Zombies Zombies Zombies

[schild]

Didn't even notice.

[Velorath]

Who cares about technicalities. WoW isn't a fucking horror zombie game. It's a Warhammer ripoff with more fantasy trappings thrown on. The discussion never should've even gotten to the fact there is an "undead" race in the game. Right now I'm holding out for Capcom to announce an online Survival Horror game. Simply because I don't think anyone else CAN do it. They may have the balls to do it, but they won't be able to correctly. Capcom....MIGHT be able to.

Having played the RE: Outbreak games I'd rather not see them try.

[schild]

ERrrr, all I wanted from Outbreak was the existance of campaigns instead of a half-ass realized shitturd of a neverending world we've seen with every other mmog.

[sinij]

Zombie mmog is already out - its called WoW. Oh you are talking about NPCs...

And that's a good example- do people playing the Undead in WoW really feel like zombies? 

I was more referring to quality of experience and general predispositions of player base of WoW rather than actual fact that you can play undead race.


Still how would you make players *feel* like zombies? Ask them to camp human spawn for hours at a time or make them form 40+ zombie raid group just to take on few human strugglers?

[Samwise]

Still how would you make players *feel* like zombies? Ask them to camp human spawn for hours at a time or make them form 40+ zombie raid group just to take on few human strugglers?

Go play Urban Dead for a week.  Seriously.

[Venkman]

WoW Undead are Humans with cannibalize. There some immersive elements, particularly pertaining to sound. But otherwise, the world looked like what it was: Undead settling previously-human towns. The game play itself, like so much of the game, was otherwise largely the same.

It doesn't piss me off that Blizzard didn't do good Zombies though because I simply wasn't expecting true deviation from norm. Just like the game in totality actually.

[Signe]

Someone is going to make a Zombie Game!   I don't know who they are or why they'd want to do it though.

DEN ME!!!!

Dammit.

[Dren]

WoW Undead are Humans with cannibalize. There some immersive elements, particularly pertaining to sound. But otherwise, the world looked like what it was: Undead settling previously-human towns. The game play itself, like so much of the game, was otherwise largely the same.

It doesn't piss me off that Blizzard didn't do good Zombies though because I simply wasn't expecting true deviation from norm. Just like the game in totality actually.

It might have been interesting if they made it impossible to "heal" the undead unless they ate alliance people or by some other arcane method that involved the essence of alliance people. (Undead priests create healing spells from essences they obtained from fallen foes, potions made from living essence, limbs kept in your pack for eating later, etc.)  Obviously this would only work on a pure PvP server.  The "forced" PvP would be something fairly new I'd think.

[UnSub]

Someone else can ponder the irony of necroing a thread about a zombie game.

Never gonna happen. Web page too unprofessional and we're enterting the vaporzone with how long it is before release. Just write it off.

Edit: The game premise could happen. But not by these guys. And not any time soon.

Exanimus development officially suspended

AFAIK, it was suspended without ever releasing any actual in-game shots, or with much information released on how gameplay would actually work.

[NiX]

The greater irony is that you necro'd a zombie thread to tell us how the project is dead.

[schild]

The greater irony is that you necro'd a zombie thread to tell us how the project is dead.

Weird, because I thought he necro'd it to say how fucking awesome I am.

[NiX]

One and the same, aren't they?

[Samwise]

How do you have one thing in the same thing as itself?

[Triforcer]

the proper expression is one AND the same.  Don't attract the grammar snake.

[DraconianOne]

Ironic also that this gets Necro'd shortly after WoW had it's Zombie invasion too when players could play actual zombies and not just the "undead" race.

[apocrypha]

Ironic also that this gets Necro'd shortly after WoW had it's Zombie invasion too when players could play actual zombies and not just the "undead" race.

Wake up and smell the coffee. It's not ironic, it's a conspiracy!

I await Oliver Stone's "Lazarus" in 2016 with anticipation.

[Xanthippe]

/necro

Still looking for a good zombie mmo.  Why has no one made this yet?

Closest ones I've found are browser games.  Urban Dead is ok but uncompelling - it was probably a great deal more fun when it was new.  These two are relatively newish:

http://www.die2nite.com/
(thread here)

and

http://www.zombiepandemic.com/

Zombie Pandemic is also on Facebook but essentially the same game, other than being even slower due to having to go through all the Facebook stuff.  I tried it both ways.  Facebook didn't seem to add anything whatsoever, so if you're interested in playing, I recommend the web version above.

Both are interesting but so very limited.  I want an unlimited zombie mmo that I can play whenever for however long I want.  Graphics are not necessary.

[Shatter]

I can already here the bitching about the slow movement speed....

[Margalis]

Xanthippe, what specifically are you looking for in a little more detail?

If you don't mind.

[Xanthippe]

What I would like to see is a persistent world with (at least) 2 sides, zombies and humans, where a player could play either side.  Exploration, salvaging(loot!), building(crafting!), training(leveling!) would all be required parts to the game.  Beyond that, and then we're into describing my game nirvana.

Persistent meaning that I could play as long as I want to, rather than have a limited number of moves per day.   Some days I wouldn't play at all, other days I might want to play hours - like any other game.  The games I listed above, for example, are all based upon limited playtime, like Facebook games.  You can play for a little bit, then you have to wait until your energy replenishes before you can do anything again.  They all do have those 4 features listed above, though. I particularly like Zombie Pandemic and am tempted to toss them some cash so I can play more.

