have near the number of dickhead bosses you have in the corporate world. Then again, being a roofer until you are 60 is hard work.

[Trippy]

Yea. F13 isn't paying the bills. In fact, it's costing me money.

How much is it costing you a month? Good Virtual Private Server setups are pretty cheap these days (shared hosting is teh suck). You can get something to support the site minus the game server and maybe the large file downloads (dunno how much bandwidth you are sucking up) for $20 - $30 a month. A donation button is a good idea as well (I agree mandatory subscriptions would drive away too many people). Or setup an Amazon affiliate account and link your weekly game releases to Amazon. Heck I'd even vote in favor of AdSense text ads on the forums if that's what it took to keep this place running.

[Murgos]

Did you actually get a degree?  If so...

http://www.usajobs.opm.gov/

Start applying.

edit:  I'm serious, it's probably one of your best chances to get something not mediocre.  They usually don't care too much what your degree is in, just that you have one.

[schild]

edit: I'm serious, it's probably one of your best chances to get something not mediocre. They usually don't care too much what your degree is in, just that you have one.

I actually look at USAjobs fairly often. Right now there are a grand total of 35 positions available in Phoenix, I'm fairly sure I'm not qualified to be a special agent or optometrist or Auditor. Apparently the government does not like the desert. EXCEPT FOR HIDING ALIENS.

[Viin]

Maybe one of those 'alien playmate' positions will open up.

Along the lines of donation .. if you could ever secure some of those closed beta spots you could raffle them away with donations of $10 or more (or something). If they'd even let you do something like that.

I know a lot of sites offer something a little extra for donations (for example, wallpaper or screensavers) so something like that would be incentive to donate every month.

..

As for a job. It's hard. Your best bet would be to get in at an entry level position at a company doing stuff you like, even if you aren't involved in that stuff yet. It's much easier to prove yourself once you are in the door than to reach for the sun and get burned.

[voodoolily]

Desert, eh? Why don't you start building pyramids? Oh, right, that doesn't pay very well, and then you hafta wander for 40 years.

So you don't like my suggestion to work as a line cook? I tell you, your appearance is intimidating. You'd be great. I think the suggestion to be a bouncer at a titty bar is a fantastic one. Particularly since your standards are so high, you won't be tempted by the candy. Or you could be a butcher's apprentice. I see you in blood and knives. Not sure why, but the image sticks.

We need an IT person, but I think it's only here in Portland.

[Strazos]

So you don't like my suggestion to work as a line cook? I tell you, your appearance is intimidating. You'd be great. I think the suggestion to be a bouncer at a titty bar is a fantastic one. Particularly since your standards are so high, you won't be tempted by the candy. Or you could be a butcher's apprentice. I see you in blood and knives. Not sure why, but the image sticks.

lollerskates

Suggestion: Can you drive, well? Get a job driving...whatever, around. Art degree? There has to be Something you can do with it, like teach an art class a couple times a week somewhere. How about entry-level noobler IT-type stuff?

[Abagadro]

I spent my high school and college years in retail. Just under a decade of retail to be exact. I'm not sure I can go back to that

Sounds like you're being awfully fussy for someone with no qualifications.  Open a paper, look for trades work.  Painting, framing, roofing, etc.  Maybe there's a machine shop in your area willing to take on a newbie.

If those choices sound too physical, and you apparently can't go back to retail then I'd say your motivation to work isn't sufficiently developed.

Who the hell let my mom into the thread?

[Hanzii]

You like Alias, right?
Didn't she do a reqcruiting add for the CIA? Join the CIA, that's pretty cool. You could be the next Jack Ryan watching anime in your dark cellar office where you're supposed to be analyzing stuff and winning the war on terror...


But seriously, why won't you move? You're young - I haven't stayed in the same city for five years total yet. If there's something you really want to do (the game industry or whatever you majored in) then you normally have to move after it.