[Samwise]

I assume you've already checked out Urban Dead.  It is AP-based, so it might not be for you.  Also, no crafting.

My perfect zombie game would be Urban Dead plus crafting/building plus perma[un]death.  So, sort of a cross between Urban Dead, Nexus War, and Die2Nite.   

[Xanthippe]

Urban Dead has a steeper learning curve than Die2Nite or Zombie Pandemic.

I'm a zombie (right now I'm a dead zombie).  I thought I logged out in a safe place but either I didn't or it became a nonsafe place or something.  Anyway, I don't want to be a zombie so I'm looking for a place to become a human again. Wandering around doesn't seem to be very satisfying (especially given that I only have 50AP). I guess I'm having a rough start and wanted a little more handholding at the beginning.

[Furiously]

Look for one of the clans. Joining up will help immensely. Of course, 1/4 of the players will be zombie spies.

[CharlieMopps]

Not an MMO but Zombie Panic (free on steam) is a blast.

[Samwise]

Look for one of the clans. Joining up will help immensely. Of course, 1/4 of the players will be zombie spies.

See, I never understood the point of playing UD "competitively".  Clans, "zombie spies", all that serious business.  It costs less AP to bring someone back to life than it does to kill them.  It's a perpetual stalemate, which is why I eventually got bored of it and started dreaming of a game without Necrotech syringes. 

[Shatter]

I play this game every day only I call it work

[Xanthippe]

I've been playing Urban Dead for maybe a week.  

Spent the first day exploring.  Couldn't find a proper place to hole up and got killed by zombies.  

Spent the next couple of days trying to find a place where I could be revived.  Found one, spent 3 days there before someone revived me.

Have spent the last two days trying to find a mall, since I'm a consumer.  Finally found one.  Searched every store.  Found nothing.  

In fact, I've spent some time searching since I started in this game and found nothing ever.
 
I have 0 experience, have found nothing after a week.

This is why I bet this game was more fun when it was new than it is now.

Zombie Pandemic, on the other hand, is similar, but I've actually performed missions, found loot, killed zombies, trained skills, and am now better at all of those things after playing for about a week.

[Samwise]

In Zombie Pandemic, are the zombies players or NPCs?  I really like Urban Dead's pure PvP nature, and the fact that when someone "dies" they theoretically join the other "team".  (Although I always felt like I was in the minority among UD's playerbase in that respect.)

[Xanthippe]

In Zombie Pandemic, are the zombies players or NPCs?  I really like Urban Dead's pure PvP nature, and the fact that when someone "dies" they theoretically join the other "team".  (Although I always felt like I was in the minority among UD's playerbase in that respect.)

Alas, the zombies are npcs. 

How is a newbie supposed to advance in Urban Dead starting out now?

[Yegolev]

Something to try: play Fallen Earth; to play as human, use run, to play as zombie, turn off run.

[Samwise]

In Zombie Pandemic, are the zombies players or NPCs?  I really like Urban Dead's pure PvP nature, and the fact that when someone "dies" they theoretically join the other "team".  (Although I always felt like I was in the minority among UD's playerbase in that respect.)

Alas, the zombies are npcs. 

How is a newbie supposed to advance in Urban Dead starting out now?

I don't think advancement is any different than it's always been. 

If you're alive, the quickest way is finding first aid kits.  Go to a hospital (or a mall if you have the "shopping" skill) and search for 'em.  Use them on people (or zombies) who are hurt.  Getting the Diagnosis skill makes this easier, but until you have that you can just try healing everything you see.

If you're alive and you have shooting skills and/or a gun, shooting zombies may be faster, since it's easier to find zombies to shoot than it is to find people to heal.  Stock up on ammo in police stations (or malls); you'll find plenty of things to use it on.

If you're dead, advancement is slow but steady.  If you see people, eat them.  If you don't see people because they're all hiding behind barricades, smash the barricades.  Either of these activities gets you XP.

[FatuousTwat]

Fastest way to level up is go zombie, get a few of the zombie skills (like the ones that increase your hit chance and the one that halves your movement ap use), then accumulate xp until you have a bunch, and then get revived and spend all your xp on human skills.

[Zaljerem]

I've been enjoying the hell out of Die2Nite .... Urban Dead not so much.

Just pulled down Zombie Panic Source, maybe I'll check it out tonight.

[Samwise]

Fastest way to level up is go zombie, get a few of the zombie skills (like the ones that increase your hit chance and the one that halves your movement ap use), then accumulate xp until you have a bunch, and then get revived and spend all your xp on human skills.

When I last played (and this was some time ago), I found that the absolute fastest way to level as a zombie was to start as a survivor with Free Running, load up on first aid kits in hospitals, and then run around healing people for 10XP a pop or whatever.  Buy Diagnosis first because it makes it faster to find people who need healing, and then just start banking XP.  (Do not buy First Aid; it doubles the healing effectiveness but not the XP gain, so it actually slows your XP because you run out of healing targets faster.)  You'll get enough to max out all the zombie skills in about a third of the time it would take you staggering around as a zombie.

Leveling by staggering around as a zombie and eating brains is more FUN, mind you, but it's not a fast path to advancement.